Auckland OLY1 chat - archive

[Rotors]

Plus misconceptions of the BHSc and negative perceptions of it deter people from choosing it over BSc

Interesting, are you able to elaborate?

Word of advice, I have found the BHSc pretty challenging as the concepts of Population health are relatively new to me and this course is heavily based on population health. It a much more 'wordy' course than BSc Biomed in my opinion.

The POPHLTH courses which are (from my understanding) [all] essay based would be a big change, it takes skill and experience to craft a decent piece of accademik ryeting but in saying that, science is more factual and black and white than an essay; if you don't know what an s3 orbital is or the difference between glycogenolysis and gluconeogensis then its not like you can just pull some crap out your arse and spew it down onto paper and maybe get a C for it like you can in some of the non science based stuff

With that said, its a nice change from having to slog through 3 years of stuff like organic chemistry for the pharmacology major of biomed

CHEM110 scares me ... a lot, BIOSCI107 looks fairly easy (basic cellular biology and excitable tissue shouldn't be that hard, covered a lot of that stuff in Normal Body Function and Cardiology papers), MEDSCI142 I am unsure about but it's middle of the road and POPHLTH111 eh we'll see

The nice thing about the BSc (Biomed) is it's all based in City and Grafton (except for POPHLTH 111) so no trekking out to bloody Tamaki for the other pop health papers!

 

[Rey]

Interesting, are you able to elaborate?

Just off the top of my head, here are some reasons that I know people rejected BHSc (even some ex-BHSc students):

- "It's boring"
- "its completely irrelevant to medicine" or "it won't prepare you at all for medicine"
- "It's way harder than bio/chem/physics"
- "I heard its all about Maori people" (I suppose this one is partially true)
- "BHSc grads I know work at [enter retail or fast food place]" (same could be said for many BSc undergrads really)
- "It doesn't prepare you for med as well as a BSc" (I'm not entirely sure on this one but my med friends from health science say its not an issue)
- "Biomed gives you an advantage in the interview room cause it's the 'harder' course"
- "I heard you write, like, fifty essays or something?"
- "BHSc students are more unfriendly than Biomed ones"

I'm sure there are more lol.

Edit: POPHLTH 111 in held in OGGB on city campus, including tuts (though some maybe elsewhere). Not enough buses to take 2000 students to Tamaki

You will spend one class a semester at Tamaki which means twice a week = 3 hours

 

[Rotors]

LOL amusing, now, if you were doing BHSc at that other "University" in Auckland then maybe, but UOA is like a real University so its not true LOL

Good luck for 106 y'all

 

[Tupac4life]

Last year it came out 2 to 3 days before the MEDSCI 142 test which was on the 12th September. Therefore because the semester recommences on the 9th September a few days before that date hopefully. Mind you I did MEDSCI 201 first semester which Angela Tsai runs as well and she had results out within 8 hours because there were only 120 people in the class. :wacko:(y)

any ideas as to how long it will take for 106 results to come out?

 

[Rey]

Last year it came out 2 to 3 days before the MEDSCI 142 test which was on the 12th September. Therefore because the semester recommences on the 9th September a few days before that date hopefully. Mind you I did MEDSCI 201 first semester which Angela Tsai runs as well and she had results out within 8 hours because there were only 120 people in the class. :wacko:(y)

Only 120 people? Even with those numbers, it's quite a feat. Many of my classes have less than half of those numbers and it can take upto a week to get all our multiple choice tests marked.

Shes just wonder woman, she really goes above and beyond

 

[Hopefully]

Our physics came out the morning after the evening test though! So quick (plus they manually marked our MCQ scripts...).

 

[Rey]

Interesting, are you able to elaborate?

The POPHLTH courses which are (from my understanding) [all] essay based would be a big change, it takes skill and experience to craft a decent piece of accademik ryeting but in saying that, science is more factual and black and white than an essay; if you don't know what an s3 orbital is or the difference between glycogenolysis and gluconeogensis then its not like you can just pull some crap out your arse and spew it down onto paper and maybe get a C for it like you can in some of the non science based stuff

Hmmm..... I wouldn't rely to much on BSing your way through a POPLHLTH essay. From what I've been told by markers, it is fairly easy to tell when someone has no idea what they are talking about. I've certainly noticed markedly worse results in those situations. In any case the average for POPLHLTH essays and tests are usually around C to B (if you are lucky), depending on the format and difficulty. They do scale so don't worry too much about those averages.

I love BHSc not only because of the things we learn but because of the strong bonds we all have. Being together all the way out in Tamaki fosters those bonds and helps so much with getting to know the department (A few of the senior lectures know me personally). Comes in handy in first year where people are typically quite isolated and don't really make strong friendships.

I've said before that the coordinators and lectures are wonderful resources for support. I felt like my POPLHLTH papers were easier to do well in not because of the workload but because the academic staff really do encourage and help beyond what you'd expect (if you ask nicely of course ).

It's also wonderful if you are looking for some contacts in the public health field to help you get a job after you graduate. My Asian Health lecturer managed to score three jobs and a further few some internships for our grads.

 

[hca12]

any pro tips for medsci from past OLYers?

 

[Rotors]

any pro tips for medsci from past OLYers?

In general or for something specific?

I can probably help you with cardiovascular and respiratory if you specific questions

 

[Rey]

any pro tips for medsci from past OLYers?

Depends on what you like really.

Read the WHOLE A&P book. Make some flash cards.

Definetly have a look at past papers.

 

[hca12]

In general or for something specific?

I can probably help you with cardiovascular and respiratory if you specific questions

ok thanks are we expected to learn all the hormones for blood pressure control (including the ones he didnt mention in class), i hear malpas can be quite mean with his questions haha. was last years test difficult? becuase they don't release past paper mcq's its difficult to get an idea of how difficult it will be. the few they release online seem relatively straightforward but i get a sense that they are easier ones that don't truly represent the difficulty of previous years exams ...

 

[Rotors]

You can find old exams on ExamBase through the Library website

As for hormonal control of blood pressure you need to know the following: Renin-angiotensin-aldosterone system, adrenaline and noradrenaline, ADH and ANP. There are some others too like dopamine and some of the ephidrines but they are probably outside the scope of Medsci.

Have a look in T&D page 820-821

And if you're a bit slow on the uptake of teh written word like me, here's a picture

 

[Hopefully]

That's an awesome diagram you drew up, [MENTION=13819]Rotors[/MENTION]!

Hm, though looking at it, Malpas didn't seem to mention half of what's on there...

 

[BC mso]

yeah, that is a really good detailed diagram, however i will go out on a limb and say that a large portion of that will not be accessed in the first terms test regarding cardiovascular physiology, most of it will be covered when we do renal physiology in the 2nd half of semester

 

[mew2]

Random question, but does any of the med students know who was on the interview panel during their interview? Any of the medsci142 lecturers? Im just curious as to who u get to chat to haha

 

[Rotors]

Random question, but does any of the med students know who was on the interview panel during their interview? Any of the medsci142 lecturers? Im just curious as to who u get to chat to haha

I believe IIRC I read somewhere on teh ether of this here internetz one is from the Faculty of Medicine (i.e. a Physician, in the past I have seen a Surgeon, Psychiatrist and I think a GP?) and one other person from the community or university outside the FOM

 

[Rey]

Random question, but does any of the med students know who was on the interview panel during their interview? Any of the medsci142 lecturers? Im just curious as to who u get to chat to haha

Rod Jackson and some of the other POPLHLTH lecturers have featured on the list in past years from what I've heard.

FMHS staff are quite close.

 

[BC mso]

Rod Jackson and some of the other POPLHLTH lecturers have featured on the list in past years from what I've heard.

FMHS staff are quite close.

Haha, what a win if you get THE Rod Jackson interviewing you

 

[Rey]

Haha, what a win if you get THE Rod Jackson interviewing you

He is awesome of course. Great to discuss topics he is very passionate about (like butter ). I'm not quite sure what he is like as an interviewer but you should be comfortable if you get him because he is very easy to speak with.

 

[hca12]

i reckon prof faull would be a great interviewer