Sorry I wasn't paying much attention around the time these "system errors" occurred, so I don't really know what they were.
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UNSW UNSW Medicine: General Entry Questions and Discussion
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DootDoolaDoot
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From what I understand certain catorgries of EAS are grouped within this pool (incl SCATS) however we have no way of knowing which of those are furthermore typically SCATS just adds a bonus to your selection rank for the course IIRC e.g. a 98 may boost to a 99.5 if they add 1.5 selection points to your final ranking!
EAS has its own pool?
for certain catorgries of EAS yes.
Does anyone know if there is some slight bias/leniency towards school-leavers as opposed to non-standard entry applicants?
I'd assume getting a high GPA is 'relatively' easier (FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD PLEASE CORRECT ME IF THIS IS BEING IGNORANT) than each states respective ATAR's/equivalent. (I only say this as in NSW for example you're competing with 50,000 odd students to get an ATAR).
I'd assume getting a high GPA is 'relatively' easier (FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD PLEASE CORRECT ME IF THIS IS BEING IGNORANT) than each states respective ATAR's/equivalent. (I only say this as in NSW for example you're competing with 50,000 odd students to get an ATAR).
JeydinNewWon
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I don’t think so. Getting high GPA is relatively subjective and even if that was the case, UNSW just plugs your GPA into an ATAR equivalent mark which they use instead.
That’s what the table is for it accurately maps GPA to where you would be sitting for an equivelant percentile like ATAR. It is not relatively easy to get straight 7s (HDs) depending on your degree, obviously no degree is “easy” however there are definitely degrees with people gunning for high marks if you are doing biomedicine/healthsci on the science side most students want to get into medicine so are gunning for super high grades. The university also has to put all the students on a bell curve for most course. There is no reason for UNSW to have a bias for school leavers, and they don’t.
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_yayayaya_
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CSP - ~72% of places, BMP ~28% of places. We don't have confirmation on how they are split between rural and non-rural students or the various campuses.
Thats not too fair then, itd be easier to get a higher GPA if youre competing against lower calibre students in a particular degree, as opposed to somebody competing in Biomed, Med Sci, Health Sci etc... Unlike ATAR's where the particular subjects are scaled/moderated/aligned to give marks which are very much standardised. Which would mean that UNSW 'should' have a screening for that in their GPA applicants no? (ie: making it slightly harder or some other method)
Here we go again...
No, it’s impossible to quanitfy and whilst I may think some arts students have it easy realistically maybe their skill set is much better suited to an arts degree. There is in no way a situation where GPA should be scrutinised over ATAR in my opinion. Non-standards already have enough of a challenge only being able to apply to a limited number of schools.
Uh oh. Have I said something stupid?
This is going to go off topic quickly but to answer your question no UNSW does not descriminate they take what UAC converts your GPA into and uses it as an ATAR and so they should.
At the end of the day they would be the most qualified people considering they see different GPA’s for course transfers all the time to assign a percentile to a GPA.
I’m not going to agree with you on this one if you think GPA should be further scrutinised no matter what you say at the end of the day I’ve worked very hard for my GPA as has every non standard.
A reason UNSW wouldn't implement such a policy is how exactly do they determine which university or course has higher calibre students compared to another ?
Why exactly is Biomed/MedSci considered a course with higher calibre students ? If you look at the median atar of such a course it's certainly not the highest and the variability amongst universities as well makes it extremely difficult to scrutinise. Grading scales are far easier to compare and Biomed/MedSci might actually have grade inflation compared to other degrees
Just checked, compared to some common non-standard degrees, MedSci might actually have the lowest SR and probably median as well for UNSW
1. MedSci : LSR : 86
2. Commerce : LSR : 93
3. Economics : LSR : 91
4. Comsci : LSR : 90
5. Eng : LSR : 90
6. Law : LSR : 92.9 + LAT
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Ahh yeah thats fair enough. Idk, i personally just think everything should just be standardised. Ie: have a national education system which can compare students for entry at any of the Uni's. Because you never know, maybe getting a 99.5 in QLD is much harder and would actually be equivalent to a NSW 99.9.
Nah, I didn't have an intention to get that message across, sorry about that. I think if they have people making those calls internally in allocating the appropriate ATAR equivalent, then thats all there is to be done. (Personally, I reckon ATAR easier than GPA, from what my older cousins tell me anyway lol, or maybe its just that i picked subs that i really do enjoy, who knows)
A 99.95 is the same difficulty anywhere in Australia to achieve it means you score better than 99.95% of your cohort so regardless of cohort size it still has the same difficulty.
I understand you didn’t mean to come across like that don’t stress.
On what planet is getting a 99.95 ATAR easier than getting a 7 GPA? Roughly 1 in 1200 high school students get a perfect ATAR, if the frequency of 7 GPA students is even an order of magnitude within that figure I'll eat my hat. You don't need to look any further than previous Griffith dent intakes, where they converted 7 GPAs to 99.95 ATARs - virtually all offers were given to non-standards, school leavers simply couldn't compete.
_yayayaya_
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What does LSR mean???