'What papers should I do at UoO for graduate entry' Chat, Enquiries and Help

[Deleted member 4350]

Hey thanks @Doodle !
I'm doing a neuroscience major looking at post grad med.
At the moment I'm doing S1: MICR221, ANAT336, PSYC323 and HUNT221
S2: MICR223, ANAT335 and PSYC313
If anyone could give me any tips on these papers, or strongly recommends not doing one of them that would be awesome!!!

As MICR221 clashes with ANAT336, I would have to find someone to podcast one lecture each week, or choose another paper. If I chose another paper, I don't know what I would do so would probs do 3 papers in sem 1 and look at anat243 or micr222 in second sem. Any advice?

Thanks =)

If there's a clash, its unlikely that your course would be approved. You'd need to find another paper that fits into your timetable. MICR221 and 223 are good choices, but I recommend taking 222 as well if you're looking to do post grad med. HUNT221 is also a good choice. If possible, try taking ANAT332 in your second semester. If push comes to shove, take out MICR223 and add MICR222 and ANAT332 to your second semester. That should set you up fairly well for third year.

 

[bobby190]

Any advice?

Study hard

Do as many micro papers as you can

 

[SexyJ]

I'm gna study biomed in otago this year and i chose
ANAT241,gene221,Bioc221,Phsl231

Do you know what kind of textbooks are required for these courses??
Also, some subjects do not require textbooks... do all of these courses require textbooks?

 

[Deleted member 4350]

I'm gna study biomed in otago this year and i chose
ANAT241,gene221,Bioc221,Phsl231

Do you know what kind of textbooks are required for these courses??
Also, some subjects do not require textbooks... do all of these courses require textbooks?

Textbooks are generally not 'necessary' for any papers. If you read the information pack for each paper, certain texts are 'essential reading,' but really all you need at second year level are lecture slides and possibly audio recordings. When you hit third year then textbooks and especially research articles become important.

Btw I wouldn't recommend BIOC221 - a friend of mine who got mostly A+s in her papers ended up with an A-: the top mark for that paper.

 

[Lisa Caldwell]

Ok in that case [MENTION=4350]koochkooch[/MENTION] I might have to do 4 papers in second sem instead, meaning I might do MICR22 and 223? Coz ANAT332 would be a bigger workload than a 200 level paper? Coz I was also wondering about the clash as someone told me that the Micro department might not allow the clash.

Thanks guys =)

 

[Deleted member 4350]

Ok in that case @koochkooch I might have to do 4 papers in second sem instead, meaning I might do MICR22 and 223? Coz ANAT332 would be a bigger workload than a 200 level paper? Coz I was also wondering about the clash as someone told me that the Micro department might not allow the clash.

Thanks guys =)

ANAT332 is the only 300 level paper (I know of) that has a lower workload than 200 levels.

 

[Lisa Caldwell]

Are there any 200 levels in 1st sem that are good to take other than MICR221? Otherwise my sem1 workload is like nothing haha and sem 2 is pretty busy as those papers have more class time

 

[Lego Man]

I'm gna study biomed in otago this year and i chose
ANAT241,gene221,Bioc221,Phsl231

Do you know what kind of textbooks are required for these courses??
Also, some subjects do not require textbooks... do all of these courses require textbooks?

Btw I wouldn't recommend BIOC221 - a friend of mine who got mostly A+s in her papers ended up with an A-: the top mark for that paper.

BIOC221 isn't toooo bad... I did it last year. If you're doing GENE221 concurrently, or previously, I would recommend it as there is a fair amount of conceptual overlap (Gene221 being molecular & microbial genetics, and bioc221 being molecular biology). The two BIOC and GENE papers are very much logical-style papers in my opinion, quite different to BIOC192. I was very happy with my grades in terms of how much I focussed on it, but I would say that the bioc paper is slightly harder than the gene one. BIOC also has formal lab reports, while GENE has quasi-lab-writeup things which are much much easier. I really enjoyed BIOC221, but I do admit there are modules that were a difficult at first, but then things kind of piece together at the end if you stick at it.

I wouldn't really recommend the genetics textbook for 221 if you have the bioc textbook. I found the bioc textbook really helpful. The lecturers will tell you about the textbook for genetics in your prelim lecture (they did last year) but I remember them saying that only half of the course was applicable to the book (I didn't get the book so can't really comment on that, just took their word for it). The genetics textbook was apparently more helpful for 222 and 223.

The BIOC book is rather expensive from memory, but a good investment particularly if you are doing other BIOC papers. But then again, there are several BIOC books available from the science library. It's a massive book (about the same size as the CELS book in first year) so using the library copies was useful instead of bringing it in to study at uni if that's where you prefer to study. Goodluck in them if you choose to take them, BIOC is my major and I enjoyed those two alot.

 

[xMeerkatx]

Hi there,
I was just wondering if anyone could tell me what the papers ANAT243 and STAT115 were like?

 

[Lego Man]

Hi there,
I was just wondering if anyone could tell me what the papers ANAT243 and STAT115 were like?

I didn't do the stats paper, but have heard it was pretty good in terms of ease. In fact, everything I have heard about it has been positive. Some very similar stuff to HEAL192 in many sections from what I saw. I would be interested to hear other opinions though.

 

[AppleMac22]

Hi there,
I was just wondering if anyone could tell me what the papers ANAT243 and STAT115 were like?

ANAT243 is a really light and easy paper; the assessments are short essays (really short) and a rat race (like in 241 but I'm sure it's easier- haven't done 241 though) and the content taught is pretty straightforward (bar some of the developmental module not a big deal though).

STAT's is also a really good paper (or was when I did it in 2011), particularly if you've done high school stats. While it doesn't really matter, if you got E's in stats and/or schol stats in high school you will find getting an A+ easy (and maybe left a little unsatisfied due to the lack of depth in some of the interesting topics covered ). But even if you have no experience and don't mind a bit of math it's still an easy paper. There's also plussage, which some people find comforting, however the internal component of the paper is composed of a series of mini tests, and you get 3 tries for each! (virtually same questions each time) which is nice.

The similarities between epi and stats = biostatistics, so things like odd ratio's etc, bear in mind however while stat110 (sem1) is virtually identical to 115 (sem2) the biostatistics component is more prominent in 115. I think there's more general probability concepts in 110.

 

[xMeerkatx]

ANAT243 is a really light and easy paper; the assessments are short essays (really short) and a rat race (like in 241 but I'm sure it's easier- haven't done 241 though) and the content taught is pretty straightforward (bar some of the developmental module not a big deal though).

STAT's is also a really good paper (or was when I did it in 2011), particularly if you've done high school stats. While it doesn't really matter, if you got E's in stats and/or schol stats in high school you will find getting an A+ easy (and maybe left a little unsatisfied due to the lack of depth in some of the interesting topics covered ). But even if you have no experience and don't mind a bit of math it's still an easy paper. There's also plussage, which some people find comforting, however the internal component of the paper is composed of a series of mini tests, and you get 3 tries for each! (virtually same questions each time) which is nice.

The similarities between epi and stats = biostatistics, so things like odd ratio's etc, bear in mind however while stat110 (sem1) is virtually identical to 115 (sem2) the biostatistics component is more prominent in 115. I think there's more general probability concepts in 110.

Thanks for all that info it was really helpful! Epi was probably my weakest subject in health science do you think it would still be managable or would you recommend doing the 110 paper?

 

[AppleMac22]

Thanks for all that info it was really helpful! Epi was probably my weakest subject in health science do you think it would still be managable or would you recommend doing the 110 paper?

No problem! Hmm, I think it shouldn't really matter.. since it's just basic odds ratio stuff but in the context of epidemiology, so no "real" epi (for example you might just get more questions that involve the prevalence of a condition etc). Personally I took 110, not only because it was in s1, but also because it seemed like less reading in the exam lol (since it's less biostats). But I think the difference isn't significant!

 

[xMeerkatx]

ok Thank you for all your help applemac22.
One more question can you or anyone tell me how the MAOR110 paper was and compare it to the MAOR102?

 

[AppleMac22]

ok Thank you for all your help applemac22.
One more question can you or anyone tell me how the MAOR110 paper was and compare it to the MAOR102?

Main difference is ofcourse that 110 is primarily a language paper, whereas 102 is really based on cultural values. In 110 you need to learn the basics of Maori language (like you would in any other language paper) and instead of essays there's quizzes revolving around comprehension etc. 110 is also more speech-based i.e. there are tutorials where you practice your speaking skils, and there is also a speech assignment.

 

[xMeerkatx]

Main difference is ofcourse that 110 is primarily a language paper, whereas 102 is really based on cultural values. In 110 you need to learn the basics of Maori language (like you would in any other language paper) and instead of essays there's quizzes revolving around comprehension etc. 110 is also more speech-based i.e. there are tutorials where you practice your speaking skils, and there is also a speech assignment.

In terms of difficulty how would you rate the two in comparison?

 

[NAMPOLEON]

In terms of difficulty how would you rate the two in comparison?

For 110, I went to lectures, no tutorials, and did about 2 days worth of casual study before finals to get 95% overall. I did pay attention in class though.

Much easier than 102 in terms of absolute workload - just some blackboard online tests (A mix of small tests to make up 15%), a speech worth 10% (1 on 1 with a tutor), a small hand-in assignment worth 5%, 2 mid-terms (12% and 18%), and finals.

Lecturer gives you time in lecture to get everything down too. I think I had 6 pages of notes almost 10 lectures into the course...

Highly recommended.

 

[AppleMac22]

For 110, I went to lectures, no tutorials, and did about 2 days worth of casual study before finals to get 95% overall. I did pay attention in class though.

Much easier than 102 in terms of absolute workload - just some blackboard online tests (A mix of small tests to make up 15%), a speech worth 10% (1 on 1 with a tutor), a small hand-in assignment worth 5%, 2 mid-terms (12% and 18%), and finals.

Lecturer gives you time in lecture to get everything down too. I think I had 6 pages of notes almost 10 lectures into the course...

Highly recommended.

Agreed, 110's workload is even smaller than 102's

 

[Lego Man]

Agreed, 110's workload is even smaller than 102's

Yup, agree! I did MAOR110 as part of my minor... Just keep in mind though [MENTION=14824]xMeerkatx[/MENTION] that 110 is a language paper rather than content or logic paper, so the learning style is quite different. No biggie or anything, just seemed a bit funny sometimes coming out of an intense biochem lecture and straight into a language paper. Took a couple of days to get used to and then it was alg!

I would recommend the tutorials if you're not too confident as it does make it alot easier... But they aren't compulasary, just there to give you more confidence and master pronunciation as a small proportion (10%) of the assessment is oral.

 

[xMeerkatx]

Thank you all for being such a great help, I really appreciate all the advice!