Offers UTAS 2017 (Discussion)

[EJM]

This would seem to mean that 2017 is the first year with the medres cohort going into yr1 of MBBS. Perhaps that is the answer.

I mentioned exactly this to @LMG previously. I suspect this to be the reason for a distinct lack in non-standard offers so far.

 

[Miss Pokey]

@Miss Pokey - have you had any friends from BBiotechMedRes or BMedRes receive offers via the pathway?

Last year your umat score was more than sufficient for a place under the pathway scheme however last year there were also no BMedRes students going into first year as that group skipped first year and were given places directly into second year Med. Another possibilty for leap in scores. But I tend to agree with @iMMO and @A1.....

I have heard one or two that have gotten offers from first and second year Med Res.... But I know they had ridiculously good UMATs...

 

[biom]

I have heard one or two that have gotten offers from first and second year Med Res.... But I know they had ridiculously good UMATs...

Ridiculous as in >= 99 or as in >=95

 

[EJM]

I have heard one or two that have gotten offers from first and second year Med Res.... But I know they had ridiculously good UMATs...

Hmm I second @biom's question. And do you happen to know if BMedRes is considered in the pathway with BBiotech/BPharm/BHealthSci at all? I'm not quite sure.

 

[biom]

Hmm I second @biom's question. And do you happen to know if BMedRes is considered in the pathway with BBiotech/BPharm/BHealthSci at all? I'm not quite sure.

As I understand it the "up to 5 places" pathway covers all of the programmes above including MedRes. After that you are in the pool of non-standards.... that pool seemed to be a puddle for 2017 offers.

 

[Miss Pokey]

Ridiculous as in >= 99 or as in >=95

I think one had 98 or something and the other I have no idea...

 

[Miss Pokey]

Hmm I second @biom's question. And do you happen to know if BMedRes is considered in the pathway with BBiotech/BPharm/BHealthSci at all? I'm not quite sure.

Yup. I think @biom has it...as far as I understood, for this year's intake, the five pathway spots included all the pathway degrees as stated and then you were also thrown in with the rest of the tertiary transfer quota, giving you 25 spots all up that you were competing for. However, from now on, all the other degree are no longer pathways and Med Res is the only way in from 2017 onwards. Last year's pharmacy/biotech/etc cohorts are the last to use their degrees as pathways into med...at least that is what I heard from faculty members last year! But then, when it comes to UTAS, I think I may have trust issues now, so who really knows!!

 

[EJM]

Yup. I think @biom has it...as far as I understood, for this year's intake, the five pathway spots included all the pathway degrees as stated and then you were also thrown in with the rest of the tertiary transfer quota, giving you 25 spots all up that you were competing for. However, from now on, all the other degree are no longer pathways and Med Res is the only way in from 2017 onwards. Last year's pharmacy/biotech/etc cohorts are the last to use their degrees as pathways into med...at least that is what I heard from faculty members last year! But then, when it comes to UTAS, I think I may have trust issues now, so who really knows!!

Awesome, thanks!

Where did you get info on 20+5 places? a few people have quoted it in this thread and elsewhere but just curious if admissions has actually quoted this or something?

Thanks so much for your info @Miss Pokey !

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Yup. I think @biom has it...as far as I understood, for this year's intake, the five pathway spots included all the pathway degrees as stated and then you were also thrown in with the rest of the tertiary transfer quota, giving you 25 spots all up that you were competing for. However, from now on, all the other degree are no longer pathways and Med Res is the only way in from 2017 onwards. Last year's pharmacy/biotech/etc cohorts are the last to use their degrees as pathways into med...at least that is what I heard from faculty members last year! But then, when it comes to UTAS, I think I may have trust issues now, so who really knows!!

According to the UTAS website, the BMedRes pathway as the only 'mature aged entry' pathway to MBBS rule doesn't come into effect until the 2019 cohort. It was originally 'advertised' as 2018, but then changed to 2019 a few days later.

(In other words, it was a shambles )

The eligibility rules for non standard entry in 2018 are the same as this year, with the explicit caveat of 'reducing numbers' and a possible change in the way GPA is calculated (though they've never been clear on that in the past so it may not be any different).

 

[Miss Pokey]

See

According to the UTAS website, the BMedRes pathway as the only 'mature aged entry' pathway to MBBS rule doesn't come into effect until the 2019 cohort. It was originally 'advertised' as 2018, but then changed to 2019 a few days later.

(In other words, it was a shambles )

The eligibility rules for non standard entry in 2018 are the same as this year, with the explicit caveat of 'reducing numbers' and a possible change in the way GPA is calculated (though they've never been clear on that in the past so it may not be any different).

See? I told you! There is cause for me having trust issues!!

 

[Miss Pokey]

Awesome, thanks!

Where did you get info on 20+5 places? a few people have quoted it in this thread and elsewhere but just curious if admissions has actually quoted this or something?

Thanks so much for your info @Miss Pokey !

I got the info from somebody who I was talking to from the School of Medicine while I was putting in my application.

 

[Yamster]

According to the UTAS website, the BMedRes pathway as the only 'mature aged entry' pathway to MBBS rule doesn't come into effect until the 2019 cohort. It was originally 'advertised' as 2018, but then changed to 2019 a few days later.

Do we have any details on how the BMedRes pathway will work for future non-standard applicants?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Do we have any details on how the BMedRes pathway will work for future non-standard applicants?

Yep, you gotta complete it

In other words, you can't transfer in earlier, or from a different degree, or from a different Uni. The only way for 'oldies' to be eligible is to complete BMedRes AT UTAS. Some people will be on a guaranteed entry pathway, meaning they just have to keep up a certain grade/GPA and they're in once they complete BMedRes. Presumably, others graduating BMedRes without guaranteed entry will sit UMAT and fight each other for any remaining spots. Numbers have not been specified as far as I'm aware.

ETA: Latest information makes it look like the Guaranteed Entry is only open to school leavers. Non-school leavers can also enrol in BMedRes (and, indeed, have to in order to be considered for MBBS at UTAS) and will be in the Competitive Entry pool with their non-Guaranteed Entry classmates. A small portion of these students can also apply (using UMAT scores and GPA) to transfer after 1st and 2nd year. Which I potentially would have considered. But... see post below.

 

[biom]

For info @Dalia has posted about a guaranteed entry offer @ uTAS Guaranteed Entry | Med Students Online She has 93 UMAT and 96.4 ATAR.

Last year the guaranteed offers were being made in the week before semester started so possibly there will be some offers at lower stats than the above.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

See

See? I told you! There is cause for me having trust issues!!

GUESS WHAT?!! You will love this...

The UTAS website is currently (and concurrently!!) advising that the new BMedRes requirement for mature aged students first comes into effect "for those wishing to study the MBBS in 2018" AND "for 2018 applications/2019 commencement".

Maybe you have to include in your application which Official UTAS Website Page you're getting your information from, and they'll decide your eligibility from there!

In other news, and assuming the changes are from 2018 entry onwards, I also think it was SUPER NICE OF THEM to announce this new requirement some 2.5 months after applications for the required course closed. So, even if I wanted to enrol in BMedRes for funsies to meet eligibility criteria, I can't. They didn't reveal it was necessary until it was too late to apply. And then they indicated it wasn't a pre-requisite for another year anyway, appearing to give everyone one more shot (though did indicate a reduction in non-standard spots, which, whatever, fair enough at the time). Only now they appear to have changed their minds again.

I really, really wish I wasn't angry... but I am.

 

[EJM]

GUESS WHAT?!! You will love this...

The UTAS website is currently (and concurrently!!) advising that the new BMedRes requirement for mature aged students first comes into effect "for those wishing to study the MBBS in 2018" AND "for 2018 applications/2019 commencement".

Maybe you have to include in your application which Official UTAS Website Page you're getting your information from, and they'll decide your eligibility from there!

In other news, and assuming the changes are from 2018 entry onwards, I also think it was SUPER NICE OF THEM to announce this new requirement some 2.5 months after applications for the required course closed. So, even if I wanted to enrol in BMedRes for funsies to meet eligibility criteria, I can't. They didn't reveal it was necessary until it was too late to apply. And then they indicated it wasn't a pre-requisite for another year anyway, appearing to give everyone one more shot (though did indicate a reduction in non-standard spots, which, whatever, fair enough at the time). Only now they appear to have changed their minds again.

I really, really wish I wasn't angry... but I am.

I wonder where my Bachelor of Biotechnology and Medical Research fits with this considering it's the same degree...

 

[syzygy]

It was a complete stroke of luck that I decided to apply for BMedRes as my backup. And despite my good fortune in choosing to apply for it, I'm still (probably) as angry as you (LMG) at the lack of foresight with which they approach the admissions process. I hope I can prove that it is ludicrously easy for a science graduate to redo first year courses, although I wish I didn't have to add $9500 to my $30k HECS debt just to show off.

 

[syzygy]

Omg someone is looking at my application. "Your application is being updated. Preference changes and responding to offers cannot be performed at this time - please check back later."
Still hoping.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

It was a complete stroke of luck that I decided to apply for BMedRes as my backup. And despite my good fortune in choosing to apply for it, I'm still (probably) as angry as you (LMG) at the lack of foresight with which they approach the admissions process. I hope I can prove that it is ludicrously easy for a science graduate to redo first year courses, although I wish I didn't have to add $9500 to my $30k HECS debt just to show off.

I understand that they no doubt have more than enough high quality applicants to fill the MBBS cohort several times over and so don't really need to be conscious of the fact that their haphazard approach to presenting information (or, you know, "alternative facts" as the case may be!) is confusing and leads to disadvantage for some prospective students. However, I'm also of the opinion that, just because you have the power to act like a d-bag, doesn't mean you actually should act like a d-bag!

 

[syzygy]

I understand that they no doubt have more than enough high quality applicants to fill the MBBS cohort several times over and so don't really need to be conscious of the fact that their haphazard approach to presenting information (or, you know, "alternative facts" as the case may be!) is confusing and leads to disadvantage for some prospective students. However, I'm also of the opinion that, just because you have the power to act like a d-bag, doesn't mean you actually should act like a d-bag!

That said, there are plenty of people working there who just want to help, but whoever is in putting the information online doesn't appreciate their power, and how much applicants are relying on that information.