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Pre-UCAT Discussion 2020

which I know many people in Australia would consider not enough.
Goodness, personally I consider that as pretty thorough prep! Some people go into these tests blind and nail them, and while I don’t necessarily endorse that myself, I think there’s probably a glass ceiling to be hit prep wise where doing x additional hours probably wouldn’t make much of a difference. Don’t burn yourself out too early - you’ve likely got a big year in front of you!
 
Goodness, personally I consider that as pretty thorough prep! Some people go into these tests blind and nail them, and while I don’t necessarily endorse that myself, I think there’s probably a glass ceiling to be hit prep wise where doing x additional hours probably wouldn’t make much of a difference. Don’t burn yourself out too early - you’ve likely got a big year in front of you!

Thanks for the reassurance, as I’ve been told several times I’m starting my prep late. I also wanted to get some of the prep done before school gets too intense, because as soon as a test is announced I’ll probably forget about UCAT study for a few days/a week.

The glass ceiling thing definitely makes sense, though I question whether it could be reached in as little as four weeks. I know I’m still improving quite steadily (mind you, I started out clueless). Maybe some people can just learn faster 🤷‍♀️
 
Thanks for the reassurance, as I’ve been told several times I’m starting my prep late. I also wanted to get some of the prep done before school gets too intense, because as soon as a test is announced I’ll probably forget about UCAT study for a few days/a week.

The glass ceiling thing definitely makes sense, though I question whether it could be reached in as little as four weeks. I know I’m still improving quite steadily (mind you, I started out clueless). Maybe some people can just learn faster 🤷‍♀️
dont stress too much about the UCAT. Personally what I found with my peformance last year was that is very dependent on the day and how you maintain yourself. I remember panicking when i couldn't finish QR in time while stressing simultaneously about the next section. The best thing to do is to keep as calm as possible ( which can be helped by practice and preparation ) and move onto the next questions which i found helped me a lot last year. As for my preparation last year I found that I ramped up my prep quite a bit in the school winter holidays with around 5 hours of prep a day and I did fine as im sure you will too! goodluck
 
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Goodness, personally I consider that as pretty thorough prep! Some people go into these tests blind and nail them, and while I don’t necessarily endorse that myself, I think there’s probably a glass ceiling to be hit prep wise where doing x additional hours probably wouldn’t make much of a difference. Don’t burn yourself out too early - you’ve likely got a big year in front of you!

I concur that there is probably a glass ceiling that you can reach, but this is something which can definitely be raised simply through constant practice. You will never do too much practise for this exam - It will only make you faster at recognising questions and performing calculations... time is so so so valuable in this exam that you want to see a question and it be 2nd nature as to how to solve it... wasting 2-3 seconds each question will separate you from an offer and doing the UCAT in 2021.

I've said it before, I did over 100 questions a day and a test each week to be able to score well and now be accepted into medicine. The only way you will 'burn out" is if you aren't looking after yourself. I think people using the whole "maximum 4-6 weeks" thing to either try to justify their "lack" of work ethic as acceptable or managed to do well with minimal study or are trying to limit you from doing well by stalling your study... remember this is a cutthroat exam, people will look to get ahead if it means putting you down... it's sad but it's the truth.

You don't need to do 100 a day as I did... Some days I did 200 which felt super effective and I did amazing, and there were days where I was so dead from working all day that the 100 questions I did were pointless and I should have just rested and not spammed 100 AR questions. Burning out is a thing and I did feel it, but that was attributed to not finding a good balance in my life at times.

My point is, don't let anyone tell you that you can study too much for this exam - you only have one chance in the whole year to do this exam and would you rather wish that you "studied too much and missed out" or "didn't study enough and could have done more?"
 
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Hi,
Kind of a random question but I’ve noticed on heaps of UK sites they recommend only 4-6 weeks of UCAT prep, whereas many Australian sites recommend upwards of a year of practice. As far as I can tell the tests are identical, so does anyone know the reason for this discrepancy?

I’ve been doing UCAT practice questions fairly consistently since the start of the year to prepare for the test this year (about 1 hour every second day, generally untimed), which I know many people in Australia would consider not enough. That means I’ve been practicing for 5 or 6 weeks now, and even if I studied for several hours a day I still couldn’t see myself being ready in such a short time frame. I’ve definitely improved (especially in AR, which I was absolutely hopeless at at first, and DM, which I’ve always been alright at but I’m really getting the hang of it now). Just wondering how people could do so well after 4-6 weeks of prep.

Although I dont recommend it I crammed UCAT prep in the last week and a half and managed to get a score i was happy with. The UCAT, unlike GAMSAT or MCAT dont have a large knowledge base to them. Its more of a test on intrinsic skills
 
The only way you will 'burn out" is if you aren't looking after yourself.
Have to strongly disagree with this. There are many reasons people can burn out, and while self-care goes a long way, when you take a driven candidate (who may well have many other life commitments in addition to their schooling and UCAT) who wants to / has been recommended to / has an expectation that they have to spend several hours + each day preparing for a high stakes exam for months on end, it’s hard to stop the candle burning at both ends. I know your comment was made with reference to UCAT preparation, but more broadly, it’s usually not going to be helpful to suggest someone burnt out is in their position purely because they’re not looking after themselves. There’s usually an array of factors going on and not all of them can be controlled easily.
I think people using the whole "maximum 4-6 weeks" thing to either try to justify their "lack" of work ethic as acceptable or managed to do well with minimal study or are trying to limit you from doing well by stalling your study... remember this is a cutthroat exam, people will look to get ahead if it means putting you down... it's sad but it's the truth.
Different exam I know (but one I’d argue is possibly more preparable for than UCAT) but when I sat GAMSAT I didn’t ever do more than 6 weeks in the lead up to the exam, and when I tell others that, it’s an attempt to reassure them that crazy amounts of preparation aren’t 100% necessary to do well, and to minimise stress - something that I imagine many past UCAT sitters with similar advice are doing. To suggest it’s an attempt to justify poor work ethic or sabotage other test sitters seems a little.... more far fetched than simply to help others, and personally I’d find it a little insulting if someone suggested those were my motives if I was giving said advice/reassurance.

I’ve not much idea what the optimal approach to UCAT preparation is (I’ve never sat the test before and haven’t read studies about it) but I do know that there’s no one trick fits all approach, that a lot of it comes down to inherent ability, and future candidates should feel reassured that they can focus on other areas of their life and still do well in the exam without months of prep in the lead up.
 
I concur that there is probably a glass ceiling that you can reach, but this is something which can definitely be raised simply through constant practice. You will never do too much practise for this exam - It will only make you faster at recognising questions and performing calculations... time is so so so valuable in this exam that you want to see a question and it be 2nd nature as to how to solve it... wasting 2-3 seconds each question will separate you from an offer and doing the UCAT in 2021.

I've said it before, I did over 100 questions a day and a test each week to be able to score well and now be accepted into medicine. The only way you will 'burn out" is if you aren't looking after yourself. I think people using the whole "maximum 4-6 weeks" thing to either try to justify their "lack" of work ethic as acceptable or managed to do well with minimal study or are trying to limit you from doing well by stalling your study... remember this is a cutthroat exam, people will look to get ahead if it means putting you down... it's sad but it's the truth.

You don't need to do 100 a day as I did... Some days I did 200 which felt super effective and I did amazing, and there were days where I was so dead from working all day that the 100 questions I did were pointless and I should have just rested and not spammed 100 AR questions. Burning out is a thing and I did feel it, but that was attributed to not finding a good balance in my life at times.

My point is, don't let anyone tell you that you can study too much for this exam - you only have one chance in the whole year to do this exam and would you rather wish that you "studied too much and missed out" or "didn't study enough and could have done more?"
Sorry if I’ve missed this being answered, and I’d love anyone else who’s done well could answer this as well, but how did you allocate how many questions you would do for the 4 main cognitive sub tests? I struggled with this massively last year.
 
Sorry if I’ve missed this being answered, and I’d love anyone else who’s done well could answer this as well, but how did you allocate how many questions you would do for the 4 main cognitive sub tests? I struggled with this massively last year.
In my practice I would spend more time on the sections I was bad/less confident with at that point in time. I found myself struggling with QR quite a bit so I spent a significant amount of time working on it and I gradually improved/felt more confident and then shifted my focus onto a different subtest. For me it worked best to really try to improve one section at a time but I really think its a matter of doing as you see fit.
 
Might be misinformed here, but I read that SJT is out of 900 from 2019 onwards and isn't measured in Bands anymore. Does that mean the overall UCAT is out of 4500 now?
 
Might be misinformed here, but I read that SJT is out of 900 from 2019 onwards and isn't measured in Bands anymore. Does that mean the overall UCAT is out of 4500 now?
You're correct that SJT is out of 900. However it doesn't contribute to the overall UCAT mark and is treated as a separate mark. Thus overall mark will only be out of 3600
 
You're correct that SJT is out of 900. However it doesn't contribute to the overall UCAT mark and is treated as a separate mark. Thus overall mark will only be out of 3600
Got it, thanks. So an individual's percentile is based off the other 4 sections? Do Uni's care too much about SJT?

In addition, do Uni's weigh particular sections more heavily over others (like some used to with the UMAT)?
 
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Do Uni's weigh particular sections more heavily over others?
As far as I’m aware, the only uni to do this was Western Sydney, and purely for interview invitations. A1 created a formula which (I’m fairly certain) accurately emulated how WSU ranked their applicants for interview:
The weightings are now better presented in factors as VR + 0.2xDM + 0.2xQR + 0.3xAR
(equivalent to 58%VR + 12%DM + 12%QR + 18%AR in percentage terms).
In regards to SJT, there have been no notifications so far from any University that they will employ it for future admissions. However, I personally believe it is still good practice for interviews (especially MMI).
 
It says the 2nd march and today is that date but I can't seem to open it up

Have you created an online account or tried to log in with your old one? I don’t need an account so am not looking further than this, but the links to that point are working for me.
 
Holy crap it's been a year already :oops::oops: Time flies..

By the way guys, as appealing as the 31st July sounds to do your test (a lot of my friends did that to maximise the amount of time they had to prep), book a testing date at least one week before that. You never know when you'll get sick/have other commitments, and that extra week allows you to reschedule your test to a later date if you need to.
 
Holy crap it's been a year already :oops::oops: Time flies..

By the way guys, as appealing as the 31st July sounds to do your test (a lot of my friends did that to maximise the amount of time they had to prep), book a testing date at least one week before that. You never know when you'll get sick/have other commitments, and that extra week allows you to reschedule your test to a later date if you need to.
Second this. I'd recommend booking a time during the weekend before your term 3/semester 2 starts. This means you've maximised practice time (because once school/uni starts you're not realistically going to do a lot of practice) but you're not spending an extra week being anxious when you should be focussing on study.

Or be like my friend who did it early in July to get it out of the way. She did like 2 weeks of study, got a pretty decent mark and is now in med. That works too, and is a power move to boot.
 
Which would be the better testing location; ITIC Pty Ltd on Pitt Street or Pearson Professional Center, Bridge Street Sydney ? I have read a lot of different reviews about the two and hope someone can comment on them. Just making sure I get this right. 🚶‍♀️
 
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