General Medicine Entry Discussion and Advice Requests

[Crow]

I don't think so. I'm interstate, non-rural, not really disadvantaged in any meaningful way I can think of

It may be based off whether your high school qualified you for the scheme. It's the most logical explanation here. Adjustment factors - Resources for students

 

[DrDrLMG!]

I don't think so. I'm interstate, non-rural, not really disadvantaged in any meaningful way I can think of

These are the criteria used for adjustments by SATAC (interstate students are also eligible for a sub-set). It is added automatically/you don't have to apply. It could be this?

Adjustment factors – SATAC

SATAC processes applications for courses offered at participating universities and higher education providers in South Australia and the Northern Territory.

www.satac.edu.au

 

[saba5678]

If I receive early round offers for some courses, will accepting them have any effect on whether I get later offers for other courses? Sorry if this is a very obvious ._.

 

[ucatboy]

Could someone please explain why SATAC has my Y12 rank as 99.95 when I did not get 99.95 (i am on a gap year and got 99.55). Has something gone wrong or is this just some kind of convention?View attachment 4198

You must have done either a second language (+2) OR methods (+2) OR specialist`maths (+2), as that gives bonus points (up to a maximum of 4). Year 12 Rank = selection rank after bonuses are adjusted for. Bachelor of Health and Medical Sciences at Adelaide qualifies for subject bonus points, medicine unfortunately does not.

Edit: it is unlikely to be UES/equity-related adjustment factors because a. they probably haven't been assessed yet and b. they are not displayed on your SATAC page.

 

[A1]

If I receive early round offers for some courses, will accepting them have any effect on whether I get later offers for other courses?

No the early offers have no effect on later offers, provided you don't accidentally leave the early ones at higher prefs in the later rounds.

 

[Crow]

Edit: it is unlikely to be UES/equity-related adjustment factors because a. they probably haven't been assessed yet and b. they are not displayed on your SATAC page.

Ah, I didn’t pay close enough attention to the specific course that had the inflated ATAR attached to it!

 

[leekk]

Not sure if this is the place to ask this, I'm sitting replacement uni exams in January after the first round of med offers come out, does this affect whether my offer will come out or not? I've fully completed a year of uni already but this semester's replacement exam period got pushed to January, would the universities wait till I get my mark for this semester before making an offer or use my GPA from my first year and a half?

 

[Doradoraaa]

They’re separate unis with separate admissions criteria. We’ve seen nothing from Flinders to suggest they’re applying a SA quota like Adelaide so you can assume they’re doing the same as every other year rather than changing things up this year.

A 99.95 is promising but it will come down to the UCAT “cutoff” required for those with 99.95 ATARs and it’s possible that it won’t be enough.

Best of luck regardless

Here is an email response I received from Flinders -

Offers to the Bachelor of Clinical Sciences/ Doctor of Medicine will go to the top 27 applicants based on an Entry score combining ATAR (90%) and a UCAT-derived score (10%) which will be based on results from four sections of the UCAT ANZ test (Verbal Reasoning, Decision Making, Quantitative Reasoning and Abstract Reasoning), with each section equally contributing to the UCAT ANZ-derived score. South Australian students are not prioritised.

 

[A1]

Offers to the Bachelor of Clinical Sciences/ Doctor of Medicine will go to the top 27 applicants

Last two years Flinders made 60-70 offers each year though. These numbers were as reported by SATAC so didn't include direct top-ups (if there were any). I guess Flinders rely on declines to prune down to 27.

 

[Doradoraaa]

Last two years Flinders made 60-70 offers each year though. These numbers were as reported by SATAC so didn't include direct top-ups (if there were any). I guess Flinders rely on declines to prune down to 27.

27 is pretty damn low isnt it?

 

[ucatboy]

27 is pretty damn low isnt it?

The undergraduate Flinders cohort has always been a small one, post-grads join them in year 3 which boosts numbers a bit.

 

[JL538]

Idk if this is the right place to ask but - is there really any difference between case-based learning (CBL) and problem-based learning (PBL) or are they the same thing (small groups - members do individual research/learning on the scenario - come together to share findings).

Also, just to confirm as virtually every med school uses them - Monash uses CBL/PBL too right?

Thanks

 

[ucatboy]

Idk if this is the right place to ask but - is there really any difference between case-based learning (CBL) and problem-based learning (PBL) or are they the same thing (small groups - members do individual research/learning on the scenario - come together to share findings).

Also, just to confirm as virtually every med school uses them - Monash uses CBL/PBL too right?

Thanks

I'm pretty sure they're all different names for what amounts to the same thing - UAdel calls it CBL. Monash uses the PBL model too, but they call it ICL (integrated case learning).

 

[E_N]

Not sure if these topics entirely fit into this thread, but hopefully someone can answer them for me!

1. Tools needed for medical school? I imagine basic things like a laptop, stationery, some notebooks, lab coats etc. but is there anything else you should have (equipment-wise) to be adequately prepared for med school?
2. Structure of a typical med school day? I've always been a little curious about this, as it doesn't seem to be such a rigid structure (timetable, with times blocked out for certain classes and lunch breaks) like high school. Could someone give me an outline of what you would typically do in a day-to-day basis (mainly just lectures or some tutorials etc?) and how much spare time you have at the end of the day?
3. Study environment and time spent studying? Where do students typically study (at their dormitory, in the library etc.) and are there certain study groups you can join or free tutorials you can attend? What timeframe do med students typically spend studying each day and do they make time for extra-curricular activities like sport (or other social activities)?
4. Are there any surprises you encountered upon entering medical school? i.e. anything you weren't expecting to happen or weren't prepared for - just to give me an idea if there will be any bumps along the road!

Thanks again.

 

[Crow]

Not sure if these topics entirely fit into this thread, but hopefully someone can answer them for me!

1. Tools needed for medical school? I imagine basic things like a laptop, stationery, some notebooks, lab coats etc. but is there anything else you should have (equipment-wise) to be adequately prepared for med school?
2. Structure of a typical med school day? I've always been a little curious about this, as it doesn't seem to be such a rigid structure (timetable, with times blocked out for certain classes and lunch breaks) like high school. Could someone give me an outline of what you would typically do in a day-to-day basis (mainly just lectures or some tutorials etc?) and how much spare time you have at the end of the day?
3. Study environment and time spent studying? Where do students typically study (at their dormitory, in the library etc.) and are there certain study groups you can join or free tutorials you can attend? What timeframe do med students typically spend studying each day and do they make time for extra-curricular activities like sport (or other social activities)?
4. Are there any surprises you encountered upon entering medical school? i.e. anything you weren't expecting to happen or weren't prepared for - just to give me an idea if there will be any bumps along the road!

Thanks again.

This will all depend on the medical school you attend. If you are lucky enough to land a place offer in a couple years' time, your med school will inform you of any materials you need ahead of time as well as the general schedule.

 

[dotwingz]

Not sure if these topics entirely fit into this thread, but hopefully someone can answer them for me!

1. Tools needed for medical school? I imagine basic things like a laptop, stationery, some notebooks, lab coats etc. but is there anything else you should have (equipment-wise) to be adequately prepared for med school?
2. Structure of a typical med school day? I've always been a little curious about this, as it doesn't seem to be such a rigid structure (timetable, with times blocked out for certain classes and lunch breaks) like high school. Could someone give me an outline of what you would typically do in a day-to-day basis (mainly just lectures or some tutorials etc?) and how much spare time you have at the end of the day?
3. Study environment and time spent studying? Where do students typically study (at their dormitory, in the library etc.) and are there certain study groups you can join or free tutorials you can attend? What timeframe do med students typically spend studying each day and do they make time for extra-curricular activities like sport (or other social activities)?
4. Are there any surprises you encountered upon entering medical school? i.e. anything you weren't expecting to happen or weren't prepared for - just to give me an idea if there will be any bumps along the road!

Thanks again.

1. Computers, Apps, and Other Study Resources
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2/3 depends alot on the individual medical school and your own habits. There is plenty of time to pursue co curricular and its encouraged. Some colleges provide tutoring sessions, but people also form their own small groups to study together, or even study alone.

Realistically, youre a long way away to be worrying about this. My piece of advise is to chill out and relax until these questions start to matter.

 

[threefivetwo]

Not sure if these topics entirely fit into this thread, but hopefully someone can answer them for me!

1. Tools needed for medical school? I imagine basic things like a laptop, stationery, some notebooks, lab coats etc. but is there anything else you should have (equipment-wise) to be adequately prepared for med school?
2. Structure of a typical med school day? I've always been a little curious about this, as it doesn't seem to be such a rigid structure (timetable, with times blocked out for certain classes and lunch breaks) like high school. Could someone give me an outline of what you would typically do in a day-to-day basis (mainly just lectures or some tutorials etc?) and how much spare time you have at the end of the day?
3. Study environment and time spent studying? Where do students typically study (at their dormitory, in the library etc.) and are there certain study groups you can join or free tutorials you can attend? What timeframe do med students typically spend studying each day and do they make time for extra-curricular activities like sport (or other social activities)?
4. Are there any surprises you encountered upon entering medical school? i.e. anything you weren't expecting to happen or weren't prepared for - just to give me an idea if there will be any bumps along the road!

Thanks again.

Med student vlogs on YouTube are an engaging and nice place to start. Have you tried finding those answers yourself? In the interview, it’s nice to demonstrate that you’ve done independent research in order to be more knowledgable about the profession, a skill that’s also important at university.

In regards to 1, I heard you might need a stethoscope. I’m not sure though, best to use your own judgement!

 

[E_N]

Med student vlogs on YouTube are an engaging and nice place to start. Have you tried finding those answers yourself? In the interview, it’s nice to demonstrate that you’ve done independent research in order to be more knowledgable about the profession, a skill that’s also important at university.

In regards to 1, I heard you might need a stethoscope. I’m not sure though, best to use your own judgement!

Thanks threefivetwo. I have done a bit of research myself including YouTube student vlogs and surfing uni webpages etc. It is a bit hard however when you are from a city without a med school (and are in a pandemic, where you can't travel much or make contact with uni students at all)... I come to this website as a resource to ask people questions which I don't know the answers to, in hope that kind people will share their opinions/experience with me!

 

[Crow]

Electron_Ninja just a heads up - if you have multiple questions and are unsure if each of them fit into a single thread, you should post your questions separately so that each one fits into the appropriate thread, rather than put them all in an unrelated one in a single post. It's hard for us to streamline information and keep information relevant to the thread otherwise.

 

[chinaski]

I think a lot of these questions are more geared around a general theme of "what is life like after high school ends and I am expected to operate with more autonomy and initiative rather than having everything mapped out for me?". Basically it's just a learning curve - the transition from high school into university or working life is more difficult for some than others, but everyone goes through some period of readjustment. With regards to study, you figure out what works best for you, rather than being taught what is right for you, or just following everyone else blindly. You meet new people. You'll like some of them, you won't like all of them, and not all of them will like you, and that's fine. It's the time in your life that you learn to be an adult - enjoy it.