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Non-standard Medicine Entry

H2. said:
Much appreciated. Thank you A1.
Further questions:
- Do you apply to the universities the same way. E.g. through UAC, QTAC etc. at the end of the year?
- Are there also interviews for this pathway? And are they the same format as for standard entry applicants?
- Are you considering these requirements from an interstate POV? I'm a Vic student. If so, am I mistaken or does it seem the requirements are much more convenient than for standard entry applicants?
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1. Yes, you apply around Aug-Sept. Your GPA will be taken at end of year.

2. All four mentioned schools include an interview. The marks indicated above are for getting an interview.

3. Don't know what you mean. The process is the same as for Y12s, just with ATAR replaced by GPA where applicable.
 
Thank you for your answers A1 and LMG. Sorry about question 3, I'll try to clarify.
- I would have thought that an interstate student would need to meet tougher requirements to get into these universities than non-interstate students, as unis tend to prioritise their own. Is this not the case?
- I feel like it would be much easier to achieve a 7 GPA than the ATAR equivalent. Hence, the work-reward ratio is greater for non-standard applicants? Am I mistaken with this?
 
H2. said:
Thank you for your answers A1 and LMG. Sorry about question 3, I'll try to clarify.
- I would have thought that an interstate student would need to meet tougher requirements to get into these universities than non-interstate students, as unis tend to prioritise their own. Is this not the case?
- I feel like it would be much easier to achieve a 7 GPA than the ATAR equivalent. Hence, the work-reward ratio is greater for non-standard applicants? Am I mistaken with this?
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These 4 schools don't favour instate students. WSU does give advantages to GWS students, JCU to local students through the rurality rating, but the dividing line is not instate/interstate.

The requied GPAs are not much different to ATAR. JCU 6.2 is comparable to typically 99+ to have a reasonable chance. JMP 4.7+ vs 94.3+. WSU 6.2+ but your 97.95 can be used instead etc.
 
Hi,
If I am studying computer science in UNSW but intending to apply again for med in UWS next year, how does UWS calculate results from UNSW? I believe UNSW doesnt use GPA, but just a mark with HD,D,C, P etc?

Thanks
 
Shar88 said:
Hi,
If I am studying computer science in UNSW but intending to apply again for med in UWS next year, how does UWS calculate results from UNSW? I believe UNSW doesnt use GPA, but just a mark with HD,D,C, P etc?

Thanks
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UAC calculates GPA for the unis. Ignore the numeric marks, give HD 7, D 6 etc, add them up then average.
 
I know that med transfers are difficult but does anyone know if it’s possible to resit the UCAT in 2020 during studying at Bond and then apply as a non-standard applicant to WSU/JMP/UNSW/JCU? This would mean you restart your medical degree but is it even possible?
 
=Medhopeful= said:
I know that med transfers are difficult but does anyone know if it’s possible to resit the UCAT in 2020 during studying at Bond and then apply as a non-standard applicant to WSU/JMP/UNSW/JCU? This would mean you restart your medical degree but is it even possible?
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Not for UNSW and WSU, as I believe both have rules about entering via non-standard pathways when you have already started a medical degree at an Aus/NZ university. For WSU in particular, you would have to apply for a transfer, which are only granted in exceptional circumstances.

You can do this for JMP.

I'm not sure for JCU.
 
LMG! said:
Not for UNSW and WSU, as I believe both have rules about entering via non-standard pathways when you have already started a medical degree at an Aus/NZ university. For WSU in particular, you would have to apply for a transfer, which are only granted in exceptional circumstances.

You can do this for JMP.

I'm not sure for JCU.
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Does WSU catogorise you as a transfer or non standard applicant if I want to apply after 1 year of griffith provisional med( so still in the BMedScie degree)?
 
I just finished HSC last year with a 96.2 ATAR and enrolled in Deakin's Optometry accelerated 3.5 year course hoping to get into JMP/WSU non standard entry for medicine. My course is different than other courses especially with trimesters meaning my school year wouldn't finish until around February. Would that affect my chances of applying this year for them to get my GPA for 1 full year saying I got a good UCAT mark?
 
UKat said:
I just finished HSC last year with a 96.2 ATAR and enrolled in Deakin's Optometry accelerated 3.5 year course hoping to get into JMP/WSU non standard entry for medicine. My course is different than other courses especially with trimesters meaning my school year wouldn't finish until around February. Would that affect my chances of applying this year for them to get my GPA for 1 full year saying I got a good UCAT mark?
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No, it won't affect your chances. If you don't have 1FTE, I think both will use your ATAR, and yours is above their requirements. WSU will continue to use your ATAR if, for whatever reason, your GPA doesn't meet their cut off.
 
Hi
I'm not sure if this question has already been asked but if your a non-standard applicant into undergraduate medicine do unis still consider your ATAR? After some researching many of the unis say that you need a minimum atar of 95 even if your a non-standard applicant?
Thanks!
 
aspiring_doc_2 said:
Hi
I'm not sure if this question has already been asked but if your a non-standard applicant into undergraduate medicine do unis still consider your ATAR? After some researching many of the unis say that you need a minimum atar of 95 even if your a non-standard applicant?
Thanks!
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UNSW use your ATAR 50/50 with GPA regardless of how long ago you did year 12.

WSU use ATAR or GPA (whichever is higher) up until the point you gave a completed degree, then they just use GPA.

JMP use ATAR until you have 1FTE of Uni completed, then they use GPA.

Bond use a combo until you have 2FTE (I think), then it’s GPA.

JCU and Curtin use GPA (I think).

Given none of those unis have a specific 95.00ATAR requirement at any point (even for school leavers), I’d be interested to know where you’ve read that.
 
MrWhippe said:
So I spoke to QTAC on the phone and while they think my user error certainly would have barred me for consideration, the person I spoke to believes I'm ineligible for an offer regardless as they'll be looking at my previous completed degree (Ag Science - where my GPA converts to a ~98 supposedly) rather than my most recent new degree (which I've only completed a single year of, and have a GPA of 7 in). Wasn't aware they'd look to my previous study - and am frankly still unconvinced - but idk! 🙄

Hadn't seen this element mentioned anywhere on MSO, though maybe I missed it.
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Dose it matter if your previous tertiary studies are completed or uncompleted, also if your most recent degree is from same uni or a different.
 
wgp said:
Dose it matter if your previous tertiary studies are completed or uncompleted, also if your most recent degree is from same uni or a different.
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Doesn't matter if they're uncompleted. They'll still be involved in GPA calculations.

I think they just look at any tertiary study perofrmed within the last 5 years, regardless of completion or institution
 
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MrWhippe said:
Doesn't matter if they're uncompleted. They'll still be involved in GPA calculations.

I think they just look at any tertiary study perofrmed within the last 5 years, regardless of completion or institution
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How many tertiary degrees did you have. Also Did you do you tertiary degrees at same uni or different uni.
 
wgp said:
How many tertiary degrees did you have. Also Did you do you tertiary degrees at same uni or different uni.
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I technically had 3, as I did 1 semester of a degree which they said they included. 2 of these courses were with the same Uni, and the third was with a different one. All of these courses were included in calculations
 
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MrWhippe said:
Doesn't matter if they're uncompleted. They'll still be involved in GPA calculations.
I think they just look at any tertiary study performed within the last 5 years, regardless of completion or institution
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Can anyone else confirm this? If I completed one year at one uni in 2017 and just completed my first year in another course at another uni, do medical schools look at both cumulatively or just the most recent degree you are doing?
 
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