General Medicine Entry Discussion and Advice Requests

[jinjja21]

What are my chances of getting into Flinders with 99.95 (UES) and 2560 UCAT considering that for uni adl - "A minimum 50% of the non-rural school leavers interviewed will be from South Australia" ? Medicine interviews for domestic applicants | Search Knowledge Base | Future Students | University of Adelaide

Would flinders allocate more spots for SA applicants?

 

[Doradoraaa]

What are my chances of getting into Flinders with 99.95 (UES) and 2560 UCAT considering that for uni adl - "A minimum 50% of the non-rural school leavers interviewed will be from South Australia" ? Medicine interviews for domestic applicants | Search Knowledge Base | Future Students | University of Adelaide

Would flinders allocate more spots for SA applicants?

wow i wasn't aware that at least 50% of adl interviews were given to sa applicants!

 

[Crow]

What are my chances of getting into Flinders with 99.95 (UES) and 2560 UCAT considering that for uni adl - "A minimum 50% of the non-rural school leavers interviewed will be from South Australia" ? Medicine interviews for domestic applicants | Search Knowledge Base | Future Students | University of Adelaide

Would flinders allocate more spots for SA applicants?

They’re separate unis with separate admissions criteria. We’ve seen nothing from Flinders to suggest they’re applying a SA quota like Adelaide so you can assume they’re doing the same as every other year rather than changing things up this year.

A 99.95 is promising but it will come down to the UCAT “cutoff” required for those with 99.95 ATARs and it’s possible that it won’t be enough.

Best of luck regardless

 

[ucatboy]

wow i wasn't aware that at least 50% of adl interviews were given to sa applicants!

It's the reason why percentiles required for SA applicants dropped by about 20 (~70th) and percentiles required for interstate applicants increased by 4 (95th).

 

[Doradoraaa]

not too sure if this is the correct location to post but just an fyi, my friend's friend who is an international student residing in adl got a flinders interview offer BUT she DID NOT sit the ucat.

 

[Crow]

not too sure if this is the correct location to post but just an fyi, my friend's friend who is an international student residing in adl got a flinders interview offer BUT she DID NOT sit the ucat.

Domestic and international entry selection processes and criteria are vastly different!

 

[ucatboy]

Domestic and international entry selection processes and criteria are vastly different!

Just the mere fact that said friend had to attend an interview for Flinders speaks volumes

 

[Rkyer]

The 75/25 is the most recent information we have so it’s the most reliable in my eyes... I haven’t seen anything more official to contradict it.

Figured I'd try my luck and ask both WSU and CSU for some clarification and actually got a reply back! Seems like it's still Interview + UCAT used to make final offers. Can only guess but I assume it's probably still the 75/25 split?

 

[Crow]

Figured I'd try my luck and ask both WSU and CSU for some clarification and actually got a reply back! Seems like it's still Interview + UCAT used to make final offers. Can only guess but I assume it's probably still the 75/25 split?
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Ah yes, trust WSU to give a deliberately vague answer

 

[nb]

They’re separate unis with separate admissions criteria. We’ve seen nothing from Flinders to suggest they’re applying a SA quota like Adelaide so you can assume they’re doing the same as every other year rather than changing things up this year.

A 99.95 is promising but it will come down to the UCAT “cutoff” required for those with 99.95 ATARs and it’s possible that it won’t be enough.

Best of luck regardless

I was wondering, would someone with a higher aggregate be ranked higher with same ATAR rank? So for example, if someone had 89 aggregate (equating to 99.95 ATAR) and 90 aggregate (also 99.95 ATAR), and both have the same UCAT score (lets say 3000), then would the 90 aggregate be ranked higher than 89 aggregate despite them having the same ATAR?

 

[A1]

Figured I'd try my luck and ask both WSU and CSU for some clarification and actually got a reply back! Seems like it's still Interview + UCAT used to make final offers. Can only guess but I assume it's probably still the 75/25 split?

I'll throw into the mix these "official" replies from WSU:

- MMI/UCAT equal weighting 50/50 > UCAT Score Use by Med and Dent Schools

- "After the MMIs are marked, if there are many students tied, they will then assess based on their UCAT scores" i.e. 100% MMI then UCAT tiebreak > UCAT Score Use by Med and Dent Schools

- Then there's the 75/25 WSU said to AMC during their accreditation audit.

 

[A1]

I was wondering, would someone with a higher aggregate be ranked higher with same ATAR rank? So for example, if someone had 89 aggregate (equating to 99.95 ATAR) and 90 aggregate (also 99.95 ATAR), and both have the same UCAT score (lets say 3000), then would the 90 aggregate be ranked higher than 89 aggregate despite them having the same ATAR?

I remember seeing one or two schools (Monash I think) saying they use Aggregate rather than the ATAR number itself.

 

[Crow]

I was wondering, would someone with a higher aggregate be ranked higher with same ATAR rank? So for example, if someone had 89 aggregate (equating to 99.95 ATAR) and 90 aggregate (also 99.95 ATAR), and both have the same UCAT score (lets say 3000), then would the 90 aggregate be ranked higher than 89 aggregate despite them having the same ATAR?

I don’t think we’ve ever seen a situation where there were two Flinders applicants with the same ATAR and UCAT but only one landed an offer - they’d more than likely just both receive a place offer seeing as, at worst, Flinders could just take the extra place away from the graduate entry quota if necessary.

 

[Rkyer]

I'll throw into the mix these "official" replies from WSU:

- MMI/UCAT equal weighting 50/50 > UCAT Score Use by Med and Dent Schools

- "After the MMIs are marked, if there are many students tied, they will then assess based on their UCAT scores" i.e. 100% MMI then UCAT tiebreak > UCAT Score Use by Med and Dent Schools

- Then there's the 75/25 WSU said to AMC during their accreditation audit.

Thanks for linking those posts! Hadn't seen them before. I wish uni's were more open or at least consistent with their responses as this has such a big impact on UAC preference ordering.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Thanks for linking those posts! Hadn't seen them before. I wish uni's were more open or at least consistent with their responses as this has such a big impact on UAC preference ordering.

I’m interested to know how this impacts your UAC preferencing? I get that it’s frustrating (unfortunately, the one consistent thing about uni Med admin is that it’s really inconsistent!), but if you preference in the order of, well, your preferences, then you’ll get your top pick if that’s what you qualify for, regardless of how it’s determined. Unless I’m missing something?

ETA: you don’t need to preference in the order you self-determine to be your ‘best’ chance, just preference in your preferred study option order.

 

[Rkyer]

I’m interested to know how this impacts your UAC preferencing? I get that it’s frustrating (unfortunately, the one consistent thing about uni Med admin is that it’s really inconsistent!), but if you preference in the order of, well, your preferences, then you’ll get your top pick if that’s what you qualify for, regardless of how it’s determined. Unless I’m missing something?

ETA: you don’t need to preference in the order you self-determine to be your ‘best’ chance, just preference in your preferred study option order.

Well I was thinking in terms of my rural friend who has quite a low UCAT (58%tile) and an academic rank of 93 ATAR + 6.2 GPA. My friend is happy to go to any of JMP, JPM and UNSW's clinical schools but ideally would like to be placed in either Newcastle, Western Sydney or Sydney. As JMP offers are 100% on interview performance their plan is to have that be their first as their low UCAT score is no longer considered. They're still not sure on how they would order JPM and UNSW. I realise that trying to game the system like this isn't recommended and it's impossible to accurately self gauge interview performance (my friend felt roughly the same about all of them). My friend understands that they could end up bonded in Armidale or not even receive an offer at all but would rather their fate be firstly primarily dictated by interview performance alone. Is this logic terribly flawed? I was actually just going to post in the admissions centres preferencing to ask for advice about this.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

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It’s not that ‘trying to game the system’ isn’t recommended, it’s that it really doesn’t change much. Either you friend is eligible for an offer or they’re not, no amount of gaming will change that. The only thing that will is the way they’ve preferenced, and even then, only if they’re eligible for two or more offers in the same round. If they’re only eligible for one, they’ll get that one regardless of preference order or interview/GPA/UCAT score use in the determination.

Unless your friend is trying to avoid a BMP? Or a particular location (Port Mac/Armidale?). Is that what you mean? If so, it’s virtually impossible to guarantee to the point where it’s basically a non-issue with preferencing because you can’t do anything about it as things currently stand. Definitely have a read in the preferencing thread because it has been explained multiple times there already.

ETA: and relying on self-reported interview performance is highly unlikely to be useful, imo.

 

[saba5678]

Could someone please explain why SATAC has my Y12 rank as 99.95 when I did not get 99.95 (i am on a gap year and got 99.55). Has something gone wrong or is this just some kind of convention?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Could someone please explain why SATAC has my Y12 rank as 99.95 when I did not get 99.95 (i am on a gap year and got 99.55). Has something gone wrong or is this just some kind of convention?View attachment 4198

Are you eligible for UES?

 

[saba5678]

Are you eligible for UES?

I don't think so. I'm interstate, non-rural, not really disadvantaged in any meaningful way I can think of. I went to a public school but it's ranked pretty high so I don't think I'm disadvantaged in that sense either