Post-UMAT 2018 Debrief Thread

[Trinhcent]

welp hahahah, thanks guys, Yea it seems more obvious in colour but I'm not sure if that's what acer intended??

 

[Trinhcent]

Did anyone else find section 1 to be really difficult even though it was your strongest section in prepping? I’m shook.

I found section 1 to be quite alright hahah but we could've got different questions. A lot of problem solving and data intepretation this year

 

[zocdae]

I got this cartoon as a s2 question with the exception that it was black and white :

I cant remember the exact question stem so maybe someone can help me out but I ended up tossing between his comfort zone being a place for him to get away from any anxieties or discomforts, or him feeling rejected and lonely. What did people pick for this question?

Omg I thought those were literally duplicates of herman and his comfort zone was (symbolically) only being with himself. I think I did end up choosing that he thinks his comfort zone is to get away from anxieties though so LOL

 

[Tyrion]

i only got 1 cartoon in the whole exam, how come some people saying 3-4?

 

[zocdae]

Seeing as we get different questions on each exam, how does ACER account for the possibility that someone gets an easier exam? Is there some process of scaling that occurs or is it really just based on luck if you get ‘good’ questions?

 

[zocdae]

i only got 1 cartoon in the whole exam, how come some people saying 3-4?

I think I only got one as well - the herman one. Means we had to do more reading?

 

[Trinhcent]

Seeing as we get different questions on each exam, how does ACER account for the possibility that someone gets an easier exam? Is there some process of scaling that occurs or is it really just based on luck if you get ‘good’ questions.

yea altho ACER won't tell anyone how it works, the exam scores are scaled which would probably account for the difficulties of the questions and candidate perfomance

 

[Lear]

How many maximum layers for liquid mixing?
Was it I, II, both or neither?
What was the X value for juggling balls?

 

[Donald_Trump]

I got this cartoon as a s2 question with the exception that it was black and white :

I cant remember the exact question stem so maybe someone can help me out but I ended up tossing between his comfort zone being a place for him to get away from any anxieties or discomforts, or him feeling rejected and lonely. What did people pick for this question?

From Wikipedia:

"...shame is important because no other affect is more disturbing to the self, none more central for the sense of identity. In the context of normal development, shame is the source of low self-esteem, diminished self image, poor self concept, and deficient body-image. Shame itself produces self-doubt and disrupts both security and confidence. It can become an impediment to the experience of belonging and to shared intimacy....It is the experiential ground from which conscience and identity inevitably evolve. In the context of pathological development, shame is central to the emergence of alienation, loneliness, inferiority and perfectionism. It plays a central role in many psychological disorders as well, including depression, paranoia, addiction, and borderline conditions. Sexual disorders and many eating disorders are largely disorders of shame. Both physical abuse and sexual abuse also significantly involve shame."

I thought that him not being willing to socialise was indicative of inferiority sometimes seen in shame so I chose rejected and lonely. My idea was that if he was anxious he would actually be trying to socialise and be sweating in fear or something similar as he was doing it, but him not even trying was indicative of something else, in my opinion.

 

[kiwikillaz]

Exact same questions, not sure if I can say where they from, might be an unfair advantage to those who haven't done the test yet.

Hey NTS can you say where they are from now!

 

[Lear]

From Wikipedia:

I thought that him not being willing to socialise was indicative of inferiority sometimes seen in shame so I chose rejected and lonely. My idea was that if he was anxious he would actually be trying to socialise and be sweating in fear or something similar as he was doing it, but him not even trying was indicative of something else, in my opinion.

I think if he was feeling rejected he would instead be looking out towards all the others in a longing fashion. Instead he seems to be trying to avoid even looking at others who are being social and instead is staring at a wall which is his 'comfort zone'

 

[pha0015]

I got this cartoon as a s2 question with the exception that it was black and white :

I cant remember the exact question stem so maybe someone can help me out but I ended up tossing between his comfort zone being a place for him to get away from any anxieties or discomforts, or him feeling rejected and lonely. What did people pick for this question?

omg you guys are freaking me out. I though it was rejected and lonely bc comfort zone is in quotation marks, meaning that's what others think of him (aka what they rationalise in their head to make themselves feel better when they exclude him)

edit:
also bc there are quotation marks around comfort zone, meaning that it was sarcastic.
also want to lighten the mood with my mum's reasoning i.e. there are two different groups besides him. what are the odds that both would reject him. also if he feels lonely then he could just join in - there's nothing keeping him from making friends. *sigh* how I wish I was as innocent of how society works.

 

[Lear]

omg you guys are freaking me out. I though it was rejected and lonely bc comfort zone is in quotation marks, meaning that's what others think of him (aka what they rationalise in their head to make themselves feel better when they exclude him)

No one knows the right answer. I would not stress.

 

[Trinhcent]

omg you guys are freaking me out. I though it was rejected and lonely bc comfort zone is in quotation marks, meaning that's what others think of him (aka what they rationalise in their head to make themselves feel better when they exclude him)

I picked that too and it sorta seemed that they were making fun of him in a way. The difficult thing is there is not much evidence we can gauge from Herman himself so I'm really not sure hahahah. Can LMG! Mana contribute their thoughts on this?

 

[Crow]

^This debate reminds me of a similar one...
That dog was confused, not obsessed, right? • r/GAMSAT

 

[Austin]

How did you all go with those quadtree questions.

 

[Trinhcent]

How did you all go with those quadtree questions.

I actually really liked that one hahahah

 

[Donald_Trump]

I think if he was feeling rejected he would instead be looking out towards all the others in a longing fashion. Instead he seems to be trying to avoid even looking at others who are being social and instead is staring at a wall which is his 'comfort zone'

Well, in my opinion, when someone sees themselves as being so 'bad' that they are worthy of rejection and isolation they might not even want to long for social interactions any longer... But I do agree that there is no point in stressing. I'm just trying to justify my answer to myself to feel good about choosing it, really. I suppose anxieties and discomforts could include that type of experience. In the exam, I did change my answer from anxieties and discomforts to rejection and loneliness which I am regretting somewhat now.

 

[Lear]

Well, in my opinion, when someone sees themselves as being so 'bad' that they are worthy of rejection and isolation they might not even want to long for social interactions any longer... But I do agree that there is no point in stressing. I'm just trying to justify my answer to myself to feel good about choosing it, really. I suppose anxieties and discomforts could include that type of experience. I did change my answer from anxieties and discomforts to rejection and loneliness which I am regretting somewhat now.

100% possible Donald. It seems it could go either way. Guess we will never know!

 

[MambaMent..]

idk if anyone remembers this but there was a s2 passage where a woman who abandoned her kid was speaking about her colleague, and at one point she says mind your own business "thank you very much," and the q was like, what was her reason for saying this: a) to apply forceful humour b) to show open hostility c) to show restrained defiance and d) some random shit. What did you guys put?