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Good luck for HUBS this Saturday everyone!

Just a quick question, what is the format of the GLM tests? just like 10 MC questions? Also, I've seen the movements of flexion/extension described as being in the sagittal plane and then in the coronal plane...which one is correct? or does it occur in both?? These which movement occurs in which plane seen quite ambigous to me a lot of the time..does anyone have a good explanation as to how we go about these questions?

Thanks guys
 
Just a quick question, what is the format of the GLM tests? just like 10 MC questions? Also, I've seen the movements of flexion/extension described as being in the sagittal plane and then in the coronal plane...which one is correct? or does it occur in both?? These which movement occurs in which plane seen quite ambigous to me a lot of the time..does anyone have a good explanation as to how we go about these questions?
Think about it. The same class of movement (such as flexion/extension) will occur in different planes at different joints, depending on how the joint is orientated in the anatomical position. Joint movement questions shouldn't be too much of a problem in an exam, because, if in doubt, just move the joint on yourself, and work out what it's doing. HUBS (particularly musculoskeletal) is the one subject you get to bring into the exam the world's best textbook: your body :p
 
Good luck for HUBS this Saturday everyone!

Just a quick question, what is the format of the GLM tests? just like 10 MC questions? Also, I've seen the movements of flexion/extension described as being in the sagittal plane and then in the coronal plane...which one is correct? or does it occur in both?? These which movement occurs in which plane seen quite ambigous to me a lot of the time..does anyone have a good explanation as to how we go about these questions?

Thanks guys

Hey Sunny,

Ok I can answer part of your question, but not fully! The GLM test for Hubs is 10MCQ which are really basic! The cells I think are also MC and also 10? but apparently not so easy!

Also Flexion and Extension from what I've studied is in the Saggital plane (it's abduction and adduction that is in the coronal plane) but yeah I found it a bit confusing this morning when she was talking about picking up a glass since your hand is half pronated for that! Anyway I asked her after and she said even though your palm is half pronated it is still flexion and extension but a bit more complicated as there is also like rotation of the radioulnar joint... She said because the elbow is a hinge joint it is just flexion/extension!
 
For the purposes of HUBS, flexion/extension always occurs in the sagittal plane. (There are a couple of exceptions to this rule, but I'm pretty sure you haven't covered those, so I won't mention them)

If they ask you which plane a movement occurs in, don't over-complicate things - they'll always mean movement to/from the anatomical position.
 
Think about it. The same class of movement (such as flexion/extension) will occur in different planes at different joints, depending on how the joint is orientated in the anatomical position. Joint movement questions shouldn't be too much of a problem in an exam, because, if in doubt, just move the joint on yourself, and work out what it's doing. HUBS (particularly musculoskeletal) is the one subject you get to bring into the exam the world's best textbook: your body :p

But wouldn't they always refer the joint in its anatomical position. Hence, it won't change? If it is in it's anatomical position, it should be sagittal, no?
 
But wouldn't they always refer the joint in its anatomical position. Hence, it won't change? If it is in it's anatomical position, it should be sagittal, no?
As per gg, there are exceptions /pedant :p But yes, for HUBS purposes it's probably pretty safe to just assume that 'flexion/extension=sagittal plane'.
And I stand by my statement about 'if you can't remember, then just move bits of yourself and work it out', lol.
 
Hey Sunny,

Ok I can answer part of your question, but not fully! The GLM test for Hubs is 10MCQ which are really basic! The cells I think are also MC and also 10? but apparently not so easy!

Also Flexion and Extension from what I've studied is in the Saggital plane (it's abduction and adduction that is in the coronal plane) but yeah I found it a bit confusing this morning when she was talking about picking up a glass since your hand is half pronated for that! Anyway I asked her after and she said even though your palm is half pronated it is still flexion and extension but a bit more complicated as there is also like rotation of the radioulnar joint... She said because the elbow is a hinge joint it is just flexion/extension!
Thanks man! and thanks to everyone else who helped with my q too! There's no time limit on the glm tests right?
 
There's no time limit on the glm tests right?

Nope, you just have to complete it in one "sitting" IE. you can't close the page and come back later. If I remember correctly for the CELS GLM you actually do one question at a time and have to submit that question before going onto the next one - just a thing to note if you plan on doing it as a group.

EDIT: [OFFTOPIC]HSFY's please go easy on blackboard :D, last year when EVERYONE (mostly) decided to do the Cells GLM at the same time blackboard kept on dieing :(.[/OFFTOPIC]
 
I'm 99% sure this is the case. I remember him saying this and I haven't seen any reference to diabetes in the old terms tests. However, knowledge of body heat control and glucose regulation would be a good idea to have- it's what Lab2 is based on and they said that was examinable.
old hubs terms tests? :) where did you find these?
 
Argh did anyone find the CELS lecture today hard to follow?

So much information was given by the lecturer and it was difficult to tell how much of it we had to know...:(
 
Argh did anyone find the CELS lecture today hard to follow?

So much information was given by the lecturer and it was difficult to tell how much of it we had to know...:(

I agree.. particularly involving the synthesis of the primary cell wall and cellulose synthesis.. the textbook doesn't cover it very well either. Is anyone able to tell what the diagram on slide 16 is actually of/explain cellulose synthase? Is the diagram the cellulose 'rosette'? The lecturer didn't cover what UDP etc is and neither does any of the pre-reading as far as I am aware.. The diagram isn't very easy to follow and my notes alongside aren't helping much either!! Any ideas anyone? :D
 
I agree.. particularly involving the synthesis of the primary cell wall and cellulose synthesis.. the textbook doesn't cover it very well either. Is anyone able to tell what the diagram on slide 16 is actually of/explain cellulose synthase? Is the diagram the cellulose 'rosette'? The lecturer didn't cover what UDP etc is and neither does any of the pre-reading as far as I am aware.. The diagram isn't very easy to follow and my notes alongside aren't helping much either!! Any ideas anyone? :D

This is what I can gather from that diagram. UDP is Uridine diphosphate, which is like ATP, but with only two phosphate groups and a different base attached. Anywho, the sucrose synthase takes the sucrose and rips off the glucose part of the it (its a disaccharide) and plonks it on the UDP to make UDP-Glucose. All you really need to know then is that the UDP-G eventually deposits the glucose (using the glucose synthase to separate UDP-G -> UDP + G) into the cellulose strand which regenerates the UDP and it keeps on going.

The actual rosette part of it isn't important, just remember they move "parallel to the cortical microtubules" and the slide about in which directions the cell will grow depending on different microfibril orientation (which came up in our terms test last year :D). The rosette is the pink/green thing in my slides, hopefully it's still like that in yours as I used it to write my explanation heh.



[OFFTOPIC]Not really sure if that helps at all, I'm quite new to explaining things![/OFFTOPIC]
 
"The function of menisci is to reduce bony congruence" - Would you guys say this is correct?
I thought it was better to have a greater bony congruence as it helps to stabilise the joint, and that the menisci compensated for the little bony congruence the bones of the knee had...
 
The function of the menisci is to increase the congruence of the knee joint and to act as shock absorbers during weight-bearing activity
 
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