• Welcome to MSO!
    We are an online community for current and prospective medical, dental and allied health students and early career professionals from Australia and New Zealand.

    Please read: About MSO | Annual Welcome and Important Information | MSO Rules

    Quick Links To Forums
    Tests/Interviews: UCAT | GAMSAT | Interviews
    Entrance Discussion: Graduate Medicine | Undergraduate Medicine | Dentistry
  • Register with us

    Please consider registering on MSO. Benefits of registering are:
    • Able to post and participate in the forum
    • After 10 posts: Private Message Other Users
    • After 25 posts: Access to the Chatbox
    • After 100 posts: Custom user titles and Ad-free experience

    If you would like to get involved with MSO or have ideas, suggestions, comments, criticisms or other feedback please Contact Us

Otago HSFY chat - archive

Status
Not open for further replies.
unicol is given a pretty unfairly bad rap, particularly by those who have never even been there... I maintain that it is entirely possible to study at unicol (i barely left my room for the two weeks around exams), just maybe not in your common room on a thursday or saturday night in the middle of semester (which certainly isn't just a unicol thing, i've heard some pretty wild stories about nights in other colleges, including the ever-popular arana and carrington).

but they're all like 15 years old
 
Hey there i just wanted to know is there a possible chance to get into second year medicine with a three year degree from Waikato University?
Yeah sure. What's your degree in?
 
For homeostasis, was it the smooth muscle that lets sweating happen? (and how exactly does it 'let' sweating happen? o.o)
 
vasodilation of the blood vessels which involves relaxation of the smooth muscle lining them (and which I'm sure you know increases heat generation-->stimulates more sweat gland activity therefore, increased sweat production/sweating). Congrats on finally achieving your half-a-century=), took you a full trimester of hard labour (pun unintended) coming on here and posting studiously:P As for me...

I've got another question: Why is there a need for some NON-voltage gated K+ ion channels to remain open (or even be present at all) to help a cell maintain its resting membrane potential when it already has the sodium-potassium pumps which can pretty much do the job quite effectively (i.e. pumping in 2 K+ and 3 Na+ out thus resulting in a nett loss of positive charges and therefore creating the negative voltage difference across the plasma membrane)?
 
[SUB]​[/SUB]Mine will be on biology and psychology will this guarantee me a spot in second year? Is health science as hard as they say it is?

what year are u in dunedin uni?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
[SUB]​[/SUB]Mine will be on biology and psychology will this guarantee me a spot in second year? Is health science as hard as they say it is?

what year are u in dunedin uni?
Nothing will 'guarantee' you entry into second year. You'll need a good GPA, and an ok UMAT score to get in via graduate entry. I think last year's graduate entry score was ~7.5 GPA (although obviously it changes year to year, so don't take that as set in stone).
If you're accepted via competitive graduate entry, then if you haven't done the HSFY papers, they'll reserve your place for a year while you complete them (I'm pretty sure the grads doing the HSFY papers only need to maintain a 70% average or so to keep their place, which shouldn't be too challenging for someone who had already maintained a high GPA over their entire degree).
I suggest you read around here for more information. (This thread in particular should help).
 
Last edited:
[SUB]​[/SUB]Mine will be on biology and psychology will this guarantee me a spot in second year? Is health science as hard as they say it is?
No (nothing does), and no (seriously, it really isn't, if you're prepared to put in a proper good effort).

I do recommend that you have a read of the admission guidelines.
 
Sweet thanks and is there like a particular papers I need to do in order to get in? Because I'm doing micro anatomy and genetics does it need physics and hem stuff that I don't have the background in!
 
Sweet thanks and is there like a particular papers I need to do in order to get in? Because I'm doing micro anatomy and genetics does it need physics and hem stuff that I don't have the background in!
No. Your choice of papers will not affect your chances. Only your grades do. It doesn't matter if you're doing engineering, a BA, or biomedical sciences - only your GPA matters, and the fact that you must have completed it in minimum time (i.e. 3 years for a regular Bachelor's, 4 for honours/engineering etc).

Once you get in, then they decide whether your background was adequate to skip HSFY year. If they make you do HSFY, it's still a heck of a lot easier than the regular health scis who have to compete with each other for a spot - whereas if you got in via grad entry and have to do HSFY, they hold your spot for you and all you have to do is maintain a relatively low (by health sci standards) grade to keep it.

EDIT: The idea of grad entry isn't to have a degree that covers some of the med stuff, it's to show that you can thrive under academic pressure, so I wouldn't deliberately pick "med-like" papers - they have a clear rule that no degree or paper will be given any priority over others, so it's better to pick papers that are of interest to you, so you're more likely to do well in it.
 
Okay sounds good lol this really helps ae. um by gp so u have to get a b in your second and 3rd year pAper is that right?
It's competitive, meaning the higher the better. Ideally you want as many A+ and A's as possible.
 
I've got another question: Why is there a need for some NON-voltage gated K+ ion channels to remain open (or even be present at all) to help a cell maintain its resting membrane potential when it already has the sodium-potassium pumps which can pretty much do the job quite effectively (i.e. pumping in 2 K+ and 3 Na+ out thus resulting in a nett loss of positive charges and therefore creating the negative voltage difference across the plasma membrane)?
Short answer: it's complicated. The negative membrane potential isn't due to a net loss of positive charges via the sodium-potassium pump. I've put a basic (and simplified) explanation below but (unless HUBS has changed a lot recently), you don't need to know it.

[box=explanation]Basically, it's the open K+ channels which maintain the negative RMP. They allow potassium to diffuse out of the cell down its concentration gradient. However, because they're only permeable to potassium there's no compensatory diffusion of any other ions to counter the loss of a positive ion. Therefore there's a loss of positive charge by the cell = negative membrane potential. The Na+/K+ pump is there to ensure that the cell doesn't lose all its potassium via the open K+ channels.[/box]
 
Okay sounds good lol this really helps ae. um by gp so u have to get a b in your second and 3rd year pAper is that right?
As per Cathay, you're probably going to want better marks than 'B'.
Also, on a moderation/general courtesy note, we try to maintain reasonable standards of grammar/spelling on this forum, so it'd be appreciated if you did so in future posts :)
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top