UTAS UTAS Medicine: Entry Information and Discussion

[REGULAR JOE]

I called UTAS and they said that the best 3 subjects of A Levels are considered. I have the maximum possible(3A*s) and since applicants are ranked on ATAR this year, can I be almost certain of an offer(when I asked them this, they were hesitant to answer and just said that medicine is very competitive).

 

[A1]

I called UTAS and they said that the best 3 subjects of A Levels are considered. I have the maximum possible(3A*s) and since applicants are ranked on ATAR this year, can I be almost certain of an offer(when I asked them this, they were hesitant to answer and just said that medicine is very competitive).

Iirc you have asked this question a few times. If UTas themselves can't give you a direct answer then no-one here can.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

I called UTAS and they said that the best 3 subjects of A Levels are considered. I have the maximum possible(3A*s) and since applicants are ranked on ATAR this year, can I be almost certain of an offer(when I asked them this, they were hesitant to answer and just said that medicine is very competitive).

Iirc you have asked this question a few times. If UTas themselves can't give you a direct answer then no-one here can.

In fact, I think you have even reported here yourself that you have confirmation from UTAS that they won't directly convert your A levels results to 99.95, so no, you can't be "almost certain" of an offer.

 

[Alimea]

So I get a conditional entry for UTAS 2020, I’m assuming it’s based on predicted atar and UCAT. My question is that how likely would it be that I don’t reach the required ATAR and therefore will have my offer revoked? Or do majority of people who receive conditional entry get in the course?

Is their predicted ATAR accurate?

 

[A1]

So I get a conditional entry for UTAS 2020, I’m assuming it’s based on predicted atar and UCAT. My question is that how likely would it be that I don’t reach the required ATAR and therefore will have my offer revoked? Or do majority of people who receive conditional entry get in the course?

Is their predicted ATAR accurate?

Assuming this is a domestic (not international student) offer, are you a rural applicant? interstate?

Iirc UTas has a minimum ATAR threshold of 95.0, that's what your offer is conditional on and it will be strictly adhered to. How far is your predicted ATAR from 95.0?

 

[REGULAR JOE]

I though offers werent given out till late december for local and january for interstate applicants? Does this mean utas are giving out offers early this year?

 

[A1]

I though offers werent given out till late december for local and january for interstate applicants? Does this mean utas are giving out offers early this year?

UTas has given out very early offers to rural applicants before. Since so early the offers are conditional on them meeting the ATAR threshold for their category.

 

[Alimea]

UTas has given out very early offers to rural applicants before. Since so early the offers are conditional on them meeting the ATAR threshold for their category.

I’m a rural interstate student

I haven’t actually predicted my atar but I’ve read that the conditional offer is based on the predicated ATAR the Uni calculates so I was just wondering how likely it would be that I would meet the threshold. I definitely should be sitting above 90

Anyone else get in on conditional offers in previous years?

 

[dotwingz]

I’m a rural interstate student

I haven’t actually predicted my atar but I’ve read that the conditional offer is based on the predicated ATAR the Uni calculates so I was just wondering how likely it would be that I would meet the threshold. I definitely should be sitting above 90

Anyone else get in on conditional offers in previous years?

just out of interest. What was the conditional ATAR that you have to meet?

 

[A1]

I’m a rural interstate student

I haven’t actually predicted my atar but I’ve read that the conditional offer is based on the predicated ATAR the Uni calculates so I was just wondering how likely it would be that I would meet the threshold. I definitely should be sitting above 90

Anyone else get in on conditional offers in previous years?

Afaik most students with conditional offers previous years made it in.

I just checked UTas website, the regular ATAR threshold is 95 but is reduced to 91 for RA2 and 90 for RA3-5, if you applied through the Rural scheme.

Edit: I don't think UTas would have worked out a predicted ATAR for you. They would just make you an offer based on your RAS(?) application and UCAT, the ATAR is for you to satisfy.

 

[apk22]

Afaik most students with conditional offers previous years made it in.

I just checked UTas website, the regular ATAR threshold is 95 but is reduced to 91 for RA2 and 90 for RA3-5, if you applied through the Rural scheme.

Edit: I don't think UTas would have worked out a predicted ATAR for you. They would just make you an offer based on your RAS(?) application and UCAT, the ATAR is for you to satisfy.

Just from last year’s experience at my school in Tas, everyone that got below 95 missed out on an offer so for 2019 entry everyone had to have 95+. Maybe they’ve changed it for this year??

 

[DrDrLMG!]

I’m a rural interstate student

I haven’t actually predicted my atar but I’ve read that the conditional offer is based on the predicated ATAR the Uni calculates so I was just wondering how likely it would be that I would meet the threshold. I definitely should be sitting above 90

Anyone else get in on conditional offers in previous years?

As A1 mentioned, conditional offers for rural students happen every year, so this isn’t unusual. In previous years, MSO members have been able to quote the conditions of their conditional offer (so to speak) as it’s been clearly spelled out in the offer itself. Is this not the case for you? Is there no reference to what conditions you have to meet? Passing chemistry and English as well as meeting the ATAR threshold are typically the requirements.

 

[Alimea]

As A1 mentioned, conditional offers for rural students happen every year, so this isn’t unusual. In previous years, MSO members have been able to quote the conditions of their conditional offer (so to speak) as it’s been clearly spelled out in the offer itself. Is this not the case for you? Is there no reference to what conditions you have to meet? Passing chemistry and English as well as meeting the ATAR threshold are typically the requirements.

yeah the conditions were all made clear about Chem and english and ATAR threshold, I was just wondering how likely it would be that I wouldn’t get in despite this offer. It seems that someone said most people who received this conditional offer Achieved this threshold so I guess that’s my answer

 

[DrDrLMG!]

yeah the conditions were all made clear about Chem and english and ATAR threshold, I was just wondering how likely it would be that I wouldn’t get in despite this offer. It seems that someone said most people who received this conditional offer Achieved this threshold so I guess that’s my answer

Yeah, I mean, they still have to go ahead and actually meet the threshold, it’s not like it’s a done deal, obviously. And it’s possible that MSO is not representative. But most (though not all), go on to have their offers confirmed due to meeting the thresholds.

I personally know someone who had a conditional offer for 2019 entry, but failed chemistry and had their offer retracted.

 

[A1]

Yeah, I mean, they still have to go ahead and actually meet the threshold, it’s not like it’s a done deal, obviously. And it’s possible that MSO is not representative. But most (though not all), go on to have their offers confirmed due to meeting the thresholds.

I personally know someone who had a conditional offer for 2019 entry, but failed chemistry and had their offer retracted.

I think the gist of Alimea 's question is - they didn't have a predicted ATAR, they thought UTas would have worked out a predicted ATAR for them and this conditional offer was only made after UTas predicted they will make the threshold, so they wanted to know how well UTas predicted in previous years (as an indication of how likely they will make the threshold).

I don't think UTas does that though, can LMG! please confirm?

 

[Deleted member 35034]

I think the gist of Alimea 's question is - they didn't have a predicted ATAR, they thought UTas would have worked out a predicted ATAR for them and this conditional offer was only made after UTas predicted they will make the threshold, so they wanted to know how well UTas predicted in previous years (as an indication of how likely they will make the threshold).

I don't think UTas does that though, can LMG! please confirm?

A1, I had an early conditional offer last year from UTas (9th of November). I was an interstate RA-3 and it was subject to a 95 ATAR being achieved. I don't recall UTas predicting my ATAR, I thought they simply set the minimum requirement for a place after they weighed up everything in your application - against your current progress and some feedback from the high school grades (and I think there was some estimate). In a sense, it was a conditional offer to those who met the UTas criteria and had a good written application and good academic record to-date. Based on those factors, it wasn't a predicted ATAR and it wasn't really a high ATAR to achieve, in reality, for those offered a conditional place.

As an aside, I think UTas have a great approach to their offers and their early conditional offer to me, personally, was a huge welcome relief and incentive. I wish there were more Uni's that followed the UTas model. It helped me a lot and came at the right time.

To the OP, however, I wouldn't worry too much as it sounds like you will achieve the 95 based on your current performance as shown in your UTas application.

(LMG is correct that the conditional offer letter very clearly spells out every detail of the terms and conditions of the offer and what the student needs to meet the offer. It's very straight forward and easy to follow.)

 

[A1]

A1, I had an early conditional offer last year from UTas (9th of November). I was an interstate RA-3 and it was subject to a 95 ATAR being achieved.

This year must be different from what I found > Rural Application Process

"ATAR Adjustment Factors for year 12 leavers
In recognition of the relative education disadvantage that can occur in rural areas there may be ATAR adjustment available to MBBS year 12 leaver applicants in the rural application process.

If you are a year 12 leaver eligible to apply via the rural application process (see location requirements described above), there is an adjustment of 4 additional ATAR points for RA2 year 12 applicants. Year 12 applicants from an RA3-5 area receive an adjustment of 5 additional ATAR points."

EtA: It could also be the case that you still need to meet raw ATAR 95. The adjustments are added only for the purpose of competing against non-rural applicants (if ATAR has become a competitive measure not just a threshold).

 

[Deleted member 35034]

This year must be different from what I found > Rural Application Process

"ATAR Adjustment Factors for year 12 leavers
In recognition of the relative education disadvantage that can occur in rural areas there may be ATAR adjustment available to MBBS year 12 leaver applicants in the rural application process.

If you are a year 12 leaver eligible to apply via the rural application process (see location requirements described above), there is an adjustment of 4 additional ATAR points for RA2 year 12 applicants. Year 12 applicants from an RA3-5 area receive an adjustment of 5 additional ATAR points."

Yes, I noticed that in your earlier post. I was curious if that was a new change as it is different to what was in my offer. I don't recall those concession numbers from last year - only had the 95 hurdle.

A1 adds: What about the EtA I belatedly added to my post above?

 

[Deleted member 35034]

Yes, I noticed that in your earlier post. I was curious if that was a new change as it is different to what was in my offer. I don't recall those concession numbers from last year - only had the 95 hurdle.

A1 adds: What about the EtA I belatedly added to my post above?

Yes, that sounds a very reasonable proposition A1. But again, those bonus points weren't applied to my ATAR from my recollection. I recall my place (e.g. in the CSP, BMP rankings) was still subject to my actual/final ATAR score. In all correspondence and the final offer, it was just the raw ATAR quoted. So it must have changed or I was short changed.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Yes, that sounds a very reasonable proposition A1. But again, those bonus points weren't applied to my ATAR from my recollection. I recall my place (e.g. in the CSP, BMP rankings) was still subject to my actual/final ATAR score. In all correspondence and the final offer, it was just the raw ATAR quoted. So it must have changed or I was short changed.

It's not new for there to be a statement about 'adjustment factors' made to ATAR for rural applicants, but I don't previously recall the specifics being mentioned. A friend received a conditional offer for 2018 entry with 95.10 and believes she only just scraped in (rural).