[2020 entry and beyond] Guide to Bonded Medical Places

[TKAO]

From when I checked UQ's website a while back, it seemed that I needed to put both a CSP and BMP in QTAC to be eligible for both compared to other universities where BMPs are automatically considered. However, I'm checking the website now and I don't seem to see such a requirement for eligibility to BMP. Was this changed? If not, could someone please provide a link that says I need to fill in both? Thanks

Are you checking UQ's website or QTAC's preference list? If you are looking at the preference list, there should be two entries, one for bonded and one unbonded. You do need to put in both to be considered. Or you can test it out and take out one but that's on you. I'm pretty sure UQ doesn't explicitly say anything though but QTAC is pretty self explanatory...

 

[dotwingz]

There are still two seperate course codes which you need to put in your preferences on QTAC

Doctor of Medicine admissions

How to apply for the Doctor of Medicine at The University of Queensland. Follow our guide to find entry pathways, learn how to apply, and get ready to study at UQ. Prepare for the challenges and rewards of a medical career.

future-students.uq.edu.au

And its still on their website

 

[honey21]

I'm a little confused about bonded and unbonded for unsw. Do i get the option during the application process, or is it only if I'm made an offer will I see if it's bonded or not?

 

[garmonbozia]

I'm a little confused about bonded and unbonded for unsw. Do i get the option during the application process, or is it only if I'm made an offer will I see if it's bonded or not?

You can indicate whether you'd like to be considered for a bonded spot, an unbonded spot, or both in the application portal.

 

[honey21]

in the map portal or uac?

 

[dotwingz]

in the application portal.

 

[honey21]

ok, thanks

 

[A234]

Hi, I'm just wondering exactly how much UNSW medicine costs without commonwealth support and how much I actually have to pay back the government if I don't go to a rural area after graduation. I have been doing some research and their website it says the indicative cost of the whole course is around $478,820(=$1585*288+student contribution fees), but I've been reading in this forum that people can breach bond by only paying $150,000. (I'm not planning to breach bond or anything, I'm just curious about this possibility...) Can someone clarify if I'm looking at the right thing? Thanks in advance!

Links: Tuition Fees 2021: UNSW Medicine & Health for Domestic Fee Paying Students

 

[Eleanor Rigby]

On the Dept. of Health website it states: 'In exchange for a medical place, once they have graduated, bonded participants agree to work in an area of workforce shortage for one to six years. The length of time depends on your agreement and is called the return of service period.'
I thought the RoS is three years. Am I mistaken?

 

[Deleted member 35034]

On the Dept. of Health website it states: 'In exchange for a medical place, once they have graduated, bonded participants agree to work in an area of workforce shortage for one to six years. The length of time depends on your agreement and is called the return of service period.'
I thought the RoS is three years. Am I mistaken?

https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/reformed-bonded-programs

* See key features of the reformed program.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

On the Dept. of Health website it states: 'In exchange for a medical place, once they have graduated, bonded participants agree to work in an area of workforce shortage for one to six years. The length of time depends on your agreement and is called the return of service period.'
I thought the RoS is three years. Am I mistaken?

It is currently three years. It has been one and six in the past and there are very likely students (now doctors in some cases) who still have RoS to complete based on those older terms, hence the more blanket reference in that paragraph.

 

[velvetthundr]

Hi, I've received offers from JMP bonded (UNE) and UQ unbonded, and I'm trying to decide between them. Can anyone offer any advice as to how choosing one or the other might impact my future career as a doctor (e.g. impact on internships, career opportunities, specialties, etc)?

 

[chinaski]

It won't impact on your future career as a doctor, aside from the requirement and associated restrictions of fulfilling a bond.

 

[botselenium]

Would the BMP’s RoSO have any (even the slightest) effect on one’s career progression? If so, could you please elaborate? Thank you in advance!

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Would the BMP’s RoSO have any (even the slightest) effect on one’s career progression? If so, could you please elaborate? Thank you in advance!

Have you read through the replies to this thread? This is discussed multiple times with various points of view offered.

 

[bigyikes]

Would the BMP’s RoSO have any (even the slightest) effect on one’s career progression? If so, could you please elaborate? Thank you in advance!

There are so many things that can affect one's career progression, it's not linear for every single person and its silly to think that a return of service would be the only thing (if it even does) that affects career progression. I hope everyone on this forum starts to slowly get this.

 

[ucatboy]

There are so many things that can affect one's career progression, it's not linear for every single person and its silly to think that a return of service would be the only thing (if it even does) that affects career progression. I hope everyone on this forum starts to slowly get this.

No-one here's arguing that BMP is the only thing that affects one's career progression but rather it's another thing that could potentially do so. And when given the choice between that possibility and none at all (i.e. choosing between CSP at uni x and BMP and uni Y), one should consider their choices carefully: course duration, location, BMP/non-BMP, among other things. They're all important considerations.

 

[bigyikes]

No-one here's arguing that BMP is the only thing that affects one's career progression but rather it's another thing that could potentially do so. And when given the choice between that possibility and none at all (i.e. choosing between CSP at uni x and BMP and uni Y), one should consider their choices carefully: course duration, location, BMP/non-BMP, among other things. They're all important considerations.

I don't disagree that a BMP is a big deal and has a big impact on your future, but it's just a little bit funny that people are thinking about their specialist training when they haven't even started medical school yet

 

[botselenium]

Hi all, thank you for responses. I was just wondering what effect a RoSO would have a few years down the track. Although I haven’t started the medical degree, I feel it would be unwise not to have thought about this. Suppose you hypothetically had an offer close to home but it was bonded, and another offer that required moving out but it was unbonded. In that case I just wanted your thoughts on what sort of an effect the RoSO would have on your life and relationships etc. But it’s alright, I’ll just read through the past posts. Thank you for your time.

 

[dotwingz]

I don't disagree that a BMP is a big deal and has a big impact on your future, but it's just a little bit funny that people are thinking about their specialist training when they haven't even started medical school yet

I dont think its too preposterous to consider what factors would affect a career trajectory. I think a bonded agreement is damaging to a career (as does the AMA and just about every article ever published about the scheme) and its an important consider literally worth more than 100k.