Quick Questions Thread #2: 2018-2019

[Logic]

Yep JCU was the one I was looking at because of its 9th November round. Is there any disadvantage in having to be considered in the second invitation batch?

I believe there is no disadvantage whether you sit in the first or second round.

 

[PeterParkerPen]

Further to what has already been mentioned; we occasionally have people asking how they make sure the TACs have the correct GPA. The key here is to make sure your own UNIVERSITY has your correct GPA. What the Uni has is what the TAC will get, which is handy because it is (well, should be!) an easier process to confirm the GPA held by your uni. Mine (UTAS) was available by requesting an online statement of results (perhaps called academic record or academic transcript). Other unis might have different methods, but it can be worth checking early if there’s an issue (which is highly unlikely, in my experience, but also complicated to get addressed on the off chance that it is wrong - if that makes sense!).

Sorry, what's a TAC?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Sorry, what's a TAC?

Tertiary admissions centre.

UAC
VTAC
QTAC
SATAC
TISC

 

[PeterParkerPen]

Tertiary admissions centre.

UAC
VTAC
QTAC
SATAC
TISC

Thanks. Previous reply regarding checking also made sense. Since I'm sure my GPA will change after this sem, I'll probably request it right after release of results

 

[maniacfish]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what exactly the JMP section 1 cutoff has been in previous years? I know it was 58 last year and 60ish most years. I'm starting to feel a little anxious over my chances haha.

 

[A1]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what exactly the JMP section 1 cutoff has been in previous years? I know it was 58 last year and 60ish most years. I'm starting to feel a little anxious over my chances haha.

From preparing the Criteria table I'm almost 100% sure it was 60 for 2015 & 16, then dropped to 58 last year.

 

[tod]

Hi tod, which universities are you applying to? JCU, UNSW, UTas? The requirements for the written application are quite different for each.

im planning to apply to all three i have past applications for JCU utas cheers

 

[Michael Wan]

While looking at all the undergrad or provisional medical degrees across Australia, for provisional, as you need to do another degree first and then almost guarantee to get in the MD, I can expect 5-7 years. But why Uni of Adelaide MBBS is 6 years while most undergraduate are 5 years? May be I was wrong??

For UTas Medicine, what is the number/quota for interstate school leavers in 2018 and 2017? I heard that the number is really low, as I am in NSW, my success rate (no interview for UTas as shown on their website) to get an offer in January would be very slim, is this the correct assumption?

Can someone help in explaining the ATAR bonus points mentioned in the 2017/8 Interview offer table for Flinders provisional Medicine?

 

[Crow]

While looking at all the undergrad or provisional medical degrees across Australia, for provisional, as you need to do another degree first and then almost guarantee to get in the MD, I can expect 5-7 years. But why Uni of Adelaide MBBS is 6 years while most undergraduate are 5 years? May be I was wrong??

Different unis structure their courses differently and as such some take an extra year to others. For example, UNSW adds an extra year for "IPL" which is a mandatory research year, and as such their program is 6 years instead of 5. I'd imagine the time students spend on break from uni is also shorter for those doing a 5 year program in comparison to Adel, UNSW and JCU students who are doing a 6 year program.

For UTas Medicine, what is the number/quota for interstate school leavers in 2018 and 2017? I heard that the number is really low, as I am in NSW, my success rate (no interview for UTas as shown on their website) to get an offer in January would be very slim, is this the correct assumption?

Yes, the majority of positions go to Tasmanian school-leavers and rural interstate applicants. LMG! will no doubt have a more specific answer.

So you are aware, you can use the "Edit" button to add extra details to your original post, rather than posting three times in succession.

 

[A1]

For UTas Medicine, what is the number/quota for interstate school leavers in 2018 and 2017? I heard that the number is really low, as I am in NSW, my success rate (no interview for UTas as shown on their website) to get an offer in January would be very slim, is this the correct assumption?

Not sure of a quota but typically fewer than 10 and in the past non-rural interstate required 96+%ile with 60+ S2. Your UMAT may get a BMedRes offer with a guarantee for MBBS 3 years later, total of 8 years.

Can someone help in explaining the ATAR bonus points mentioned in the 2017/8 Interview offer table for Flinders provisional Medicine?

> Adjustment factors - SATAC

If your school or you are eligible you get 5 bonus aggregate points to boost a 97.70+ to 99.90+ for Flinders provisional.

 

[Michael Wan]

Not sure of a quota but typically fewer than 10 and in the past non-rural interstate required 96+%ile with 60+ S2. Your UMAT may get a BMedRes offer with a guarantee for MBBS 3 years later, total of 8 years.



> Adjustment factors - SATAC

If your school or you are eligible you get 5 bonus aggregate points to boost a 97.70+ to 99.90+ for Flinders provisional.

Thanks for the posting tips, sorry to post 3 separate questions in a roll.
For Flinders, as I am in NSW and has no equity applications, this will not apply to me for Medicine.

For UAC preferences, is it correct that if I get an offer in a Round after the ATAR release, I should REMOVE the Degree course from the list and put another one in so as not to loose any further round offer chances?

For WSU non-stnadard pathway, can I apply again in 2019 if I enroll and started a Medical degree in other State next year, taking the UMAT again in 2019 and retry to get an interview from WSU? If successful, transfer to WSU?

 

[Q3]

For WSU non-stnadard pathway, can I apply again in 2019 if I enroll and started a Medical degree in other State next year, taking the UMAT again in 2019 and retry to get an interview from WSU? If successful, transfer to WSU?

I know in all med school applications they ask if you have started at another university and even if you do get accepted I think you would have to start from year 1. But I believe once you start a medical degree somewhere it is very hard to get accepted into another course unless you have a really good reason.

 

[A1]

For Flinders, as I am in NSW and has no equity applications, this will not apply to me for Medicine.

I don't know whether you have checked, SATAC does include some interstate schools for the 5 bonus points.

For UAC preferences, is it correct that if I get an offer in a Round after the ATAR release, I should REMOVE the Degree course from the list and put another one in so as not to loose any further round offer chances?

Advice I have seen on TAC websites is after accepting the offer you MOVE the pref to bottom of the list. I don't know if removing would cause a problem.

For WSU non-stnadard pathway, can I apply again in 2019 if I enroll and started a Medical degree in other State next year, taking the UMAT again in 2019 and retry to get an interview from WSU? If successful, transfer to WSU?

There's a page of info on this on WSU website. WSU does accept applicants who are already in a med course elsewhere, however this transfer could mean you restart year1 at WSU not necessarily joining year2.

 

[BethMark25]

Thanks for the posting tips, sorry to post 3 separate questions in a roll.
For Flinders, as I am in NSW and has no equity applications, this will not apply to me for Medicine.

For UAC preferences, is it correct that if I get an offer in a Round after the ATAR release, I should REMOVE the Degree course from the list and put another one in so as not to loose any further round offer chances?

For WSU non-stnadard pathway, can I apply again in 2019 if I enroll and started a Medical degree in other State next year, taking the UMAT again in 2019 and retry to get an interview from WSU? If successful, transfer to WSU?

From my understanding it is notoriously difficult to "transfer" to another medical degree as you've described. I certainly wouldn't bank on that as a possibility. If you accept and start another medical degree you should be prepared to complete it, as I don't think it's terribly likely that you would be able to transfer or start another medical degree the next year.

As for UAC. If you get an offer for a course that is say, your first preference - I believe you can change preferences but I don't know that you should remove the course entirely. But you can move that course further down the list so that you'll then be considered for your NEW first preference in following rounds.

 

[Logic]

Thanks for the posting tips, sorry to post 3 separate questions in a roll.
For Flinders, as I am in NSW and has no equity applications, this will not apply to me for Medicine.

For UAC preferences, is it correct that if I get an offer in a Round after the ATAR release, I should REMOVE the Degree course from the list and put another one in so as not to loose any further round offer chances?

For WSU non-stnadard pathway, can I apply again in 2019 if I enroll and started a Medical degree in other State next year, taking the UMAT again in 2019 and retry to get an interview from WSU? If successful, transfer to WSU?

If you're curious about whether your school gains any bonus points I recommend you call up SATAC, they do apply for interstate schools as well as SA ones.

 

[Q3]

I believe universities are very reluctant to accept other med students because they want to avoid having students enrol in their course as a back-up with the intention of transferring if possible. If everybody did this it would not be good for the universities. To transfer you need the agreement of both of the Deans. For every student they lose that is also course fees that they lose, with no guarantee that another student will take up your place

I don't know about the process, but it asks for a reason for transfer and if your reason is because you want to study in your home-state I don't think that will be looked upon favourably. But you should wait to hear the opinions of people who know about this process more.

My opinion on this is if you accept an offer be prepared to study it for the full length or don't accept it all.

 

[Michael Wan]

From my understanding it is notoriously difficult to "transfer" to another medical degree as you've described. I certainly wouldn't bank on that as a possibility. If you accept and start another medical degree you should be prepared to complete it, as I don't think it's terribly likely that you would be able to transfer or start another medical degree the next year.

As for UAC. If you get an offer for a course that is say, your first preference - I believe you can change preferences but I don't know that you should remove the course entirely. But you can move that course further down the list so that you'll then be considered for your NEW first preference in following rounds.

Thanks all for the help in answering this.

I asked the 'removing' the Uni from the preference list question because one of the ladies at the UAC booth in the open day specifically told me to 'remove' the name of the Uni and the course from the list once I got the offer and accepted it. I might give UAC a call tomorrow and update you all on this.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Thanks all for the help in answering this.

I asked the 'removing' the Uni from the preference list question because one of the ladies at the UAC booth in the open day specifically told me to 'remove' the name of the Uni and the course from the list once I got the offer and accepted it. I might give UAC a call tomorrow and update you all on this.

Regarding starting Med and then going elsewhere after: I know for a fact (including one student in person) that both WSU and JMP (at a minimum) allow this without prejudice, using your Med GPA as they would use the GPA from any other degree. You do have to start at year 1, though, and get no recognition of prior learning. You need to meet the UMAT requirements and be successful in the interview in the same way everyone else does. I would imagine starting a BMP would complicate this (that’s a government contract, not a university one), so it would be worth double checking how that works if it became relevant.

 

[JMP Lova]

Regional Bonus Points | Western Sydney

“Regional Bonus Points apply to all courses, except the Doctor of Medicine (MD), Bachelor of Music, Bachelor of Music (Dean’s Scholar), Bachelor of Creative Industries (Music), Bachelor of Music/Bachelor of Creative Industries, and Bachelor of Physiotherapy.”

No GWS? This is news!

 

[maniacfish]

Regional Bonus Points | Western Sydney

“Regional Bonus Points apply to all courses, except the Doctor of Medicine (MD), Bachelor of Music, Bachelor of Music (Dean’s Scholar), Bachelor of Creative Industries (Music), Bachelor of Music/Bachelor of Creative Industries, and Bachelor of Physiotherapy.”

No GWS? This is news!

pretty sure this has always been the case, medicine is considered under a different 'scheme'
edit: did still cause me to nearly die for a second tho