Auckland OLY1 chat - archive

[Hopefully]

@agentlucerne and @Hopefully , thank you for informing me of this!

I'm fine with the cost being either $35 or $40, it's still cheaper than buying it from UBS haha.

Last year they sold them at the G092 lab, so I thought they'd be selling them there again... you've helped me save some time

Cheers!!

You're welcome, plm8123 ^_^
By the way, I'm curious. You are currently studying MBChB, right? Then I gather you would already have a lab coat? I apologise if I'm being too nosy... -_-

However, the only thing is that UBS = no time spent in a long queue. Plus they seem to open for a longer time than the SciSpace place, because when I went there around 3:35pm on Tuesday (for a second time), they told me they had closed shop for today, and asked me to come back tomorrow >_<

Does anyone know if they will still be selling lab coats and safety glasses at SciSpace on Friday? The details in the announcement and email were quite vague as to the dates... I just want to make sure I don't miss out on making a purchase as I have a lab on the first Monday morning!

 

[plm8123]

[MENTION=13946]Hopefully[/MENTION]:

Yep, I'm starting MBCHB this year. I used a lab coat last year that I got given to me for participating at the IBO, so it's somewhat dear to me (and I didn't really want to accidentally stain it) - unfortunately last year I tried to buy a lab coat on the Friday before semester started and the Chem department ran out of my size haha

 

[Hopefully]

[MENTION=13230]plm8123[/MENTION] - First in, first served, eh? Congrats on getting in haha, and good luck for this year!

 

[Worshipppp]

Hey Guys! My first year at Biomed at auckland this year, i chose INTBUS 151G as my Gen Ed in my 2nd semester, just wanted to know if this gen ed paper is ''acceptable'' in terms of applying for Medicine next year?

I heard you couldnt choose COMPSCI as a gen ed paper if you wanted to do med the year after?

 

[4everAlone]

Hey Guys! My first year at Biomed at auckland this year, i chose INTBUS 151G as my Gen Ed in my 2nd semester, just wanted to know if this gen ed paper is ''acceptable'' in terms of applying for Medicine next year?

I heard you couldnt choose COMPSCI as a gen ed paper if you wanted to do med the year after?

If you look at this website Schedules for Undergraduate Programmes | General Education | Regulations you will see that you can choose any general ed paper from schedules A, B, C, G, and H.

You will find then that INTBUS151G is fine, but computer science isn't.

 

[Tupac4life]

I so second that. I can recall one of the lecturers saying that you needed to read the pages specified on the Musculoskeletal section of the MEDSCI 142 course guide for the exam as well as learning the course guide but the fact is everything in the exam was virtually from the course guide.

even tortora is a waste of money.

I'll repeat this again right now- you don't need the textbooks for the following papers:
- biosci 101, 106, 107
- chem 110
- medsci 142
the coursebooks, which you most definitely DO need, are more than sufficient.

I don't know about physics or pop health as I didn't take those papers.

 

[narwhalbacon]

Hi everyone!

I've been trawling through this site for ages and finally decided to sign up. Its such a trove of valuable info!

Anyway, I've just got a question about gen ed - I've enrolled for phil105g but am having serious second thoughts.
I chose it because firstly, I've always been interested in philosophy (although from what I hear, phil105g is pretty basic deconstruction of arguments which isn't quite the sort of philosophy that I'm interested in...) and secondly, I heard it was one of the easier gen eds to get a good mark in, along with econ151g. The sources of information were a combination of people I talked to and various websites; one being MSO. However, in the past couple of weeks, I've been told to stay away from phil105g, so I'm faced with a conflict of sorts. I was quite certain about taking the paper earlier and didn't think twice when I was adding everything to my enrollment cart on SSO but I've been getting so much negative information about it lately and with econ151g spaces filled up, I don't really know what to do.

Should I just stick with phil105g or risk going on the waiting list for econ151g or choose a completely different gen ed entirely?

Also, if anyone has taken phil105g, what do the assignments entail? Will it be marked quite subjectively, as in an essay to develop ideas? Or is it more just reiteration of what has been covered in lectures?

Any replies would be hugely appreciated!

Thank you

 

[4everAlone]

Hi everyone!

I've been trawling through this site for ages and finally decided to sign up. Its such a trove of valuable info!

Anyway, I've just got a question about gen ed - I've enrolled for phil105g but am having serious second thoughts.
I chose it because firstly, I've always been interested in philosophy (although from what I hear, phil105g is pretty basic deconstruction of arguments which isn't quite the sort of philosophy that I'm interested in...) and secondly, I heard it was one of the easier gen eds to get a good mark in, along with econ151g. The sources of information were a combination of people I talked to and various websites; one being MSO. However, in the past couple of weeks, I've been told to stay away from phil105g, so I'm faced with a conflict of sorts. I was quite certain about taking the paper earlier and didn't think twice when I was adding everything to my enrollment cart on SSO but I've been getting so much negative information about it lately and with econ151g spaces filled up, I don't really know what to do.

Should I just stick with phil105g or risk going on the waiting list for econ151g or choose a completely different gen ed entirely?

Also, if anyone has taken phil105g, what do the assignments entail? Will it be marked quite subjectively, as in an essay to develop ideas? Or is it more just reiteration of what has been covered in lectures?

Any replies would be hugely appreciated!

Thank you

1. As long as you pass the paper, your marks in it don't mean jack**** so if you're interested in the topic you may as well stay with it. As I've said before, some people find this very very easy, and some people find it hard. Either way, the workload is about a tenth of any other OLY1 paper so you should have no troubles at least passing it.

2. Apparently the format has changed from when I did it (we had 2 tests and one assignment, I think last year there were 3 tests?!) but I never found the marking to be subjective. No developing ideas in an essay, just restating names and definitions (and perhaps a reason why you believe your answer to be correct) was all you really put down.

Hope that helps at least a little. When you hit 5 posts you can private message me your email address and I can send you examples of the coursework if you'd like

 

[narwhalbacon]

1. As long as you pass the paper, your marks in it don't mean jack**** so if you're interested in the topic you may as well stay with it. As I've said before, some people find this very very easy, and some people find it hard. Either way, the workload is about a tenth of any other OLY1 paper so you should have no troubles at least passing it.

2. Apparently the format has changed from when I did it (we had 2 tests and one assignment, I think last year there were 3 tests?!) but I never found the marking to be subjective. No developing ideas in an essay, just restating names and definitions (and perhaps a reason why you believe your answer to be correct) was all you really put down.

Hope that helps at least a little. When you hit 5 posts you can private message me your email address and I can send you examples of the coursework if you'd like

Thank you, 4everAlone! (Can you tag people on MSO...? Not too sure haha)

Well on the uni website, it says ' two tests (worth 25% and 35% of the total grade, respectively) and an assignment (worth 40% of the total grade)'... so... hoping there isn't another test :bored:

And the thing is, the system is changing this year. Today was the Science faculty orientation and the biomed people went to Grafton where they said that from this year, they are using GPA of the 4 core papers for interview selection and then all 8 papers for med selection (whereas I gather it was the other way round for all previous years). So technically, now all the papers count towards something. Another thing is that they are trying to make the selections from health science and biomed more or less even, or at least more even than this year's cohort which apparently has extremely few health science students.

 

[4everAlone]

Thank you, 4everAlone! (Can you tag people on MSO...? Not too sure haha)

Well on the uni website, it says ' two tests (worth 25% and 35% of the total grade, respectively) and an assignment (worth 40% of the total grade)'... so... hoping there isn't another test :bored:

And the thing is, the system is changing this year. Today was the Science faculty orientation and the biomed people went to Grafton where they said that from this year, they are using GPA of the 4 core papers for interview selection and then all 8 papers for med selection (whereas I gather it was the other way round for all previous years). So technically, now all the papers count towards something. Another thing is that they are trying to make the selections from health science and biomed more or less even, or at least more even than this year's cohort which apparently has extremely few health science students.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT?!?! I am totally not ok with them changing the selection process to that. They are changing a fair system to an unfair system if they're truely doing that which makes no sense at all. When we get back on monday I'm gona have to get the low down on all of this...pretty much ignore my previous advice then

[MENTION=753]lordgarlic[/MENTION] have you heard rumours about this?

 

[italianopalo]

They want to make admissions from biomed and health sci even but they're making all eight papers count? Does not compute...

 

[4everAlone]

They want to make admissions from biomed and health sci even but they're making all eight papers count? Does not compute...

Exactly...what also doesn't make sense though is WHY they want to get more health science students into med...what could possibly motivate them so much as to discriminate the admission process?

The reason more biomed students get into med is not because health science is harder or anything like that...it's purely because a much higher percentage of 'intelligent' students do biomed (plus many more students do biomed than health science period). This honestly makes no sense whatsoever and I struggle to believe the dean's office is silly enough to do this...?!

 

[narwhalbacon]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT?!?! I am totally not ok with them changing the selection process to that. They are changing a fair system to an unfair system if they're truely doing that which makes no sense at all. When we get back on monday I'm gona have to get the low down on all of this...

Yea, I agree. I mean in my case, I was prepared to work really hard this year and give everything >9000% so it doesn't exactly change a lot regarding the effort and energy I was planning to put in, but it does make the year ahead considerably more daunting nevertheless. Today was pretty much bad news after bad news :cry: I also went to the Avancetutors seminar which confirmed what I said above...

pretty much ignore my previous advice then

I hope you don't mean your advice about taking phil105g as a gen ed!!!! *Panic*

 

[4everAlone]

Yea, I agree. I mean in my case, I was prepared to work really hard this year and give everything >9000% so it doesn't exactly change a lot regarding the effort and energy I was planning to put in, but it does make the year ahead considerably more daunting nevertheless. Today was pretty much bad news after bad news :cry: I also went to the Avancetutors seminar which confirmed what I said above...



I hope you don't mean your advice about taking phil105g as a gen ed!!!! *Panic*

Yeah that's fair enough. I just think that now the health science students have an unfair advantage over the biomed students. I suppose that's just my opinion though (or some people might believe it to be the other way around). Not a fan of avancetutors at all but I'm gona stay away from that topic for now!

If you're a reasonably logical person and enjoy that sort of thing then definitely still do it. This change does give the generically easy gen-ed papers a bit of a boost though!

 

[narwhalbacon]

They want to make admissions from biomed and health sci even but they're making all eight papers count? Does not compute...

Yea. That's also exactly what the guy at Avancetutors was saying. Though I'm not entirely certain as to the reliability of Avancetutors as a source of info. They seem quite genuine...?

 

[Sophi]

Totally new to this haha, but just saw this and had to comment. I was also in the lecture today and heard this about all marks counting in the end and had a bit of a panic, i dont know if any questions was asked to double check this, and i didnt hear anything about the healthscience thing (?) But he kinda just said the whole 'all your marks count' thing a bit randomly, not as though he was telling us that it was a new thing, more like ohh yes have a plan B, because you will be competing with people with 8 A+s and once you get an interview, after final selection all marks count, he didnt introduce it as a new thing, more like that is the way it usually happens. There seems to be no mention of it on the fmhs website too. I think if it is true it is completely unfair as now the playing ground is uneven as biomed is a harder course to get into then health science and some people who are naturally better at essay/pophlth topics then sciences chose biomed because they wanted to do more sciences and didnt think the other papers mattered mark wise.
Really hoping he just said the 8A+ thing to scare us.

 

[4everAlone]

Totally new to this haha, but just saw this and had to comment. I was also in the lecture today and heard this about all marks counting in the end and had a bit of a panic, i dont know if any questions was asked to double check this, and i didnt hear anything about the healthscience thing (?) But he kinda just said the whole 'all your marks count thing' it a bit randomly, not as though he was telling us that it was a new thing, more like ohh yes have a plan B, because you will be competing with people with 8 A+s and once you get an interview, after final selection all marks count, he didnt introduce it as a new thing, more like that is the way it usually happens. There seems to be no mention of it on the fmhs website too. I think if it is true it is completely unfair as now the playing ground is uneven as biomed is a harder course to get into then health science and some people who are naturally better at essay/pophlth topics then sciences chose biomed because i wanted to do more sciences and i didnt think the other papers mattered mark wise.
Really hoping he just said the 8A+ thing to scare us.

Who gave this talk? Was it someone with the initials JM or RB? I really want to double check this because if true its a massive massive change. If it was the usual 'getting into med is impossible none of you will make it rah rah rah' speech that he said it in then maybe this has all been taken way out of context...either way I'll have a chat to the admissions office on monday and clear all this up

 

[narwhalbacon]

Who gave this talk? Was it someone with the initials JM or RB? I really want to double check this because if true its a massive massive change. If it was the usual 'getting into med is impossible none of you will make it rah rah rah' speech that he said it in then maybe this has all been taken way out of context...either way I'll have a chat to the admissions office on monday and clear all this up

It was pretty much the 'you have no chance so think of a plan B' talk with the 'all 8 papers will be taken into account' slotted in. I can't remember his initials but he was in the obstetrics and gynecology field?

 

[italianopalo]

Must be A/Prof Chamley then.

 

[Sophi]

haha yeah same here, somehow his name dissapeard from my mind, all i remember is that he use to do the medicine interviews a few years back.
Eventhough i already have my plan b,c,d,e,f and g, i would like to hope it is not true, just so I dont have to stress about it haha. Though it really did feel that the lecture was more to sell biomedical sciences as opposed to medicine. Looks the rumours were true though, 230 places now instead of 191 last time I checked, that statistic was written on the slide haha, not just said aloud, so hopefully it has some truth too it!

Must be A/Prof Chamley then.

Yup thats definitely the one!