Interview offers & dates 2016-17

[ImGreyt]

We are both from Victoria, however I think my friend had ERC stream as an option (this was not mentioned in the interview invite email).

Did you get 50+ in all sections? I know of at least one person that got an interview offer with much lower atar and umat but they were vce, also they did not have erc. Another reason could be if you didn't do chem or English but I'm sure you probably knew about this so idk

 

[Kenny4]

As mentioned here I didn't receive an email from Monash yesterday, when other IBDP graduates did. I spoke to someone in admissions at Monash yesterday and was told that an email would be sent out informing applicants that they had not got an interview, but have a friend who also did not receive an email yesterday, so I am wondering if this is in fact true.

Does anyone know for sure whether Monash are sending emails to unsuccessful applicants?

 

[ImGreyt]

As mentioned here I didn't receive an email from Monash yesterday, when other IBDP graduates did. I spoke to someone in admissions at Monash yesterday and was told that an email would be sent out informing applicants that they had not got an interview, but have a friend who also did not receive an email yesterday, so I am wondering if this is in fact true.

Does anyone know for sure whether Monash are sending emails to unsuccessful applicants?

I know that they have sent out at least one rejection email to an unsuccessful vce applicant. I'm not sure if they sent them to all but this was sent on the same day as the interview offers were sent out. I assume it would be the same for ib

 

[Kenny4]

Did you get 50+ in all sections?

Two sections were 50+ but one section was just under.

Another reason could be if you didn't do chem or English

I did both Chem (SL) and English (HL). Got 7 in both.

 

[shadowduke]

Two sections were 50+ but one section was just under.



I did both Chem (SL) and English (HL). Got 7 in both.

I think that a likely reason is that you are borderline with 99.85 and 82%. Your umat is quite low, and that's letting you down. However, they haven't sent out rejections emails just in case some interview offers are declined and more spots become available.

 

[ImGreyt]

Two sections were 50+ but one section was just under.

I know I'm the past they have not given offers to high scorers because they have a 50-50-50 cut off and so this may still be the case. However, I'm sure you'll get an offer to another uni if not Monash.

 

[ImGreyt]

Also on Monash website it says that ib applicants will be sent an offer by the 6th of Jan so unless it's in your junk mail I'd say your umat has let you down unfortunately, but keep your hopes up for interstate unis considering you awesome atar

 

[david88]

For UNSW 77%ile is quite low (considering median for a place was 96%ile!) so I think you'll need interview score maybe 80%ile+

If you are interstate to Monash I'm not sure if you will even get an interview.
If Vic local, I'm reluctant to estimate now with Monash offering interviews all over the place

Thanks for your help. I did apply for EAS (financial) though, would this have any effect since I already achieved a 99.95? Or would I receive a 100+ ATAR? Or would I receive some bonus points of some sort and be able to do slightly worse in the interview?

I'm asking because my friend with a 99.9 ATAR and 79th percentile UMAT did not receive an interview offer and according to the MSO cutoffs he should have? So was I benefited from EAS then? I never received any correspondence from UNSW acknowledging my EAS though.. really confused here

 

[umat2016]

If I (ATAR 99.85) got offers from Griffith and JCU, which one should I go? What is the failure rate of Human Skill for medicine of Griffith? Is it risky to take Griffith than JCU?

 

[Mana]

If I (ATAR 99.85) got offers from Griffith and JCU, which one should I go? What is the failure rate of Human Skill for medicine of Griffith? Is it risky to take Griffith than JCU?

If I didn't live in either of the locations (i.e. I had to move regardless) then I would always take an offer for undergraduate medicine over a provisional offer. While the fail rate of students from provisional medicine getting into grad medicine (such as at Griffith) is almost zero, I would minimise that risk even further and just take the undergraduate course (JCU) over the provisional course (Griffith).

There are quite a few other advantages to doing an undergraduate course over a provisional one which I could outline given my experience doing both an undergrad med course and a provisional one, including, but not limited to, the fact that you have a longer duration to study medicine (and therefore gain more clinical experience before you commence internship), that your cohort is almost all going to be people your age (therefore it might be easier to relate to other people and make good friends), and that your cohort will be largely made up of very high scoring students (i.e. the undergrad med cohorts are made of students who did well in year 12, while the grad med cohorts are made of some provisional students but mostly of students who didn't do well enough in year 12 to get into medicine and thus had to go the graduate entry pathway).

See the link in my signature (the pitfalls #3 one) for an analogy of why this is the case.

 

[umat2016]

If I didn't live in either of the locations (i.e. I had to move regardless) then I would always take an offer for undergraduate medicine over a provisional offer. While the fail rate of students from provisional medicine getting into grad medicine (such as at Griffith) is almost zero, I would minimise that risk even further and just take the undergraduate course (JCU) over the provisional course (Griffith).

Looking at the QTAC statistics, the number of student at Griffith is very limited, 24 in Nathan and 16 in Gold Coast in 2016 entry. Is it better to take the one with more students?

 

[Mana]

Looking at the QTAC statistics, the number of student at Griffith is very limited, 24 in Nathan and 16 in Gold Coast in 2016 entry. Is it better to take the one with more students?

There are advantages to a large cohort and advantages to a small cohort. Larger cohorts mean you have more people to connect with and also the cohort is larger based on the fact that it might have the services to support more students. Smaller cohorts mean that you might have a closer connection with the other students and with the other staff (but if you really can't get along with one of the other students in a very small cohort as was experienced by some of my coursemates this year it can be a problem).

However, I think the main deciding factor should be location. Nathan campus is in the south of Brisbane, while the Gold Coast is, well, on the Gold Coast. Given that you would spend two years in this location, the decision should really just be whether you want to live in Brisbane for the next two years or on the Gold Coast. There are also advantages and disadvantages to both campuses, which you can find on the Griffith website.

Rent is likely to be cheaper on the Gold Coast as well but do your research!

Relevant links:
Gold Coast facilities and services
Nathan facilities and services

 

[A1]

Thanks for your help. I did apply for EAS (financial) though, would this have any effect since I already achieved a 99.95? Or would I receive a 100+ ATAR? Or would I receive some bonus points of some sort and be able to do slightly worse in the interview?

I read through the EAS webpages still don't understand how it applies. Thing to note is UAC gives out EAS bonus points but it's up to the unis whether/how much they accept for certain courses. All UNSW Med says is "ACCESS (EAS) - A scheme for students who have experienced long-term educational disadvantage in high school. Some of the places offered under this scheme will be in the categories of Bonded Medical Places."
> Special Admissions Schemes - Local & Rural | Medicine

I'm asking because my friend with a 99.9 ATAR and 79th percentile UMAT did not receive an interview offer and according to the MSO cutoffs he should have?

Cutoffs in that MSO table are only approximate, looks like I will have to adjust the UMAT scores up a few marks for this year. But I suggest your friend to check with Unsw in case he was like @jebhank123 who was supposed to get an interview but did not receive the emails.

 

[Wendy]

In terms of EAS i have more info i think. If you applied for EAS you should have gotten an eligibility letter via UAC in mid December ish which listed all the unis in nsw and whether you are eligible for bonus points under EAS in each uni.
Unfortunately upon calling UNSW and the other universities you will find that they don't tell applicants their bumped up atar even if they have been bumped up, this is similar for seas at monash. However if it was stated in the letter that you were eligible for sspecial considerations under EAS at a certain uni you atar would have been bumped up by at least one point. You can't find out how many points, but if you are eligible at least one would have been applied. E.g. for example someone's atar was 96.35, for being an eligible applicant of EAS at unsw their bumped up atar is at least 97.35
This is roughly how it works according to a guy at unsw. Hopefully this helps. If there's anything fishy about this please call the uni themselves.
If you did not receive an EAS eligibility letter in mid December. I got mine on the eighteenth to be specific, your application may have not been processed properly, but like call up and check if you have any questions.
Hopefully this helps

 

[ImGreyt]

E.g. for example someone's atar was 96.35, for being an eligible applicant of EAS at unsw their bumped up atar is at least 97.35

I thought they did it by aggregate points not atar points

 

[ImGreyt]

Also I doubt the eas would make your atar go above 99.95 since you've basically already proven that your financial disadvantage didn't affect your learning and 99.95 is the top

 

[shadowduke]

Hello @A1. what would you say are the chances for someone with 99.95 atar and 95th percentile at unsw/monash/ade?

 

[Wendy]

Also I doubt the eas would make your atar go above 99.95 since you've basically already proven that your financial disadvantage didn't affect your learning and 99.95 is the top

That is correct, bumped up atars don't go above 99.95. So if you got 99.95, having EAS doesn't really help. However as for the addition of aggregate points, that's what seas does in Victoria. You get bonus aggregate points. However it is different in states like nsw and queensland where full atar points are awarded. Look if you want to check if this info is still correct you can always call them just to make sure

 

[Wendy]

Also I doubt the eas would make your atar go above 99.95 since you've basically already proven that your financial disadvantage didn't affect your learning and 99.95 is the top

As for this comment. I think that getting a 99.95 does not mean your schooling has not been influenced by certain factors. This person might have had much more potential even though they got the highest possible atar. I think many people will say that atar is just a number and everyone has potential beyond that number. But unfortunately bumped up atars are still atars and the maximum atar is 99.95. Hence no bumped up atar goes beyond 99.95

 

[ImGreyt]

As for this comment. I think that getting a 99.95 does not mean your schooling has not been influenced by certain factors. This person might have had much more potential even though they got the highest possible atar. I think many people will say that atar is just a number and everyone has potential beyond that number. But unfortunately bumped up atars are still atars and the maximum atar is 99.95. Hence no bumped up atar goes beyond 99.95

Yeah I get that but probably many of the 99.95ers could of got higher if there was the chance