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Post-UMAT 2018 Debrief Thread

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I had to guess literally half of section 3 because i ran out of time. Really annoyed. Is it possible to still get a score of 50 in that section, do you think?
 
I blind guessed 12-15 the first time I sat UMAT and still managed 58, so blind guessing 10 would mean a 60+ is definitely possible, but it would depend entirely on how accurate you were for the other 30+ questions. It would also be possible to get much less.
Yep something like that, I chose that one.

I feel like people are tossing up between prof confidence and detachment. How would you justify it? I can see both answers fr
I had to guess literally half of section 3 because i ran out of time. Really annoyed. Is it possible to still get a score of 50 in that section, do you think?

For the questions you did in s3 if you are confident with them then possibly.
 
I might be crazy here, but I picked the 5250 answer for the snow air bubbles question. My reasoning was my interpretation of the text that an air bubble forms when the snow becomes compact, thus networks of air get closed off, which I assume(d?) leads to the air in the compact snow pushing up to the non compactef snow.

Hence, I picked the answer where the air bubble is either the same age or older than the surrounding snow, but never younger.

Did I just absolutely flop on this question or does my interpretation make any sense?
Yeah I had the same reasoning. I was so confident during the exam but now I'm not so sure lol.
 
Wasn’t it professional dettachment to personal involvement?
I didn't choose the curiosity one, chose the professional to personally involved. I think I got the comraderie one wrong though. Was tossing up between dissonance and that. Went with dissonance.
Was thinking of going professional detachment, however, I wasn't too sold on personally involved. Can anyone give me a reasonable explanation as to why she may have been personally involved? I also think mild curiosity could have been appropriate in the way she was watching the procedure unfold whilst thinking about how she did those procedures herself.
 
probably about a quarter of section 3 was blind and the other quarter was educated guesses, like i'd be able to quickly rule out 2 or 3 and then just pick one

same lol, even though I gave myself an hour for section 3.
section 1 was also hectic. pretty sure I guessed all the questions for at least 3 different stem questions.
 
same lol, even though I gave myself an hour for section 3.
section 1 was also hectic. pretty sure I guessed all the questions for at least 3 different stem questions.
it's the worst feeling! Felt so prepared going into it and then section 3 was just ehhh and I think despite having time, knowing that the end was approaching made me panic?
 
Was thinking of going professional detachment, however, I wasn't too sold on personally involved. Can anyone give me a reasonable explanation as to why she may have been personally involved? I also think mild curiosity could have been appropriate in the way she was watching the procedure unfold whilst thinking about how she did those procedures herself.

I think it was due to her going from seeing it as a typical medical procedure with all the normalities (eg doctor being late) to feeling like oh wow this is actually me and not just some everyday thing. You can tell from how she is surprised by the length of the syringe. She mentioned that she never realised it was that big. She only got this insight when she was personally involved.
 
Yeah I had the same reasoning. I was so confident during the exam but now I'm not so sure lol.

I put down 4750, because the air bubble forms later in time than when the snow fell. If the snow fell 5000 years ago, it would take more time for the snow to build up to 50 metres above that point (which is when the bubble becomes encapsulated) so the bubble would form later than the snow fell, and be younger.

But obviously, I might be wrong. It is UMAT, after all, and I can't say I was confident with what I was doing for most questions...
 
Professional detachment to personally involved was by far the best answer

The reason is at the start she was looking at the situation from the perspective of the doctor and how it’s all standard procedure.

The part that made me absolutely sure about it going from professional detachment to personally involved is the part where she describes a patient getting their skin swabbed and then saying “and then I realised that patient was me” and then she started realising the things she normally does without second thought like sticking needles into people now started to be considered with much more importance and she realised how daunting it actually is to be “at the business end of the needle”
 
Professional detachment to personally involved was by far the best answer

The reason is at the start she was looking at the situation from the perspective of the doctor and how it’s all standard procedure.

The part that made me absolutely sure about it going from professional detachment to personally involved is the part where she describes a patient getting their skin swabbed and then saying “and then I realised that patient was me” and then she started realising the things she normally does without second thought like sticking needles into people now started to be considered with much more importance and she realised how daunting it actually is to be “at the business end of the needle”
Yeah I dont really see it being any other answer
Not sure why there is debate
 
hey everybody on this thread so far, it seems like we've come to an agreeance on most answers involving s2 and s1 (perhaps with the exception of the cartoon question which has some people split). I have confidence that we all did well.

Its time to kick bback and do non-UMAT things and get moving on with our lives :D
 
I put down 4750, because the air bubble forms later in time than when the snow fell. If the snow fell 5000 years ago, it would take more time for the snow to build up to 50 metres above that point (which is when the bubble becomes encapsulated) so the bubble would form later than the snow fell, and be younger.

But obviously, I might be wrong. It is UMAT, after all, and I can't say I was confident with what I was doing for most questions...

Hmmm I guess that makes sense, but I think (someone confirm?) I remember the text referring to the compact snow forming ice sheets. In this case, wouldn’t the snow that fell (and compacted) in the first place to create the air bubbles become ice, therefore, the surrounding ‘snow’ (not ice sheets) around the air bubbles would be newer than the air bubbles (which formed from the compacted snow/ice sheets).

Hope that makes sense but of course i’m not too sure either, would an ice sheet still be considered ‘snow’ (and did they even say compacted snow becomes ice sheets or is that a false memory)? If an ice sheet is still considered ‘snow’ then I believe 4750 would be correct, if not, 5250 would be correct?
 
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