10 cents per page is pretty cheap! You'd be hard pressed to beat that using a personal printer, and there really are heaps of printers available on the campus/in the halls.
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Nimbus2000
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Okay, awesome... but I've heard that the library gets pretty busy with the course reserve books... is this true? and how easy is it to access these books at any given time in the year? (I'm not staying at one of the halls
)I never had an issue accessing the books when I needed to. Never tried around exams though, but I can't imagine it'd be that bad. You can only get them out for 2 hours at a time and I think there's a way of booking them in advance for a particular time.
There are 5 modules for chem191. Just make sure you know what you're learning each lecture because sometimes the lectures are vague as to what you actually need to know.
The labs are loosely based on the lecture content, in the sense that while you're learning redox, you have a redox lab etc. The person leading the lab usually will explain all you need to know for the lab, and of course for the exit tests. It also depends on when you're streamed into a lab. ie, if you're on the first Monday of the 2-week rotation, you may not have covered the lecture content, but it's nothing that a little pre-reading can't fix.
As to the course reserve books, they're amazing! Learn to book them. I didn't find out until the end of the year, but you can go on to the library catalogue, look up the book, click 'make a request' down the side, log-in, and then you should get an option to 'reserve booking'. Incredibly useful for exam period I would imagine.
bobby190
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If your printing slides definitely buy a printer. Dont buy it until your sure this will be the way you do it.
If you do the calculations of 5 pages per lecture and 40 lectures per paper then thats 20 bucks per paper. Exclude physics (cos you can buy a printed book all slides included seperately) so 6 papers is $120 (more if you include an 8th paper). A new Brother laser black (including catridge) and white printer is exactly that much. You can print from the comfort of your own room at all kinda hours and dont have to be reliant on hall printers and mainly you can use it in the coming years in your flat paying only for the catridge.
At most its going to cost you the same amount and still have your own printer and its handy to reprint annoyingly small diagrams full size without hesitation not to mention other random stuff you might want to print.
Um, what about the price of paper/cartridges? That's where printers really cost you. I just went onto consumer.org.nz and the cheapest brother printer in their report (which retails for $150) costs 12 cents per B&W page in running costs on top of the cost of buying the printer.
Buy a printer if you like the convenience. Don't buy one to save money.
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bobby190
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I got mine on sale for $105 at warehouse stationary. It includes catridge that officially says 1000 pages, but I used well over 2 reams of paper (500 pages/ream) to finish it off (economy mode ofcourse). If you look at brothers figures it is 1000 pages then its 10.5 cents per page but in practice for me it worked out cheaper and you might pay for convenience aswell.
The most economic catridge was $120ish for 2400 pages (according to brother), which I have used it for all of 3rd year and a bit of 2nd year aswell and here you will make up any money if you have lost. Official page numbers means 5 cents per page, I have not run out yet but if I had to guess
In the long run it will work out cheaper for sure.
OR student styles Cartridge World New Zealand - Brother
$15 bucks to refill!
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Brother printer not on sale $129 from office max. If you show this to people at bond & bond they will beat it. Id recommend just waiting for sale.
Paper the cost tbh is negligble, you can get expensive stuff but I get the cheap impact paper from warehouse stationary.
The most economic catridge was $120ish for 2400 pages (according to brother), which I have used it for all of 3rd year and a bit of 2nd year aswell and here you will make up any money if you have lost. Official page numbers means 5 cents per page, I have not run out yet but if I had to guess
In the long run it will work out cheaper for sure.
OR student styles Cartridge World New Zealand - Brother
$15 bucks to refill!
Brother HL-2140 - Laser printer - Find the lowest price, product reviews and information
Brother printer not on sale $129 from office max. If you show this to people at bond & bond they will beat it. Id recommend just waiting for sale.
Paper the cost tbh is negligble, you can get expensive stuff but I get the cheap impact paper from warehouse stationary.
What GG said re printer. Buy one if you absolutely hate using the hall/library printers, or if you don't have access to one. Don't buy one to save money.
I've got a cheap Brother laser printer, because I lived at home >2km away from the nearest library printer, but I always did my organizing of stuff and printing at home. It costed something like $130 to buy, came with a 700-page starter toner cartridge, lasted me less than half a semester (slides and printout of my typed-up lecture notes to study with) and it cost $75 to get a 1000-page cartridge - and that's by getting the cheapest one after 2 hours of looking on the internet.
Bought quality printing paper on discount $30 for 5 x 500 sheets (and you'll be amazed at the difference in '80gsm' A4 paper depending on what brand you go with! At least the library has good paper, meaning your lecture slides won't curl themselves up or behave like a paper towel when touched), add on the toner and it costs just short of 9 cents per page (that's assuming the toner actually lasts 1000 pages - I have my doubts), ON TOP of buying the actual printer.
And don't tell me that 9 cents vs 10 cents will enable you to break even at 13000 pages - at 12000 pages the Drum Unit will wear out and costs ~$140 to replace. That, in the long term, does mean that it costs the same as library printing.
Did I even mention once you go flatting, you'll also have to consider (in the long term - if we're gonna start talking about tens of thousands of pages we have to look at it long term) the power bill associated with running your printer?
Moral of the story: buy a printer only if you've tried the library and hall printers, and find it so intolerable that you're willing to spend more money to get a personal printer.
I've got a cheap Brother laser printer, because I lived at home >2km away from the nearest library printer, but I always did my organizing of stuff and printing at home. It costed something like $130 to buy, came with a 700-page starter toner cartridge, lasted me less than half a semester (slides and printout of my typed-up lecture notes to study with) and it cost $75 to get a 1000-page cartridge - and that's by getting the cheapest one after 2 hours of looking on the internet.
Bought quality printing paper on discount $30 for 5 x 500 sheets (and you'll be amazed at the difference in '80gsm' A4 paper depending on what brand you go with! At least the library has good paper, meaning your lecture slides won't curl themselves up or behave like a paper towel when touched), add on the toner and it costs just short of 9 cents per page (that's assuming the toner actually lasts 1000 pages - I have my doubts), ON TOP of buying the actual printer.
And don't tell me that 9 cents vs 10 cents will enable you to break even at 13000 pages - at 12000 pages the Drum Unit will wear out and costs ~$140 to replace. That, in the long term, does mean that it costs the same as library printing.
Did I even mention once you go flatting, you'll also have to consider (in the long term - if we're gonna start talking about tens of thousands of pages we have to look at it long term) the power bill associated with running your printer?
Moral of the story: buy a printer only if you've tried the library and hall printers, and find it so intolerable that you're willing to spend more money to get a personal printer.
I have a printer myself and I'm glad I do, but I don't use it much - personally I still use uni printing where I can (due to the price).
[MENTION=8492]bobby190[/MENTION] is onto something in that it's possible to get below 10c a page with your own printer (potentially by a reasonable amount), but you have to do a lot of research before buying a printer to achieve that. On top of that, to save money in the long-term you're committing to doing a lot of regular printing over a period of 2-3 years, and at the end of the day you might only save around $50 over that period.
Also worth mentioning that the inconvenience of not having a printer isn't that bad - this year I live an 8 minute walk away from a uni printer and that's the most inconvenient it's ever been for me. (The last 3 years I've either been in a hall that has 2 printers or flatted 5 minutes walk from a library).
[MENTION=8492]bobby190[/MENTION] is onto something in that it's possible to get below 10c a page with your own printer (potentially by a reasonable amount), but you have to do a lot of research before buying a printer to achieve that. On top of that, to save money in the long-term you're committing to doing a lot of regular printing over a period of 2-3 years, and at the end of the day you might only save around $50 over that period.
Also worth mentioning that the inconvenience of not having a printer isn't that bad - this year I live an 8 minute walk away from a uni printer and that's the most inconvenient it's ever been for me. (The last 3 years I've either been in a hall that has 2 printers or flatted 5 minutes walk from a library).
baba
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What are course reserve books?
Nimbus2000
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hey baba, they are books that are specific to each course (so the prescribed textbooks for each course) that are at the library. You can't borrow these books, and you have to use them at the library, and you can only use them for 2 hours at a time. mods, correct me if I'm wrong.
They're textbooks on your list, except the library keeps like 10 copies of them at the front desk and you can only borrow them for 2 hours at a time (not to mention book them in advance). They're a great way to access the textbooks without buying them.Thanks D.N
So they're just the textbooks on your book list? I thought they were something special cus of Bamboozle's praises for em
PS: You can praise a really convenient service, you know
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Profiterole
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Module = unit of learning. Kind of like an achievement standard for NCEA.
Nimbus2000
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heya guys, i was abt to post a completely new thread... but it seemed inappropriate.. and plus I had no idea where to put it... I have a question - at Dunedin Library (as in the public one, on moray place)... do we have to "rent" out the books... i saw different fees for weekly/fortnightly... i had a brief browse around, but there was no other mention of borrowing books for free (yes i'm a cheapo )
sorry, if its a dumb question... i'm a little baffled by the concept of renting books at a library?
) sorry, if its a dumb question... i'm a little baffled by the concept of renting books at a library?
heya guys, i was abt to post a completely new thread... but it seemed inappropriate.. and plus I had no idea where to put it... I have a question - at Dunedin Library (as in the public one, on moray place)... do we have to "rent" out the books... i saw different fees for weekly/fortnightly... i had a brief browse around, but there was no other mention of borrowing books for free (yes i'm a cheapo
sorry, if its a dumb question... i'm a little baffled by the concept of renting books at a library?
You can borrow books for free of course!! The ones that have fees on them are the books that are brand new, CD's, DVD's, magazines etc. Your average novel/non-fiction books are free to borrow, as long as you have a library card - you should be able to get one if you can confirm your Dunedin address (with a bank statement or something of that nature)
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