Quick Questions 2019/2020

[Crow]

Hi
I was just wondering if a degree in dentistry covered the pre requisites for applying to medicine as a non standard or a post graduate applicant later on as some unis require specific subjects
I am juggling between omfs and cardio so just making sure that I am clear about the options out there in case I don't end up liking dentistry
Cheers

Check out Melbourne and UQ’s websites (those are the two graduate entry unis that currently have prerequisites) for what their prerequisites are, and then look at the course outline at the uni you’re planning on doing dentistry at and see if they match up.

As an aside, high school is a very early time to be deciding on a future medical specialty (especially something as niche as OMFS!) - take things one step at a time and focus on getting into medicine first!

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hi
I was just wondering if a degree in dentistry covered the pre requisites for applying to medicine as a non standard or a graduate entry applicant later on as some unis require specific subjects
I am juggling between omfs and cardio so just making sure that I am clear about the options out there in case I don't end up liking dentistry
Cheers

Some non-standard universities require English, maths, and/or chemistry (JCU springs to mind). A couple of graduate entry medicine courses require anatomy and physiology at a specific level (UMelb and maybe UQ?).

If your dentistry degree is taught in English (ie. you’re doing it at an Aus Uni) then that ticks the English requirement. You would need to check specifics on the other requirements as they vary.

 

[pokopoko99]

Does anyone know how the 9 gpa scale is converted to the 7 gpa scale? Also, I read on unsw's website that because students taking a levels results come out later than others they suggest taking a gap year and applying then. Does anyone know how big of an effect taking a levels and applying to unsw has on getting an interview offer and also does this also affect other unis? (I heard that someone from nz last year got 5A*s so 99.95 ATAR and I think 95-97ish Umat but didn't get an interview from Monash)

 

[A1]

Does anyone know how the 9 gpa scale is converted to the 7 gpa scale? Also, I read on unsw's website that because students taking a levels results come out later than others they suggest taking a gap year and applying then. Does anyone know how big of an effect taking a levels and applying to unsw has on getting an interview offer and also does this also affect other unis? (I heard that someone from nz last year got 5A*s so 99.95 ATAR and I think 95-97ish Umat but didn't get an interview from Monash)

I'm too lazy to retype it here, see my post on Verdigris profile for the 9to7 conversion.

With A levels I understand the problem is Unsw/Monash interview interstate/NZ applicants 20ish Jan so must finalise selections by 10ish Jan. If A level results + NZQA conversion to ATAR are not ready by then they can't be considered.

 

[JessicaDay]

Is there a limit to how many universities you can apply to for medicine? Either through UAC or whatever the organisation is for each respective state.

If there is not, say you get interview offers to X amount of universities - does the order you place these universities influence your chance of offers from each uni (will a uni preference a student who has the uni as first preference compared to 3rd or is this information only privy to UAC or respective state bodies)

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Is there a limit to how many universities you can apply to for medicine? Either through UAC or whatever the organisation is for each respective state.

If there is not, say you get interview offers to X amount of universities - does the order you place these universities influence your chance of offers from each uni (will a uni preference a student who has the uni as first preference compared to 3rd or is this information only privy to UAC or respective state bodies)

You’re only limited by the number of preferences each admissions centre allows. I think it varies between 5 and 6 per state, so enough to list all Med courses and a backup if that’s what you want to do.

 

[weebuforreal]

If there is not, say you get interview offers to X amount of universities - does the order you place these universities influence your chance of offers from each uni (will a uni preference a student who has the uni as first preference compared to 3rd or is this information only privy to UAC or respective state bodies)

Your interview invites are unaffected by the preference order you have selected, but the uni offers are. You'll get an offer to the first uni and course that you are eligible to go to out of your preferences, whether it's first or fifth.

 

[JessicaDay]

Your interview invites are unaffected by the preference order you have selected, but the uni offers are. You'll get an offer to the first uni and course that you are eligible to go to out of your preferences, whether it's first or fifth.

Does this mean if I were to say receive offers from my first and 2nd preference I would only get the option to accept the first - unless i decline the first and then would get the chance at accepting the 2nd?

Or would i simply get offers from both universities and i'd up to me who i accept? Based on previous degrees it's only ever one option I've been offered and if it's declined you go into a 2nd round of offers.

 

[BethMark25]

Does this mean if I were to say receive offers from my first and 2nd preference I would only get the option to accept the first - unless i decline the first and then would get the chance at accepting the 2nd?

Or would i simply get offers from both universities and i'd up to me who i accept? Based on previous degrees it's only ever one option I've been offered and if it's declined you go into a 2nd round of offers.

So basically if you had UNSW as first preference and WSU as your second, you can only get one offer in the first round - if you "qualify" for both you'll only receive a UNSW offer. But if you decline that offer you'll have to wait until the next round to see if you receive another offer.

It's the same as what you've described for previous degrees. One option in each round, you'll be offered the first option on your preference list that accepts you.

 

[Deleted member 37156]

Hi .. I was just wondering... UWS & JMP have their interviews in November before atars come out in december - does that mean that the only criteria for invitations to interview is your UCAT? Or do they use a predicted ATAR? I spoke to my career's advisor and he wasn't too sure, but he told me that no unis contacted him last year to request for predicted ATARs from students? so how does that work

Appreciate any help for my confused soul - thanks a bunchie

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hi .. I was just wondering... UWS & JMP have their interviews in November before atars come out in december - does that mean that the only criteria for invitations to interview is your UCAT? Or do they use a predicted ATAR? I spoke to my career's advisor and he wasn't too sure, but he told me that no unis contacted him last year to request for predicted ATARs from students? so how does that work

Appreciate any help for my confused soul - thanks a bunchie

Yes, in previous years UMAT has been the sole deciding factor for interview invites. Presumably this will now be the case for UCAT.

 

[JessicaDay]

Yes, in previous years UMAT has been the sole deciding factor for interview invites. Presumably this will now be the case for UCAT.

So assuming this is the case - students who pass the UCAT threshold, and pass the interviews but don't have the required GPA/ATAR just don't get a position? Seems like a waste of invites - especially if of the 500 interview candidates, 300 are ineligible due to ATAR threshold, than only 200 are really being considered for a position - This means UCAT takers who were the next 300 down the line who may have met the ATAR threshold don't get a chance to interview due to ineligible students?

Seems like a flawed process unless I'm missing something?

 

[Crow]

So assuming this is the case - students who pass the UCAT threshold, and pass the interviews but don't have the required GPA/ATAR just don't get a position? Seems like a waste of invites - especially if of the 500 interview candidates, 300 are ineligible due to ATAR threshold, than only 200 are really being considered for a position - This means UCAT takers who were the next 300 down the line who may have met the ATAR threshold don't get a chance to interview due to ineligible students?

Seems like a flawed process unless I'm missing something?

You’ve understood correctly, but the majority of candidates who have a high enough UCAT score to apply are very likely to a) Have an ATAR above the threshold or (less likely) b) Not apply at all because they know their ATAR is going to be below the threshold.

Certainly you shouldn’t expect 60% of applicants invited to interview to fall below the ATAR threshold - if this was the case JMP and WSU would surely change their admissions process.

 

[failedlobster]

when applying to uq prov entry on QTAC, does this include the bachelors degree you will study before studying the doctor of medicine? in the qtac book it says the start date is "Feb 2020" so im assuming that it does.

thanks in advance

 

[Logic]

when applying to uq prov entry on QTAC, does this include the bachelors degree you will study before studying the doctor of medicine? in the qtac book it says the start date is "Feb 2020" so im assuming that it does.

thanks in advance

Not sure if this is your question but if you’re asking whether you have to pick your provisional degree now before you do medicine at UQ then the answer is no you pick the undergraduate degree later. When you get an offer to study provisional med at UQ you’ll get an email asking you to select the undergraduate degree you will do (e.g bachelor of science). Hope that was what you were asking.

ETA: if you mean whether preferencing the provision UQ med option includes an undergraduate portion, then yes. You complete an undergraduate degree before you progress to the MD.

 

[Crow]

when applying to uq prov entry on QTAC, does this include the bachelors degree you will study before studying the doctor of medicine? in the qtac book it says the start date is "Feb 2020" so im assuming that it does.

thanks in advance

From memory you get offered a provisional entry position, and then you nominate the degree that you’d like to do as your undergraduate degree. The preference on QTAC will purely be for provisional entry to the MD (unless they change their process for this year).

 

[failedlobster]

From memory you get offered a provisional entry position, and then you nominate the degree that you’d like to do as your undergraduate degree. The preference on QTAC will purely be for provisional entry to the MD (unless they change their process for this year).

do you nominate the undergraduate degree as a separate QTAC preference?

 

[Crow]

do you nominate the undergraduate degree as a separate QTAC preference?

No - not unless you actually have another UQ degree as your back up option if you miss out on medicine (in which case it would be separate from the provisional entry preference entirely).

 

[Deleted member 37156]

Yes, in previous years UMAT has been the sole deciding factor for interview invites. Presumably this will now be the case for UCAT.

Oh wow, didn't know that haha. So around what were the percentiles required for interview invitation for UWS & JMP in the past few years, considering you are a non-rural and non-GWS year 12 student?

 

[A1]

do you nominate the undergraduate degree as a separate QTAC preference?

The provisional Med offer will ask you to enrol to confirm your acceptance, that's when you pick the undergrad degree.

You can go one better by asking UQ Med Admission to arrange for you Dentistry as your undergrad. UQ is the only uni in Aus where you can have this precious option haha.