HSFY 2019

[Cathay]

They sent me a similar email this morning. While I appreciate the very low threshold in SJT it seems very pointless, don't you think? The amount of people under 495 will be like 5% of the cohort. The people who did reallyyy well in the UCAT have no reward, and I'm saying this as someone who didn't have particularly high UCAT results.

Not really.

The low threshold reflects the fact that they are using UCAT, an aptitude test, to eliminate those particularly lacking in one of the aptitude areas tested by it. I can't remember where I heard it but I believe the more recent thought is that grades are a better predictor for performance in med school anyway. (I won't even try to address the nebulous "good doctor" concept, which goes well beyond just grades or aptitude - and the uni's core business is really to take your money and the government's money and get you through the course.)

In real life, being really good at something often carries no reward, compared to being adequate.

 

[zurab]

 

[jaejoong]

Does anyone know if those applying through sub-categories also have a waitlist?

 

[Stuart]

Hi,

I think a more reasonable guess would be somewhere between 85% and 93%.

Does anyone know if those applying through sub-categories also have a waitlist?

Hi,

I might be confusing myself with Auckland, but yes, I believe so.

 

[Boeing7478]

Is this the average required for direct entry into med?

 

[zurab]

Is this the average required for direct entry into med?

I'm not sure, this is just a prediction from the admissions office.

 

[Austerus]

Does anyone know if those applying through sub-categories also have a waitlist?

I was told that for MAPAS at least, if you met their grade threshold you had direct entry into medicine with no cap on the amount of places offered. Heard this from many of my friends who had the MAPAS pathway this year.

 

[Stuart]

Hi,

I wouldn't think too much of the prediction. They spend no more than a minute thinking about it. Considering previous cutoffs, it's likely it will be above 85%. I doubt it will go up to 95%.

 

[Boeing7478]

If sub-categories are having unlimited spots, then does that mean the more people they take in under sub-categories, the less spots there are available for people under the general category?

 

[jaejoong]

If sub-categories are having unlimited spots, then does that mean the more people they take in under sub-categories, the less spots there are available for people under the general category?

I believe the unlimited spots is referring strictly to MAPAS (so not all sub-categories)

 

[Stuart]

I believe the unlimited spots is referring strictly to MAPAS (so not all sub-categories)

Hi,

I believe so. There is a bit of politics involved with this matter.

 

[ls12345]

I believe the unlimited spots is referring strictly to MAPAS (so not all sub-categories)

I think so too, as there is a waitlist for rural

 

[Bootleg]

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[Stuart]

Wait, so just curious if there were 200 MAPAS HSFY students meeting the grade threshold, does that automatically mean that they take all the places?

Hi,

Theoretically, yes. However that will never happen in practice.

 

[Noom]

How many total spots are there for HSFY? Isn't that a bit unfair?

 

[circe191]

What happens if a number of people have the same average? Do they look past 2dp? Or is there some other consideration too?

 

[Noom]

What's the threshold for MAPAS?

 

[jaejoong]

How many total spots are there for HSFY? Isn't that a bit unfair?

It really isn't, it really pays to research on this topic and look at the reason why they are trying to get more people from the MAPAS sub-category (I don't think I can cover it myself), unfortunately, many MAPAS student have to deal with one too many students implying they don't 'deserve' their spot - so it really pays to be more aware.
(i hope I made some sense, defs not too good with words )

Edit: here's a good article Maori medical students: 'It was just blatant racism'

 

[Noom]

It really isn't, it really pays to research on this topic and look at the reason why they are trying to get more people from the MAPAS sub-category (I don't think I can cover it myself), unfortunately, many MAPAS student have to deal with one too many students implying they don't 'deserve' their spot - so it really pays to be more aware.
(i hope I made some sense, defs not too good with words )

Yeah I get that there is a difference if you're MAPAS but I meant the unlimited spots thing. Would've thought there was a limit or something.

 

[jaejoong]

Yeah I get that there is a difference if you're MAPAS but I meant the unlimited spots thing. Would've thought there was a limit or something.

I guess, but there wouldn't be like 200 students who pass the threshold either

Edit: similar to how people freak out if the rural cut off will end up being higher than the general (it's highly unlikely and not worth stressing about it)