UQ UQ Medicine: Provisional Entry Questions and Discussion

[ucatboy]

I like the rankings method too, simple and efficient, except for Monash

Monash scenario:
450 Vic interviewees, 210 places

Bob's ATAR rank: 60th out of 450
Bob's UCAT rank: 90th out of 450
Bob's interview rank: 450th out of 450

Bob's scaled average rank: (60 × 33%) + (90 × 33%) + (450 × 33%) = 200th. Offer assured despite bottom-placed interview, bonded though.

Monash should employ the UNSW technique of culling the bottom x% of interviewees, that would ensure more well-rounded selection. That's if they haven't already.

 

[nb]

I’d think they’d have to keep it in play, otherwise the person with 91.00 who gets 4 bonus points to bring them up to 95.00 would be SERIOUSLY behind the 8-ball for offers to the point of making the bonus system largely meaningless, probably.

So what I gather from this is that the bonus points will only be used to adjust the selection rank for an interview, but from there on, the RAW atar will be used to determine a place offer?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

So what I gather from this is that the bonus points will only be used to adjust the selection rank for an interview, but from there on, the RAW atar will be used to determine a place offer?

I’m not going to speculate any further but, for what it’s worth, my reply was literally the opposite of this.

 

[nb]

I’m not going to speculate any further but, for what it’s worth, my reply was literally the opposite of this.

my bad. misread it haha

 

[nb]

Confirmed it is selection rank (including bonus points)

 

[Cool]

My friend unable to finish initial degree in 3 years. He suppose to start medicine this year but he did not finish the first degree with the minimum period. He got UQ medicine provisional. my question is UQ will give time to finish the degree? or he will lose the place for medicine?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

My friend unable to finish initial degree in 3 years. He suppose to start medicine this year but he did not finish the first degree with the minimum period. He got UQ medicine provisional. my question is UQ will give time to finish the degree? or he will lose the place for medicine?

If it was a degree that could have been finished in 3 years when studying full time, then no, he will not be guaranteed to move into the MD. If there are exceptional circumstances (and, tbh, even if there aren't), I would recommend that he contact the university directly for more information on what he should do next if Medicine is still his plan.

"Provisional entry students are required to complete their first degree within the minimum time specified for full-time students and achieve a grade point average (GPA) of at least 5.0/7.0 to be guaranteed progression into the MD program."

https://future-students.uq.edu.au/files/19945/doctor-of-medicine-info-sheet.pdf

 

[Cool]

Thanks for your reply. some are saying that UQ is bit flexible, will grant time. is there any chance? he does not have a valid reason, simply failed couple of papers.

 

[dotwingz]

Thanks for your reply. some are saying that UQ is bit flexible, will grant time. is there any chance? he does not have a valid reason, simply failed couple of papers.

The jist that they gave us in O-week is that the flexibility occurs before you finish your degree. In other words, if you fail a course you be proactive and organise summer courses/additional units before you finish your degree otherwise you lose your provisional place. No harm is done in contacting the university and asking but I would think its unlikely that he retains his provisional place.

EDIT: Actually i do recall you can defer 1 year of the MD given that you complete an honours. I have absolutely no idea how honours work but if he could accelerate it over semester 2 (let me reinforce - i have no idea if this works) and finish off the units he needed in semester 1 then he might be able to retain it. However the wording on the slides makes me think that this isnt a retrospective decision.

 

[Cool]

the paper he was failed was not available in the summer course. But he is trying to finish just those paper this year and apply for MD. when i look at your messages, it is going to be disaster on his side.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

the paper he was failed was not available in the summer course. But he is trying to finish just those paper this year and apply for MD. when i look at your messages, it is going to be disaster on his side.

Has he not spoken to the Uni at all yet?

 

[Cool]

He has. But Uni advised that complete the papers and apply end of the year. all up to the admission board at the end of the year. i think he should get the GAMsat score as well, for safe side.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

He has. But Uni advised that complete the papers and apply end of the year. all up to the admission board at the end of the year. i think he should get the GAMsat score as well, for safe side.

Depending on his GPA and the impact of the failed units, I would agree with this course of action.

 

[Cool]

true. thanks all.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

true. thanks all.

Again, depending on GPA, it he can also consider sitting UCAT for non-standard entry.

 

[dotwingz]

He has. But Uni advised that complete the papers and apply end of the year. all up to the admission board at the end of the year. i think he should get the GAMsat score as well, for safe side.

given he might have a less than competitive GPA it might also be valuable to consider non standard entry to JMP/WSU/Bond

edit - oops LMG beat me

 

[nb]

UCAT is simply used as a secondary differentiator for UQ dent? I thought that once the 99 Atar hurdle is met, then the ucat is used solely to determine place offer eligibility.... What I take from this is that a 99.50 atar and a 99.25 atar will be treated differently and not the same (as would be with a 99 hurdle req).

 

[DrDrLMG!]

OP/Rank only went to 99, it didn't differentiate further. As far as I know, a 99.50 and a 99.25 both got a Rank 99/OP 1. So then UCAT was used as the differentiator.

Note: there is no mention of ATAR in this. I would say it hasn't been updated to reflect the new system in Qld.

 

[dotwingz]

Considering it says OP it makes me think it’s residue from last year (QLD didn’t use atar until this year) and that any ATAR above 99 would be the same rank - therefore acting as a 99 cutoff where the ucat would then be used as a selection differential

 

[energeon]

With these changes, is there any speculation whether UCAT requirements for interviews will rise? There will obviously be a large number of applicants if the ATAR requirement is lowered to 95 from 99.