Otago HSFY chat - archive

[Wongtong]

hmm got under 1% seems legit

what if it was

Edit: I do not recall writing this

But yay, epi marks!

 

[Sam]

what if it was

Edit: I do not recall writing this

But yay, epi marks!

Girls can be so cruel.

 

[Kpin]

Hi, does anyone know how much med places are available for undergrads who are not rural or mapas at otago?
thanks

 

[Cathay]

Hi, does anyone know how much med places are available for undergrads who are not rural or mapas at otago?
thanks

It fluctuates year to year depending on those two sub-categories as well as the grad numbers, I'm under the impression that it's around about 150.

 

[Scotty1]

Then how many are there usually available for MAPAS or rural entry? 20 of each, makes 190, which sounds familiar? Thanks

 

[Bluerock]

Then how many are there usually available for MAPAS or rural entry? 20 of each, makes 190, which sounds familiar? Thanks

Across all three admission types there are 50 spots for Rural entry. The amount from each admission scheme varies from year to year.

 

[Cathay]

Then how many are there usually available for MAPAS or rural entry? 20 of each, makes 190, which sounds familiar? Thanks

I don't know what the caps of those categories are, if there are indeed caps (the Maori subcategory is the subject of much rumours in this regard), but I assumed there's just 20-25 of each to get to the figure of 150 - we know for a fact that the current med2 class has 264 domestic students and 75% of them are health scis (source: med2 orientation lecture 2012), meaning there's just under 200.

In other words, don't bother trying to calculate the health sci total from the number I gave you - I calculated that number from the actual total.

Across all three admission types there are 50 spots for Rural entry. The amount from each admission scheme varies from year to year.

His previous post suggests that he's looking at health sci only.

 

[greenglacier]

The number of Maori/PI/rural students tends to vary quite a bit by class, which makes me pretty sure that there's no "set number" of spots for each. (The reasons why the number varies are probably quite complex)

 

[Kpin]

Are the ratio of students doing biomed/health science to available med places roughly the same at otago and auckland? thanks.

 

[greenglacier]

Are the ratio of students doing biomed/health science to available med places roughly the same at otago and auckland? thanks.

That doesn't really matter. Otago has a lower entry requirement so has a lot more students who from the start have no chance of making med anyway. The ability of the competition is what matters rather than the number of competitors.

 

[Cathay]

Are the ratio of students doing biomed/health science to available med places roughly the same at otago and auckland? thanks.

As per gg, this is not a lottery of "x people from HSFY will be randomly selected into medicine", so it's not the quantity that matters, it's the quality. At the moment, roughly everyone who passed NCEA Level 3 can be guaranteed a place in HSFY, which I gather is much lower than Auckland's entry requirements. At the end of the day, as someone competing at a high level, it's not the "barely got UE" cohort that you're worried about (unless they're actually really clever kids and turned their lives around in HSFY like @frootloop ), but the "got Excellence endorsement and multiple scholarships and in this to win" cohort, which I gather makes up much of Auckland's biomed/BHSc cohorts thanks to the entry requirements.

By the way, Otago's HSFY is one single fully-prescribed course, unlike Auckland's OLY1 which has the BHSc and biomed options. Furthermore, HSFY is the compulsory first year course for anyone wanting to do medicine, dentistry, pharmacy, physiotherapy, med lab sci, and the BBiomedSc programme; as well as being a viable first year course for many of the BSc programmes, so you'll find plenty of students in HSFY who didn't want to do med in the first place, which means the ratio of HSFY to Med is basically irrelevant here.

 

[Caesar]

Heads up dudes and dudettes, I think they're putting the hubs results up now.

 

[Sam]

Heads up dudes and dudettes, I think they're putting the hubs results up now.

don't lie

 

[Caesar]

don't lie

Well the terms test 2 thing has disappeared from "my results" and this usually happens when they're putting the results up.

Also, you can't tell me what to do, you're not my real dad!

 

[Sam]

Also, you can't tell me what to do, you're not my real dad!

world's best dad.

[OFFTOPIC]lol at least i have a dad[/OFFTOPIC]

 

[Caesar]

world's best dad.

[OFFTOPIC]lol at least i have a dad[/OFFTOPIC]

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words are much more likely to do long term psychological damage.

 

[Sam]

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words are much more likely to do long term psychological damage.

That was my intent! Mwahahahahahahaahhaahahawhdhashdaskhefwfgrp5g054iooghp5094gpw

[OFFTOPIC]the above is offtopic[/OFFTOPIC]

 

[Wongtong]

HUBS is out people!

Also, keep checking MAOR marks - people are slowly getting their marks uploaded over the next few days

 

[frootloop]

Hi, does anyone know how much med places are available for undergrads who are not rural or mapas at otago?
thanks

Class size of 285.
'About a third' (source: O-week lecture I was halfway paying attention to) are graduates, so we'll say ~85 grads (to make the maths easier), so that leaves 200.
Then, you've got sort of 15-20 supergrads ('other' category), so about 185 spots for undergrads.
Now, in my class, there are 50 MAPAS students, BUT about 10 of those are grads, and the number changes year-to-year. But we'll assume 40 MAPAS students, leaving about 145 spots.
So assuming rural entry is <half the size of MAPAS entry (which is, to be fair, little more than a guess), there'd be about 15-20 of them. Leaving about 125-130 spots. (Note that some of the MAPAS/rural kids would've gotten in with or without the schemes. That said, the spots in the schemes are closed to anyone who can't apply for them, so I've subtracted them anyway).
So all in all, my guess would be 130 'general HSFY' spots (+/- 20).
Not that it really matters 'how many spots there are', all you need to know to work out your chances is the rank-score cut-off.

 

[nzmadhamster]

Gday, is there anyway of knowing whether or not you qualify for the Rural application?
I applied for it under slightly optimistic circumstances, and I was wondering if there's anyway of knowing if they've accepted it..?
Might help making the next month a little less stressful haha.
Cheers