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Otago HSFY chat - archive

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Hey all

Haven't been on mso for a week...

skyglow - I think all the points you made in your last post were fair. I don't completely agree with all of them, but I am happy to concede that if you are judging a system on how well it'll prepare a borderline student trying out for otago medicine through HSFY then cambridge would have to come out on top, and that in that sense it is better for many people. I think we can all lay this matter to rest for now, or at least until some CIE student starts mindlessly dismissing HSFY on this forum (as has unfortunately happened far too many times). On another point - interesting comment about correlating HSFY paper marks with performance in medicine. Through certain "insider knowledge" I can say that research into this is currently occuring (along with similar tests for UMAT). I'm hoping that I'll be able to see some of the results when they emerge and it might be possible that they are made publicly available which'd be pretty cool. At the least I think it's good to know that the med school does take the validity of the admissions process seriously.

SASOL - yep, I've just about finished my studentship. It's been pretty cool, though a little boring at times (but that's to be expected - if the research project was too exciting the university staff would want to do it themselves rather than leave it to a student!). Pretty sure I'm not allowed to attach any findings but I can give you the gist of it. Basically, I have data obtained on the concentration of LH in the immediate environment of gonadotrophs exposed to pulses of GnRH, with and without oxytocin or neuropeptide Y also present, as time progresses. It was obtained in a controlled in vitro laboratory setup. Anyway, there is a hypothesis that the intracellular signalling pathways involved have certain key characteristics, and that the oxytocin and neuropeptide Y interact with the pathways in certain ways. I have been working at the maths department of the university of canterbury to formulate something called a model - this is a series of equations and rules that describe the basic characteristics of a curve that would fit the data obtained if this hypothesis is true. I have written computer programs to look at the model and data and try to find optimal parameter values for accordance between the two (a parameter = a fixed number required by the model for it to deliver quantifiable outcomes), and to carry out various tests into the validity of this. Basically we are finding out things like "the model can explain the data well given the correct parameters, therefore the proposed mechanism could explain the data" and "oxytocin modifies the parameter values with statistical significance in the way expected". So yeah, kind of interesting applying maths to biomedical sciences, and a cool way of drawing conclusions from data. I have to give a presentation in one of the lecture theatres to an audience consisting of university staff, 3rd-5th year medical students, research sponsors and judges (amongst others) in a couple of weeks though so that's kind of scary. Thankfully it's only 5 minutes, and in the middle of 45 other presentations!

lock_on - they're not going to kick you out of medicine for registering late! Admissions and enrolment haven't even updated my status past "awaiting confirmation from the relevant admissions committee" yet. They'll probably just charge the late fee ($82 - a pain, but not a shattering amount).

ChickenPie - just sent you a pm
 
Is it on PIMS that it says "awaiting confirmation from the relevant admissions committee"?
 
skyglow - I think all the points you made in your last post were fair. I don't completely agree with all of them, but I am happy to concede that if you are judging a system on how well it'll prepare a borderline student trying out for otago medicine through HSFY then cambridge would have to come out on top, and that in that sense it is better for many people. I think we can all lay this matter to rest for now, or at least until some CIE student starts mindlessly dismissing HSFY on this forum (as has unfortunately happened far too many times). On another point - interesting comment about correlating HSFY paper marks with performance in medicine. Through certain "insider knowledge" I can say that research into this is currently occuring (along with similar tests for UMAT). I'm hoping that I'll be able to see some of the results when they emerge and it might be possible that they are made publicly available which'd be pretty cool. At the least I think it's good to know that the med school does take the validity of the admissions process seriously.

Yup I think we've discussed it quite a bit now haha. Would be so keen to see that data if it is ever released.

When's your guy's orientation?
 
Yeah, so we have lectures in Oweek! Annoying:bored:

Hmm my enrolment status thing doesnt say awaiting confirmation blah blah blah, Im kinda worried now cos I looked around PIMS
 
It isn't necessarily a bad thing if it doesn't say "awaiting confirmation"!

Yours is likely to behave a little differently to mine anyway - I did registration really early (like, try December 9 - make of that what you will). It updated to "awaiting confirmation" on the 14th, so it seems that all the registrations have to be considered by someone from admissions and enrolment before such an update is made. It may just be that now they are ignoring all medicine registrations until they get the class list from the admissions office and not bothering with this manual stage - i.e. yours might change to "confirmed" without going through "awaiting confirmation from admissions committee".

Oh and yeah, the medicine timing is kind of annoying. Personally what annoys me the most is that I had to turn down a performance with the southern sinfonia (read plushy job paying $30 an hour for 3 hours work every evening for a week) because I'd have to miss med orientation - which may well be about the only orientation I get... Oh, and the fact that this year of all years they decided to reduce the semester 2 mid-semester break from 2 weeks to 1 week. Meh, all pretty minor compared to the privelege of studying med though.
 
Hey guys my enrollment status now says:

Registration was submitted Online on 28 December 2009.
Registration is Complete.

Is that the same with all u guys... would I be right to feel more assured about my place in medicine now... :blink:
 
I never even noticed mid semester break was shorter! grrr. Oh well at least we will be on mid year break when most of uni people have exams. mwahahaha!

Yeah my thing says what yours does mohsin
 
(repeat post, i know, thought i should give this thread a go too)

hi guys and gals

i'm one of those rare people who got into 2nd year in 2010 through the graduate category (since my first degree had nothing to do with med i had to complete HSFY papers to a required standard in 2009, which i did).

i submitted my registration for MICN201 way back on Dec 4th.
on dec 22 i received an email confirming my place in 2nd year med with links to OUMSA registration forms and documents etc.
i then sent all the registration fees and the declaration forms etc well before the due date

Yet...now i got an email saying my online registration was cancelled even if the med faculty themselves have confirmed my place in writing ..even applied for student loan a week ago...

don't know what to make of this! pretty sure its just an administration error

will call them tomorrow but in the meanwhile has anyone else (graduate entry folks) had the same problem?

thanks
 
I wouldn't worry about it, especially since you got the confirmation email. But yeah, probably best you ring them. Sorry I can't help!

Good luck!(y)
 
I wouldn't worry about it, especially since you got the confirmation email. But yeah, probably best you ring them. Sorry I can't help!

Good luck!(y)

thanks dude :)

the confirmation email even spells it out

Dear [my name]

This email is to confirm your place in Medicine for 2010. Please see the following link for joining instructions:

PROGRAMME START DATES
All information regarding programme start dates, camps, timetables...

so should be all good

cheers
 
wait do we have mid year exams (end of sem 1)

No, but you have a practise OSPE and a practise consultation, which prepare you for the real OSPE and OSCE at the end of the year. These do not count for your final mark (pass/fail/distinction). The consequence of having all your exams at the end of the year is that you have to learn material from the whole year because anything could be examined in the SAQs and MCQs at the end of the year.
 
No, but you have a practise OSPE and a practise consultation, which prepare you for the real OSPE and OSCE at the end of the year. These do not count for your final mark (pass/fail/distinction). The consequence of having all your exams at the end of the year is that you have to learn material from the whole year because anything could be examined in the SAQs and MCQs at the end of the year.


Craaap, will be like highschool lol, except with way more info to cover!

We don't get to go on the wards this year eh? Does that start in 4th year?
 
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