Griffith Griffith Medicine: Medical Science/MD Provisional Entry Q&A

[Crow]

has anyone heard of 99.65 getting into griffith or university of sunshine coast medicine? or is there a chance that the atar requirement would drop from 99.85/99.80?? idk if i should apply or not

No harm in applying but take it as a pleasant surprise if you receive an offer rather than an expectation.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

No harm in applying but take it as a pleasant surprise if you receive an offer rather than an expectation.

And I’d say (if you’re short on spaces) go USC rather than Griffith directly. Would you agree Crow?

 

[harryputtar80]

figures are increasing instead of decreasing but who knows
The deadline is over as well (30th sep) so I dont get the point of the question

deadline is in dec for both courses so that's why im asking

And I’d say (if you’re short on spaces) go USC rather than Griffith directly. Would you agree Crow?

yeah i have applied for usc just cos it has a slightly lower atar requirement but griffiths course is shorter so im reconsidering. the issue is the number of preferences - if i want to add griffith im gonna have to remove another course. but yeah with a 99.65 idk if it's worth even putting griffith on my list, and removing another likely course that I won't be able to add back into my preferences in case i change my mind

 

[DrDrLMG!]

deadline is in dec for both courses so that's why im asking


yeah i have applied for usc just cos it has a slightly lower atar requirement but griffiths course is shorter so im reconsidering. the issue is the number of preferences - if i want to add griffith im gonna have to remove another course. but yeah with a 99.65 idk if it's worth even putting griffith on my list, and removing another likely course that I won't be able to add back into my preferences in case i change my mind

I realise it’s shorter, but that’s not gonna help you if the ATAR cut off is 99.80.

If you’ve only got one spot, I’d personally put USC (and hope for the best as it’s still probably unlikely). If you have two spots, then I’d also add Griffith direct. There was a person with 99.80 who didn’t get Griffith direct last year (got USC despite having Nathan and GC preferenced higher). It’s rare (and usually the result of some kind of change in the admission process or number of places on offer) for requirements to drop, tbh.

ETA: that said, this is obviously a decision you have to live with so the above is just my own 2 cents and what I would do based on the info I have access to.

 

[harryputtar80]

I realise it’s shorter, but that’s not gonna help you if the ATAR cut off is 99.80.

If you’ve only got one spot, I’d personally put USC (and hope for the best as it’s still probably unlikely). If you have two spots, then I’d also add Griffith direct. There was a person with 99.80 who didn’t get Griffith direct last year (got USC despite having Nathan and GC preferenced higher). It’s rare (and usually the result of some kind of change in the admission process or number of places on offer) for requirements to drop, tbh.

ETA: that said, this is obviously a decision you have to live with so the above is just my own 2 cents and what I would do based on the info I have access to.

yeah i agree. ik its very unlikely that the atar requirement will drop :/
one thing i dont get is why griffith dentistry uses ucat and mmi while med is just atar? make it make sense lol
thanks for ur advice!

 

[DrDrLMG!]

yeah i agree. ik its very unlikely that the atar requirement will drop :/
one thing i dont get is why griffith dentistry uses ucat and mmi while med is just atar? make it make sense lol
thanks for ur advice!

This is only the second year for dent MMI so maybe they’re monitoring how it goes? Who knows. You can only work with what things are like currently, which unfortunately means very high ATAR requirements.

Good luck!

 

[Unluckydude]

yeah i agree. ik its very unlikely that the atar requirement will drop :/
one thing i dont get is why griffith dentistry uses ucat and mmi while med is just atar? make it make sense lol
thanks for ur advice!

It's like why UQ doesn't require dental applicants to do MMI or why Otago doesn't require med applicants to sit the interview.

 

[2023hopeful]

I know of someone getting an offer to USC with 99.75 last year my child with a 99.65 did not. That person did not take the offer and went to UTAS instead despite being local. It was the length of the course which made the decision for them.

 

[Desperatebaby]

I know of someone getting an offer to USC with 99.75 last year my child with a 99.65 did not. That person did not take the offer and went to UTAS instead despite being local. It was the length of the course which made the decision for them.

Was he/she rural? I was under impression one needed 99.95 to get into Utas if non rural

 

[A1]

if i want to add griffith im gonna have to remove another course. but yeah with a 99.65 idk if it's worth even putting griffith on my list

A little history for anyone interested to know.

For the past 6-7 years Griffith GC cutoff was typically 99.80, Nathan 99.75 (with the occasional 99.70 top-up offers).
In one "special" year, iirc 2020 intake due to the peculiar half-sized QLD Y12 cohort fewer applicants, both GC/Nathan dropped to 99.50.

For the 4 years USC has existed, its cutoffs were 99.35, then 99.50, then 99.60 with a few 99.55 top-ups.

Last year 2022 intake was a disaster. Due to the Covid situation IB was over-generous with their marking churned out double/triple the usual numbers of IB 45/44s. I believe this was responsible for pushing GC/Nathan to 99.85, USC to 99.80.

Hopefully this year if IB comes down to normal GC/Nathan/USC will come back to the typical 99.80/99.75/99.60, less 0.05 for any top-ups.

 

[2023hopeful]

Was he/she rural? I was under impression one needed 99.95 to get into Utas if non rural

Apparently not. I did ask

 

[harryputtar80]

A little history for anyone interested to know.

For the past 6-7 years Griffith GC cutoff was typically 99.80, Nathan 99.75 (with the occasional 99.70 top-up offers).
In one "special" year, iirc 2020 intake due to the peculiar half-sized QLD Y12 cohort fewer applicants, both GC/Nathan dropped to 99.50.

For the 4 years USC has existed, its cutoffs were 99.35, then 99.50, then 99.60 with a few 99.55 top-ups.

Last year 2022 intake was a disaster. Due to the Covid situation IB was over-generous with their marking churned out double/triple the usual numbers of IB 45/44s. I believe this was responsible for pushing GC/Nathan to 99.85, USC to 99.80.

Hopefully this year if IB comes down to normal GC/Nathan/USC will come back to the typical 99.80/99.75/99.60, less 0.05 for any top-ups.

wow okay...that's interesting
didn't know usc's cutoffs were that low in the past, considering it's only based on atar!

 

[DrDrLMG!]

wow okay...that's interesting
didn't know usc's cutoffs were that low in the past, considering it's only based on atar!

The 99.35 was also a bit of an anomaly, tbh, because so many people didn’t even know it was an option in its first year. We had countless people only discovering it existed when they came to MSO for something else and saw us talking about it.

 

[harryputtar80]

The 99.35 was also a bit of an anomaly, tbh, because so many people didn’t even know it was an option in its first year. We had countless people only discovering it existed when they came to MSO for something else and saw us talking about it.

yeah that's fair, but even the 99.60 is still not as high

 

[Crow]

yeah that's fair, but even the 99.60 is still not as high

As would be expected, given the USC pathway is an extra year longer than Nathan and GC.

 

[Ian Naga]

A little history for anyone interested to know.

For the past 6-7 years Griffith GC cutoff was typically 99.80, Nathan 99.75 (with the occasional 99.70 top-up offers).
In one "special" year, iirc 2020 intake due to the peculiar half-sized QLD Y12 cohort fewer applicants, both GC/Nathan dropped to 99.50.

For the 4 years USC has existed, its cutoffs were 99.35, then 99.50, then 99.60 with a few 99.55 top-ups.

Last year 2022 intake was a disaster. Due to the Covid situation IB was over-generous with their marking churned out double/triple the usual numbers of IB 45/44s. I believe this was responsible for pushing GC/Nathan to 99.85, USC to 99.80.

Hopefully this year if IB comes down to normal GC/Nathan/USC will come back to the typical 99.80/99.75/99.60, less 0.05 for any top-ups.

Disaster it was!!! But all indications are that it will be the same this year according to somebody I talked to the other day. Next year it will go back to normal but I don't envy the IB to ATAR conversion scheme for next year as it will be based from this year's results. I hear from reliable sources that plans are underway at Griffith to solve this problem. A solution along the lines of Griffith's dentstry (UCAT, Interviews plus instate bonus). It won't affect next 2 year as they have to give 3 year advance notice but definitely it is coming.

 

[darkbox]

Disaster it was!!! But all indications are that it will be the same this year according to somebody I talked to the other day. Next year it will go back to normal but I don't envy the IB to ATAR conversion scheme for next year as it will be based from this year's results. I hear from reliable sources that plans are underway at Griffith to solve this problem. A solution along the lines of Griffith's dentstry (UCAT, Interviews plus instate bonus). It won't affect next 2 year as they have to give 3 year advance notice but definitely it is coming.

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There is no covid situation this year, why would this IB thing still be an issue?

From the QTAC Website
"A new, common process will be used by all Australian Tertiary Admissions Centres (TACs) to calculate what is known as the IB Admissions Score i.e. the new IBAS. The IBAS will be calculated for all students who obtain their IB in Australia from the 2022 IB November sitting onwards."

"The new IB Combined Rank process will be implemented starting with students sitting the IB Diploma in November 2022, many of whom will be applying for admission to tertiary courses commencing in 2023." Unsure what the following line suggests: "All previous IB graduates, including the May 2022 cohort, will have their combined rank calculated using the previous system (Total Score)."

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[Ian Naga]

The explanation I got was, even though covid did not disrupt studies in Australia, IB studies worldwide got affected. A lot of other countries had no face to face classes etc. Hence, they cut down the number of exams, etc for IB 2021 and 2022 cohorts. But Australian IB students continued to go to F2F classes with minimal disruptions but benefited from these changes and hence performed well compared to the worldwide cohort in 2021. This will repeat in 2022 as well to some extent. Hence the reason IB results got skewed (and likely to get skewed again this year). I believe this year is the last cohort affected. IB to ATAR conversion is based on previous year performance. Too bad for the current Year 11 IMHO. The IBAS is a different beast altogether. Basically, it will force students to compete against each other. They need to try and score better than the other students like the ATAR system. This used to be one of the draws of IB. This new conversion affects group based activities and learning very much IMHO. I would prefer they do not make distinctions within the band. E.g if 73-81 marks is a IB 6, I prefer them not to distinguish between a person getting 73 and another person getting 80. But the new conversion makes this distinction.

 

[STP]

I have a 99.95 ATAR (85%ile UCAT) and am considering Griffith USC Provisional pathway. I don't know too much about the course but I do know its 5.0 GPA and you get entry to the MD program, but is that it? No interview, no GAMSAT, no other requirements? It sounds too good to be true. I'd still imagine a 5.0 GPA would be hard to get/maintain, but is it more effort than what you would put into other 3+3 undergrad courses? Also, since I'm an overseas (domestic) applicant, I'm not sure if I would be equal to a local/rural applicant and how It would affect my chances.

 

[Person]

yep. pretty much spot on. you just have to keep up the 5.0 gpa. if you want non-bonded tho you have to keep a higher one since they decide that at the end of the degree rather than allocate before like UQ. the gpa 5 is probably a bit harder at griffith than at USC or a standard 3yr undergrad considering you a lot more work condensed into 2 years (5 courses per sem).dont think the overseas thing has any effect on selection.