UNSW UNSW Medicine: General Entry Questions and Discussion

[A1]

I read a few years back an article published by some of the medicine academics about their entry criteria and how they have moved to a non-compensatory method of selecting applicants. Let me see if I can find said article.

edit: here it is - Selecting top candidates for medical school selection interviews- a non-compensatory approach

Thanks for this info, it's a big help to guide me to an understanding of what going on.

With the compensatory method (CM) in earlier years
- Each applicant gets an ATAR rank and a UCAT rank (ranked against the applicants pool)
- These two ranks are combined/averaged into an effective rank
(Example ATAR ranked 700th + UCAT ranked 20th gives Effective rank 360th)
- The effective rank is used to select the top say 450 for interview.

But now with the non-compensatory method (NCM)
- The same, each applicant gets an ATAR rank and a UCAT rank
- They are then ranked on the *lowest* of their two ranks
- If there aren't many high ATAR with low UCAT (to be excluded by UCAT) the exampled applicant above would be ranked outside of 450th to get an interview.

....
However that is for interview selection. It's hard to visualise how NCM can have been applied to place offers, because
- If lowest rank were applied as above, 150 places out of 450 interviewees means all of lowly-ranked 99.5-99.6s would be rejected. But we have seen 99.5-99.6s got place offers.

The puzzling thing is in recent years med schools make an effort to lessen the advantages well-off families can afford to gain, namely very high ATARs. UNSW's action results in you either have 99.50+ or you need EAS/Gateway, the regular schools' 99.0 to 99.45 are now shut out. (Whereas in earlier years they had a chance to balance up with a high UCAT).

 

[doktor]

is anyone else unable to choose an interview date for unsw on the map?

 

[lilly_]

is anyone else unable to choose an interview date for unsw on the map?

No I haven't been able to, just came to ask the same question

 

[miraclemed]

No I haven't been able to, just came to ask the same question

Same here

 

[JFB]

is anyone else unable to choose an interview date for unsw on the map?

You saw a map? I only got to see the header. Looks like they've taken it down now.

 

[doktor]

You saw a map? I only got to see the header. Looks like they've taken it down now.

medicine application portal

 

[JFB]

medicine application portal

Same here

No I haven't been able to, just came to ask the same question

Has anyone actually emailed them?

 

[miraclemed]

Has anyone actually emailed them?

I have, though will probably only get a response Monday

 

[lilly_]

I have, though will probably only get a response Monday

I emailed them aswell

 

[greengrass]

The UNSW rural interview interface has been fixed. You can book your interviews now guys.

 

[Ribs]

Hey, I recieved an interview for UNSW rural, are there any spreadsheets with atar/ucat scores and people to recieved an offer for UNSW rural from past years? I received a ucat of 2680 and an atar 95.7, my current wam at UNSW is 78 (first year), how likely would I be for getting an offer? My rurality is MM4 (its MM5 using the 2015 model). Also, does anyone know how many people recieve offers, and how many people are interviewed for rural? Thanks.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hey, I recieved an interview for UNSW rural, are there any spreadsheets with atar/ucat scores and people to recieved an offer for UNSW rural from past years? I received a ucat of 2680 and an atar 95.7, my current wam at UNSW is 78 (first year), how likely would I be for getting an offer? My rurality is MM4 (its MM5 using the 2015 model). Also, does anyone know how many people recieve offers, and how many people are interviewed for rural? Thanks.

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[A1]

Also, does anyone know how many people recieve offers, and how many people are interviewed for rural? Thanks.

Adding to DrLMG's reply, in previous years UNSW said they interviewed approx 150 rural applicants for 50 place offers.

 

[ghostfighter566]

Hey, I recieved an interview for UNSW rural, are there any spreadsheets with atar/ucat scores and people to recieved an offer for UNSW rural from past years? I received a ucat of 2680 and an atar 95.7, my current wam at UNSW is 78 (first year), how likely would I be for getting an offer? My rurality is MM4 (its MM5 using the 2015 model). Also, does anyone know how many people recieve offers, and how many people are interviewed for rural? Thanks.

If you dont mind me asking. What degree are you studying?

I took a gap yr this yr and received a 3080 (91%ile) and a 98.65 (I got EAS which boosts to a .95) so naturally its really unpredictable whether I get an int offer (hopefully I do). I was going to start medsci at unsw next yr if I did fumble coz
a. it lwk seems interesting
b. i talked to alot of the drs at where im working at and the postgrad ones all have done some sort of medsci/sci/biomed ug (its the method)

im hoping this is sorta related to the forum. surely yall can tell im losing my mind ;-;

 

[lilly_]

If you dont mind me asking. What degree are you studying?

I took a gap yr this yr and received a 3080 (91%ile) and a 98.65 (I got EAS which boosts to a .95) so naturally its really unpredictable whether I get an int offer (hopefully I do). I was going to start medsci at unsw next yr if I did fumble coz
a. it lwk seems interesting
b. i talked to alot of the drs at where im working at and the postgrad ones all have done some sort of medsci/sci/biomed ug (its the method)

im hoping this is sorta related to the forum. surely yall can tell im losing my mind ;-;

Not who you were asking but I'm currently a non-standard, I'm in my first year of medical radiation science (nuclear medicine), and I find it quite interesting (not at unsw). From what I looked at when choosing my degree for before med, those "pre-med" or medical science degrees can be quite competitive as everyone is aiming for med. My degree doesn't have that competitiveness. Ultimately it's up to you to choose what degree is best suited for you however.
I find it's also really prepared me for entering med as I gain a knowledge of bioscience, but also the professional, legal, ethical side of being a healthcare worker.

 

[Ribs]

If you dont mind me asking. What degree are you studying?

I took a gap yr this yr and received a 3080 (91%ile) and a 98.65 (I got EAS which boosts to a .95) so naturally its really unpredictable whether I get an int offer (hopefully I do). I was going to start medsci at unsw next yr if I did fumble coz
a. it lwk seems interesting
b. i talked to alot of the drs at where im working at and the postgrad ones all have done some sort of medsci/sci/biomed ug (its the method)

im hoping this is sorta related to the forum. surely yall can tell im losing my mind ;-;

Currently studying Compsci and engineering at UNSW lol

 

[Deboza]

As a current med student at UNSW, don't do a bachelors of medsci/biomed/sci w/e whilst looking to get into medicine.

 

[ghostfighter566]

Not who you were asking but I'm currently a non-standard, I'm in my first year of medical radiation science (nuclear medicine), and I find it quite interesting (not at unsw). From what I looked at when choosing my degree for before med, those "pre-med" or medical science degrees can be quite competitive as everyone is aiming for med. My degree doesn't have that competitiveness. Ultimately it's up to you to choose what degree is best suited for you however.
I find it's also really prepared me for entering med as I gain a knowledge of bioscience, but also the professional, legal, ethical side of being a healthcare worker.

Thanks

 

[dr23]

Not if your ATAR is released as scheduled on 18-December.
The 2nd interview round is for interstate + any local who didn't have their ATAR/GPA available by 18-Dec.


Yes they are. All missing-out local interviewees go into the pool for 2nd round offers.
If the interstate interviewees don't perform well enough the missing-out locals can outrank them for a 2nd round offer.

Hi, for non-standards (results released before 18 dec), they will be strictly considered for only 1st round interviews? (only december but not jan?) So, if you don't get an interview offer in Dec, that means you basically have no chance, is this right?

 

[A1]

Hi, for non-standards (results released before 18 dec), they will be strictly considered for only 1st round interviews? (only december but not jan?) So, if you don't get an interview offer in Dec, that means you basically have no chance, is this right?

Yeah if your uni results are out by say 15-Dec and don't change afterwards, I see no basis for UNSW to reconsider for the January round.

The Dec & Jan rounds are supposed to have the same cutoffs. So is the Feb(interstate) round but sometimes raised even higher - when interview scores of the NSW locals indicate the borderline ones don't stand a chance for an offer, don't fly over wasting your time/money.