General Medicine Entry Discussion and Advice Requests

[threefivetwo]

Unfortunately, most unis don’t accept this pathway. The only ones that do are JPM, JMP, JCU, UNSW, and Bond.

UQ, Griffith, USyd, Monash, UMelb, UTas, Flinders, and UWA don’t accept that pathway, and Curtin* and UAdel only do for their own students.

*Curtin open it up to students from other unis with completed degrees.

ETA: also, I don’t recall JMP still using ATAR beyond about 0.75 FTE? Is that new?

Call it selection bias from me being a NSW applicant I've deleted my post as the information's mainly incorrect. PorneliusHubert peep this reply

 

[Pandaaz]

Unfortunately, most unis don’t accept this pathway. The only ones that do are JPM, JMP, JCU, UNSW, and Bond.

UQ, Griffith, USyd, Monash, UMelb, UTas, Flinders, and UWA don’t accept that pathway, and Curtin* and UAdel only do for their own students.

*Curtin open it up to students from other unis with completed degrees.

ETA: also, I don’t recall JMP still using ATAR beyond about 0.75 FTE? Is that new?

Ok thank you, do you think it's definitely worth giving the ucat another shot during my degree next year? Also I was wondering if a GPA is a ranking like the ATAR as I saw that it's harder to get a good GPA in competitive courses such as biomed and how difficult it would be to get the GPA required for post graduate medicine compared to an ATAR 99 as I have gotten mixed responses

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Ok thank you, do you think it's definitely worth giving the ucat another shot during my degree next year? Also I was wondering if a GPA is a ranking like the ATAR as I saw that it's harder to get a good GPA in competitive courses such as biomed and how difficult it would be to get the GPA required for post graduate medicine compared to an ATAR 99 as I have gotten mixed responses

Absolutely! As long as the fee to sit the exam again is within your reach, it’s definitely worth re-doing! Despite my doom and gloom comment about not many unis offering this option, all it takes is an opportunity from one of them! I applied as a non-standard for 2018 entry and was fortunate to be successful several times over. Plus you have the benefit of moving towards a completed degree which opens up graduate entry (of which there are a similar number of places on offer to the whole of undergrad). There’s plenty of info here at MSO (and on the uni websites) about the GPA (and/or ATAR) requirements for non-standard entry. Have a search through and an investigate and if you still have questions, post them in the dedicated non-standard entry thread.

 

[saba5678]

Hi, would starting an undergrad degree at UAdel put me in the 50% SA sub-quota and hence increase my chances of getting into UAdel med? Would it benefit me at all? I am currently a NSW gap year student (school leaver)

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hi, would starting an undergrad degree at UAdel put me in the 50% SA sub-quota and hence increase my chances of getting into UAdel med? Would it benefit me at all? I am currently a NSW gap year student (school leaver)

Nope. It’s for school leavers only.

 

[saba5678]

Nope. It’s for school leavers only.

What about in terms of transferring? Would I have a good chance?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

What about in terms of transferring? Would I have a good chance?

Nope, it’s hella competitive. You’d have a chance, but not a good chance.

 

[saba5678]

Nope, it’s hella competitive. You’d have a chance, but not a good chance.

I remember seeing someone on this forum get in through that pathway with a ~70 ucat score (although I can't seem to find it anymore...).

edit: closest thing I could find but I can't find any evidence of it

 

[dotwingz]

There are only 10 places set aside for students of UAdel... in my eyes not worth it all to move to Adelaide from NSW to attempt to take this pathway.

 

[Crow]

I remember seeing someone on this forum get in through that pathway with a ~70 ucat score (although I can't seem to find it anymore...).

edit: closest thing I could find but I can't find any evidence of it
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The lowest UCAT that we've had report an interview this year through that pathway is 77th. That then needs to be accompanied by an outstanding interview and GPA as UCAT is weighted relatively low in the final offer calculation. It's a big risk to move interstate for a narrow chance at gaining a spot through this pathway. Naturally up to you, of course.

 

[saba5678]

The lowest UCAT that we've had report an interview this year through that pathway is 77th. That then needs to be accompanied by an outstanding interview and GPA as UCAT is weighted relatively low in the final offer calculation. It's a big risk to move interstate for a narrow chance at gaining a spot through this pathway. Naturally up to you, of course.

Are there any other unis that give a greater likelihood of being able to transfer to med?

 

[Crow]

Are there any other unis that give a greater likelihood of being able to transfer to med?

Not through undergraduate entry.

ETA: The odds might be better with JMP through their new graduate priority scheme, but apparently that might be getting scrapped anyways, and it's in a (in my opinion) non-ideal degree that has poor employment prospects if you miss out on medicine at the end of it.

 

[saba5678]

Not through undergraduate entry.

Ignoring what state I'm in, what then would be the best uni to start my undergrad and give me the greatest likelihood of getting into med (in the shortest amount of time and non-ffp)?

 

[Mana]

Ignoring what state I'm in, what then would be the best uni to start my undergrad and give me the greatest likelihood of getting into med?

There is no specific advantage from any specific university to give you any advantage into medicine overall other than the aforementioned tiny subquotas.

As stated many times before, you should figure out plan B and take the first step towards that assuming you never get in, and then you can use literally whatever degree to apply for medicine as a nonstandard or grad entry.


(Did you even read my common pitfalls post?)

 

[sevun]

Could anyone please summarise the differences in course structure of the JMP, UNSW and Monash med programs?

For example, does one of the med programs start off with two solid years of theory and the rest transitioning into clinical work? I heard that UNSW has a large clinical component.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Could anyone please summarise the differences in course structure of the JMP, UNSW and Monash med programs?

For example, does one of the med programs start off with two solid years of theory and the rest transitioning into clinical work? I heard that UNSW has a large clinical component.

Unfortunately none of us have been to all three schools in order to compare them! If you look at the Monash and JMP specific threads, I know past students have written about the course structure individually. There may be something similar in the UNSW forum, too, but I know for sure there is for Monash and early years JMP.

 

[ejndvkjedv]

Hi I'm doing the IMSCP (Med direct pathway) at UWA and was wondering if I can technically do GAMSAT and apply to postgrad Med at UMelb or Usyd at the end of my 3rd year at UWA before I start the 'proper' MD section of the degree?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hi I'm doing the IMSCP (Med direct pathway) at UWA and was wondering if I can technically do GAMSAT and apply to postgrad Med at UMelb or Usyd at the end of my 3rd year at UWA before I start the 'proper' MD section of the degree?

I definitely know of people who’ve done so from provisional entry at UQ and Griffith, so I don’t think UWA would be any different.

 

[Rkyer]

Does JPM/WSU offer places based entirely on interview or a split of UCAT + interview? I know in the 2017 courses document it specified 75% interview + 25% UCAT for final place offers but the more recent documents don't mention anything specific.

 

[Crow]

Does JPM/WSU offer places based entirely on interview or a split of UCAT + interview? I know in the 2017 courses document it specified 75% interview + 25% UCAT for final place offers but the more recent documents don't mention anything specific.

The 75/25 is the most recent information we have so it’s the most reliable in my eyes... I haven’t seen anything more official to contradict it.