ayeayeplease
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Thank you so much. I wonder if they will use bands such as some UK schools for SJT as in giving out interview invites to only Bands 1 and 2.
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General Interview Discussion and Questions: 2022 Entry
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IQ ™
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About the SJT,
(WSU Medicine Q/A) from the Dean of Medicine
at 21:43, she mentions the part about SJT being scored as bands, which is not the way AU UCAT scores SJT. This makes me think that SJT won't be used but purely speculation at this point. Hoping for it to not be counted as I didn't give it a serious attempt
Purplefolly
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Likewise.
This is also interesting - CSU Medicine Information Night, May 2021 -
At 14:50, the slide includes all 5 subtests and the Course Director says "You will be sitting 5 subtests - please take all 5 subtests equally seriously".
This is also interesting - CSU Medicine Information Night, May 2021 -
At 14:50, the slide includes all 5 subtests and the Course Director says "You will be sitting 5 subtests - please take all 5 subtests equally seriously".
I’m honestly so frustrated and, tbh, confused with why some unis are so stubbornly obtuse regarding their entry criteria. Why not just be up front rather than dropping cryptic clues in the middle of webinars? I don’t understand what it achieves? A sense of mystery and intrigue??!!! Griffith Dent also get my side-eye this admissions round for their largely undisclosed, weird preferencing system which potentially disadvantages school leavers and doesn’t even make any real sense, imo!
So did we, generally speaking. And we’ve honestly never seen evidence before that any uni has ever factored it into interview invite eligibility (despite regular rumours to the contrary), so historically I think it holds true. But it appears* GU have factored it into interview invites eligibility this year (admittedly the first year of them doing this. It’s possible they have specifically requested this info from QTAC.
*and I believe they have said something similar in email or phone correspondence to applicants
After we gave WSU credit for publishing the 75% Interview + 25% UCAT ratio for offers WSU is talking crap again!!
(Edited by LMG to add: I completely agree with this sentiment!!)
The lady at 21:43 says SJT is different (to the other sections) because it doesn't give you a numerical score. She's describing the UCAT UK to Australian applicants!
WSU website is saying the UCAT sections are weighted differently. Whereas using Overall UCAT score means unweighted. WSU seem to enjoy contradicting themselves. I have little faith in WSU Admissions team understanding their own selection criteria in depth, how can they be trusted to carry them out correctly.
(Edited by LMG to add: I completely agree with this sentiment!!)
SmoothCriminal
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I'm pretty certain they can access this information and whilst it is uncommon for medical/dental schools when applying for certain scholarships or programs such as Co-Op preferences are considered [Ie : I believe it's top 2/3 for Co-Op etc as a minimum]
See this stats > https://www.ucat.edu.au/media/1470/interim-summary-statistics_september.pdf
The score profile of SJT is quite similar to that of VR, whereas DM is quite different to QR/AR. Why would she single out SJT to say it's different.
SmoothCriminal
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Ah, I was just saying that because dotwingz mentions in their UCAT percentile calculator that SJT does not follow a normal distribution curve. Also in the 2019 statistics (https://www.ucat.edu.au/media/1371/ucat-anz-2019_summary-stats.pdf), it can be seen that the max SJT is 759, compared to the maxima of 890-900 in other subtests. Although unlikely, I was just mentioning the possibility of them scaling up the SJT score, instead of just adding the aggregate scores.
I think I saw a posted SJT score in the high 800s this year.
Here it is, 860 > 2022 Entry Interview Invites DATA COLLECTION
Purplefolly
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Thank you for this comment. I'm feeling a little validated tbh. I agree. No rhyme or rhythm to their admissions processes.
I also spoke with UNSW MESO today as to whether interviews will be held before or after ATARs were released - and they were even more vague and confusing -
- "atm, we have not finalised interview dates yet - we will try to do some interviews in December but most will happen in January"
- "we will publish dates on the website, hopefully this week, but by the end of next week"
- "if we use estimated ATARs, you will not need to do anything, we will contact schools directly".
On another note, for anyone interested in USYD DDMD/Dentistry, this Webinar is on Wednesday for school leavers:
Webinar Registration:
Topic: Double Degree Medicine and Dentistry ProgramDescription: Assessment Day is an important part of the application process into the Bachelor of Science and Doctor of Medicine, Bachelor of Arts and Doctor of Medicine and Bachelor of Science and Doctor of Dentistry. Join us for this webinar to learn about the invitation process, how attendance takes place and what you can expect to happen on the day and receiving your post-assessment results. Though the specific assessment itself changes for each intake, this webinar will outline the general format of the day to help you feel prepared. Also hear from current students who have undertaken the process themselves
Time: Oct 20, 2021 04:00 PM in Canberra, Melbourne, Sydney
Welcome! You are invited to join a webinar: Double Degree Medicine and Dentistry Program. After registering, you will receive a confirmation email about joining the webinar.
Assessment Day is an important part of the application process into the Bachelor of Science and Doctor of Medicine, Bachelor of Arts and Doctor of Medicine and Bachelor of Science and Doctor of Dentistry. Join us for this webinar to learn about the invitation process, how attendance takes place...
Once it happens you'll know, the invite thread will light up with interviews.
This would be my guess too.
I'm guessing the dean doesn't even 100% know the formula back and front. It would have been someone else's job somewhere to do it she also says in the webinar that the way they have selected students in recent times has had good results so why change it?
I'd put my money on the formula not being changed at all this year if I was a betting man.
naian616
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nope, they could be sent out any time this week though
Emerald2002
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How long should MMI responses be? If the panel is 10 minutes long should we be talking for 10 minutes?!? I’m just under 6 minutes for most of my responses at the moment.
Generally, they are 8 minutes. But if your interview has 10 minute panels, then ideally, it isn't bad to leave some time at the end (maybe 1-2 minutes), in case you think of anything else to say which you may forgotten to have mentioned. I think the only issue with leaving 4 minutes is that they will be 4 minutes of silence (I presume) after your answer the questions, which will definitely feel awkward, unless you can elaborate on any of your answers.
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