Non-standard Medicine Entry

[rayy]

even though exams usually end around november?

 

[A1]

even though exams usually end around november?

WSU & JMP only check your GPA when they do the offers early January, by then your Nov/Dec results are available.

JCU is slightly different in that GPA is a component in interview selection. Early Nov when they release invites for round1 interviews your 2nd semester results are not out yet, so most 1st-year nonstandards only get invited to round2 interviews.

 

[rayy]

WSU & JMP only check your GPA when they do the offers early January, by then your Nov/Dec results are available.

JCU is slightly different in that GPA is a component in interview selection. Early Nov when they release invites for round1 interviews your 2nd semester results are not out yet, so most 1st-year nonstandards only get invited to round2 interviews.

ohh i see thank you so much

 

[atarhacker]

Just want to know that will you be eligible for EAS after you have started tertiary studies. She has experienced financial disadvantage ( parents hold pensioners card ) during Yr 12 but she is already in Uni. Will UNSW consider her EAS application when she applies for med ( UNSW takes the higher one out of ATAR and GPA ). Also, are there some criteria's for SCATS (She can't find any online) ?

 

[2xq]

Just want to know that will you be eligible for EAS after you have started tertiary studies. She has experienced financial disadvantage ( parents hold pensioners card ) during Yr 12 but she is already in Uni. Will UNSW consider her EAS application when she applies for med

Eight institutions do not give EAS consideration to EAS applicants who are currently undertaking or who have previously undertaken tertiary study. UNSW is one of them.

( UNSW takes the higher one out of ATAR and GPA ).

Assuming she has already achieved a 96+ ATAR (or 91+ for rural applicants), then yes they will take whichever is higher.

Also, are there some criteria's for SCATS (She can't find any online) ?

 

[atarhacker]

Eight institutions do not give EAS consideration to EAS applicants who are currently undertaking or who have previously undertaken tertiary study. UNSW is one of them.

Assuming she has already achieved a 96+ ATAR (or 91+ for rural applicants), then yes they will take whichever is higher.

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Thx

 

[gbhu]

I am currently a first year (second year total at university) student at AUT looking at applying non standard in Aus. However last year I did study at University of Auckland doing a completely different course/ degree. When applying for non standard entry, would my GPA for my first year at University of Auckland be considered or would it only be my current GPA this year. As I am studying a different course from last year and I did not transfer any grades over.

 

[A1]

I am currently a first year (second year total at university) student at AUT looking at applying non standard in Aus. However last year I did study at University of Auckland doing a completely different course/ degree. When applying for non standard entry, would my GPA for my first year at University of Auckland be considered or would it only be my current GPA this year. As I am studying a different course from last year and I did not transfer any grades over.

Assuming you will have completed a full 1st year last year and a full 1st year by end of this year
- JMP will only use this year's GPA
- WSU use the best of the GPAs or your ATAR
- JCU says they use the most recent as well as looking at all studies (so could be this year or best of this/last year or them combined, thanks JCU for being so clear )
- Not sure about UNSW, likely they use the two years combined.

 

[Lazy_Penguin]

Is sitting the SAT still viable for increasing ATAR conversion for nonstandard entry to UNSW (and other universities), or has this pathway been closed?

Many thanks

 

[A1]

Is sitting the SAT still viable for increasing ATAR conversion for nonstandard entry to UNSW (and other universities), or has this pathway been closed?
Many thanks

Some unis accept SAT for non-competitive courses. I have not found any med school say they do for domestic applicants, only internationals.
(Still worth a try if you don't mind the relatively small fees).

 

[DS23]

Some unis accept SAT for non-competitive courses. I have not found any med school say they do for domestic applicants, only internationals.
(Still worth a try if you don't mind the relatively small fees).

I am currently doing a bach. deg in UNSW, my atar didn't met the the 96 threshold, i will be giving UCAT this year.
I am considering doing SAT this year. What score would be considered competitive or is there a threshold score? Also, I noticed that the essay section is optional now, is it worth doing it? are there any unis that require the essay section as well?

 

[A1]

my atar didn't met the the 96 threshold,
I am considering doing SAT this year.

My guess is SAT won't help you overcome the sub-96 ATAR for UNSW. But (other than SAT is not in UNSW Med's list) I don't have any fact to support so won't talk you out of it.

You should aim at getting GPA 6.2+ to be eligible/competitive for WSU, JMP, JCU. Or 6.5+ and SAT accepted for UNSW. Good luck.

 

[DS23]

My guess is SAT won't help you overcome the sub-96 ATAR for UNSW. But (other than SAT is not in UNSW Med's list) I don't have any fact to support so won't talk you out of it.

You should aim at getting GPA 6.2+ to be eligible/competitive for WSU, JMP, JCU. Or 6.5+ and SAT accepted for UNSW. Good luck.

What’s the minimum WAM/GPA needed for non-standard entry? Meeting the threshold, does it mean I qualify for an interview (considering UCAT is high)? Surely, they need WAM/GPA high above the threshold

Also a little confused, because GPA is determined based on the actual grade, not the mark obtained

Let’s say if

person 1's term 1 results:
- course 1 85 HD
- course 2 85 HD
- course 3 85 HD
their GPA is calculated as (7+7+7)/3 = 7.0, wam is 85

person 2's term results:
- course 1 95 HD
- course 2 98 HD
- course 3 84 DN
their GPA is calculated as (7+7+6)/3 = 6.7, wam is 92.3

How do they shortlist candidates, in this case, person 2 did far better but the GPA is low. Will they be disadvantaged?

 

[Caffeine]

What’s the minimum WAM/GPA needed for non-standard entry? Meeting the threshold, does it mean I qualify for an interview (considering UCAT is high)? Surely, they need WAM/GPA high above the threshold

Also a little confused, because GPA is determined based on the actual grade, not the mark obtained

Let’s say if

person 1's term 1 results:
- course 1 85 HD
- course 2 85 HD
- course 3 85 HD
their GPA is calculated as (7+7+7)/3 = 7.0, wam is 85

person 2's term results:
- course 1 95 HD
- course 2 98 HD
- course 3 84 DN
their GPA is calculated as (7+7+6)/3 = 6.7, wam is 92.3

How do they shortlist candidates, in this case, person 2 did far better but the GPA is low. Will they be disadvantaged?

A competitive GPA for non-standard applicants depends on the university. Certain universities like the JMP have a threshold GPA where any GPA above the threshold is all that is required for that component. Others like UNSW will consider your GPA for offers along with other criteria which normally means your GPA must be quite high for a chance. Most universities will use the GPA and not the WAM.

 

[A1]

What’s the minimum WAM/GPA needed for non-standard entry? Meeting the threshold, does it mean I qualify for an interview (considering UCAT is high)?

Adding to Caffeine 's reply

- WSU/JMP : You need GPA at/above the hurdle, the rest depends on UCAT then interview (if you get one)

- JCU : Selection for interview is by combination of GPA + the written application. It's not documented in JCU criteria but we observe that hardly any sub-6.2 gets an interview invite so we say 6.2 is the *starting* point to be competitive. Because of the combination a 6.2 needs a more outstanding written application versus say a 6.8

- UNSW : Combination of GPA + UCAT. Again we see no invite to sub-99.5/6.5 so that is the starting point, then it requires roughly 95%ile or better UCAT. For each 0.1 GPA above 6.5 we can roughly reduce UCAT by 1%ile eg. 6.8 + 92%ile is about the same ranking as 6.5 + 95%ile.

 

[user786]

Hi,

I recently completed a bachelor's degree (non-health related) with a unweighted GPA of 6.3 (weighted GPA of 6.4). I finished high school 4 years ago with a really high ATAR (99+), but I'm under the impression that I won't be able to use it since I've already completed a degree. Is this correct?

Also does anyone have an indication as to what UCAT score would be competitive in securing an interview (as a non-standard)? Do universities publish this data?

I'm new to this forum so I'd appreciate any guidance that comes my way, especially in relation to which universities accept non-standards and their application process/requirements.

Cheers

 

[last resort]

Hi, Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, I am applying non-standard this year for the first time. I will try to answer ur questions correctly tho.

I recently completed a bachelor's degree (non-health related) with a unweighted GPA of 6.3 (weighted GPA of 6.4). I finished high school 4 years ago with a really high ATAR (99+), but I'm under the impression that I won't be able to use it since I've already completed a degree. Is this correct?

Since you've entered into a university they would use your GPA as you are not a school leaver anymore, however UNSW may still use 50% ATAR and 50% GPA (i'm not sure how UNSW works exactly).
JMP requires a close to credit average which is ~4.7
If your ATAR was 95.5+ you don't need 6.2 for JPM (WSU/CSU); you do if not 95.5+
JCU uses combination of GPA + your written application to assess. Our JCU veteran Benjamin said 6.2+ to be competitive, but a lower GPA + a killer written application can still get you an interview.

Also does anyone have an indication as to what UCAT score would be competitive in securing an interview (as a non-standard)? Do universities publish this data?

JMP usually requires around the 95th Percentile which is roughly 3100 (i got this from JMP last year) and according to the 2023 interview compiled list the lowest for JMP was 3110. WSU is a bit different as they heavily weight VR (58% im pretty sure) and for JCU they just use ur GPA and written application for an interview. Overall I'd say to aim for over the 3100 mark for at least one interview invite.

I'm new to this forum so I'd appreciate any guidance that comes my way, especially in relation to which universities accept non-standards and their application process/requirements.

The unis that accept non standards are JMP (University of Newcastle/New England), JPM ( WSU/CSU), UNSW and JCU. Application process wise just apply through UAC for JMP, JPM and UNSW and QTAC for JCU. The way I see it you'll need to smash your UCAT first before anything else and look at JCU application writing if you are interested in that.

 

[A1]

Hi,

I recently completed a bachelor's degree (non-health related) with a unweighted GPA of 6.3 (weighted GPA of 6.4). I finished high school 4 years ago with a really high ATAR (99+), but I'm under the impression that I won't be able to use it since I've already completed a degree. Is this correct?

Also does anyone have an indication as to what UCAT score would be competitive in securing an interview (as a non-standard)? Do universities publish this data?

I'm new to this forum so I'd appreciate any guidance that comes my way, especially in relation to which universities accept non-standards and their application process/requirements.

Cheers

Adding to last resort 's answer.

Leaving out UTas since I don't know what's happening there - Of the five med schools you are eligible, only UNSW uses your ATAR if it's better than your GPA. Unfortunately your 6.3 GPA is likely not high enough, and if your ATAR was sub-99.50 likely not enough either.

Your GPA is sufficient for WSU, JMP, Curtin and you need around 95+%ile UCAT to get an interview. (But note for WSU it can be from 90%ile to 98%ile depending on your VR section score).

6.3 is just competitive enough for JCU, you'll need a very good written application to go with.

 

[last resort]

Adding to last resort 's answer.

Leaving out UTas since I don't know what's happening there - Of the five med schools you are eligible, only UNSW uses your ATAR if it's better than your GPA. Unfortunately your 6.3 GPA is likely not high enough, and if your ATAR was sub-99.50 likely not enough either.

Your GPA is sufficient for WSU, JMP, Curtin and you need around 95+%ile UCAT to get an interview. (But note for WSU it can be from 90%ile to 98%ile depending on your VR section score).

6.3 is just competitive enough for JCU, you'll need a very good written application to go with.

Wait we we can apply to curtin as a non-standard?

 

[A1]

Wait we we can apply to curtin as a non-standard?

Only non-standards who have completed a degree
(or Curtin students before completing one).