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Otago HSFY chat - archive

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Public Liability said:
Oh and about the Aptitute books, they themselves say it should never be a replacement for course given handouts, notes, and essential textbooks.
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Maybe I'm being a bit cynical here, but if they truly believe that (and aren't just paying lip service to the official university policy of advising against the purchase of student-made resources), then I cannot see how they view their own resource (the aptitute books) as a valuable addition to the HSFY student's existing resources, given that it covers nothing that isn't in handouts, lectures and the textbook. I just wonder to what extent the writers of aptitute are driven by a desire to genuinely help HSFYers (and not just make money off their desperation).
 
I got that one wrong, now that I think about it you're right SASOl they were absurd, but I thought I heard him say something aqueduct, so I picked Roman...thought cerbral was too obvious to be right.

Funny thing is, they never seem to make that move again. I remember telling skyglow sometime during the year that they asked a question not in the slides and he didn't believe me >_>

edit: greenglacier, I agree with you somewhat but the book DID make some aspects clear. ESPECIALLY the GI physiology, man I didn't go to that guys lectures..
 
greenglacier said:
Maybe I'm being a bit cynical here, but if they truly believe that (and aren't just paying lip service to the official university policy of advising against the purchase of student-made resources), then I cannot see how they view their own resource (the aptitute books) as a valuable addition to the HSFY student's existing resources, given that it covers nothing that isn't in handouts, lectures and the textbook. I just wonder to what extent the writers of aptitute are driven by a desire to genuinely help HSFYers (and not just make money off their desperation).
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Yeah I'd say they are definitely out there to make money, first and foremost.

The textbook was very good I found, not too indepth, but deep enough to get everything straight in your mind.

I like aptitute because you could just flick to a page and find something when you needed to quickly, rather than going through lecture slides.
 
greenglacier said:
Well out of all the lecturers we had across HSFY, the one who set that particular question was always going to be the most likely (by far) to test stuff not covered explicitly in lectures.
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Yeah he kept saying the readings were examinable, so I made sure I knew the readings content.
 
greenglacier said:
Well out of all the lecturers we had across HSFY, the one who set that particular question was always going to be the most likely (by far) to test stuff not covered explicitly in lectures.
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Yeah, he did seem to stress the essential readings. Then again so did epi (the kept going on about how its part of the course and all that) but I don't remember them asking any textbook specific questions
 
Public Liability said:
edit: greenglacier, I agree with you somewhat but the book DID make some aspects clear. ESPECIALLY the GI physiology, man I didn't go to that guys lectures..
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OK, but I hope you don't mind me saying therefore that the aptitute book was only of huge help for you when you let your game slip in terms of keeping up with the course (not that I blame you - I really didn't enjoy GI). A student who keeps up with the course should have no need for aptitute (and aptitute can only do so much for a student who has fallen behind).

SASOL said:
Yeah I'd say they are definitely out there to make money, first and foremost.
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This is why I completely disregard them when they say "we are only providing resources we would have loved as HSFYers".
 
Public Liability said:
Then again so did epi (the kept going on about how its part of the course and all that) but I don't remember them asking any textbook specific questions
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lol, I had a chat with the epi department at one point where they explicitly said that we were not expected to know anything about retrospective cohort studies. Didn't stop them from putting in the "essential" readings though!



Oh, I think I should add that one of the aptitute authors was the PHSI191/HEAL192 tutor at my hall. Nice person, and a good tutor. I don't at all condemn them for trying to make a bit of money. I just know that the resource produced is unecessary, and the authors are by no means qualified as experts of any kind on the subject.
 
Hey greenglacier, out of interest I wanna know were you the guy who had a long talk with Stuart McDonald about current accounts and all that? He mentioned a talk in the lecture about some health sci who got full marks in the mid sem test

And you're attitude towards people who aren't qualified trying to do the job of qualified people is good I think, but then again if qualified people DID do that, the Otago lectures would be fuming
 
In my opinion, the lecture slides for HUBS192 were more than enough. HUBS191 however required extensive use of lecture audio, as the slides were quite pathetic to say the least (esp for musculoskeletal module). I would recommend getting the HUBS191 aptitute book, however I wouldn't suggest spending all of your time on it. Spend time making notes from the slides, and add any extra details from the aptitute book. If you're willing enough to use the audio, then don't even bother getting the aptitute book.

I'm not quite sure if anyone has mentioned this yet (it might be straight up common sense), but please make use of the past exam papers! I cannot emphasise how important it is to start tackling the questions early on in the semester. It will put you in the mindset of the lecturer and will teach you the fundamental skill of deciphering what is important from what's not. The past papers that you'll benefit the most from are PHSI past papers.
 
Public Liability said:
skyglow, SASOl and greenglacier should get together and write a book for HSFYers lol..you 97%+ monsters ^_^
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Haha I could contribute to a chapter on "second semester in HSFY", but def not a chapter on first sem! Lol, with exception for HUBS191 maybe.

Or are you just talking about a HUBS book? Lol I thought you meant about general HSFY...ahh I'm confused:wacko:
 
koochkooch said:
I cannot emphasise how important it is to start tackling the questions early on in the semester. It will put you in the mindset of the lecturer and will teach you the fundamental skill of deciphering what is important from what's not.
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Should be written in gold..if only I did this
 
koochkooch said:
In my opinion, the lecture slides for HUBS192 were more than enough. HUBS191 however required extensive use of lecture audio, as the slides were quite pathetic to say the least (esp for musculoskeletal module). I would recommend getting the HUBS191 aptitute book, however I wouldn't suggest spending all of your time on it. Spend time making notes from the slides, and add any extra details from the aptitute book. If you're willing enough to use the audio, then don't even bother getting the aptitute book.
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I never used the audio for HUBS, oh wait....yes on the day when the people fainted. That was so weird.....

Yeah chicken pie you should bro, wish I came across this site earlier in the year last year.
 
Public Liability said:
Hey greenglacier, out of interest I wanna know were you the guy who had a long talk with Stuart McDonald about current accounts and all that? He mentioned a talk in the lecture about some health sci who got full marks in the mid sem test
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Yeah that was me. I arrived at his office at 11:15, intending to go to the 12pm HUBS lecture. As it happens I only just arrived back at Carrington in time for lunch (which finished at 1:10). It was a very fun talk.

I would definately advise doing BSNS104 to anyone with an ability in maths, who hasn't done any significant economics study before, and who wants an easy, but interesting paper with a very cool lecturer.
 
greenglacier said:
Yeah that was me. I arrived at his office at 11:15, intending to go to the 12pm HUBS lecture. As it happens I only just arrived back at Carrington in time for lunch (which finished at 1:10). It was a very fun talk.

I would definately advise doing BSNS104 to anyone with an ability in maths, who hasn't done any significant economics study before, and who wants an easy, but interesting paper with a very cool lecturer.
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He was my favourite lecturer. In fact I would go the length to say do the course just for him, as he was just so damn funny in a fresh way. He seemed to hate alot of things, and remember the time he said he was happy his older brother's friend died? That was amazingly funny
 
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