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UTAS UTAS Medicine: Entry Information and Discussion

Yes I’ll definitely give UTAS a call to help me with my application! I’m so scared of stuffing it up!!

Thanks :) Honestly, I don’t really have a preference. I just want a uni to take me! But I would prefer a 5 year course (over a 6 year course) with as much clinical hands on time/placements as possible.

Btw, what do you mean UTAS med has imploded?!

Yeah, I'm with you re. 5 years over 6.

As for UTAS, haha. There was a big change in their selection methods (for non-standards, and perhaps rural interstate school leavers) that they didn't bother to announce until Dec 19th, 2016, some 2.5 months after applications had closed around the country. As a result, the non-standard cut-off for Med at UTAS went from 80th %ile to 96th %ile in a single year. Most of us were blindsided, and some Tassie locals (myself included) hadn't applied to mainland Unis because we thought our low-mid 90s percentile ranks would be fine (as they had been every single other year!). Haha. It was a s*** storm of epic proportions there for a while, particularly when the initial announcement also included the lovely note that the non-standard pathway was to be no more from this year onwards (meaning those of us who'd been screwed over by the initial change, also didn't have the opportunity to try again the next year with higher UMATs). But they changed that part of the announcement a week later, so non-standard applicants are still eligible this year, but this will be the last time.

If you get an answer re. enrollment in, rather than completion of Foundation Chem. being okay or otherwise, can you please report back so I can update the above accordingly? I'd really appreciate it. To be honest, you're gonna have interviews coming out of your ears with those combos though :D UTAS and it's annoying need for Chem will be the least of your worries.
 
Yeah, I'm with you re. 5 years over 6.

As for UTAS, haha. There was a big change in their selection methods (for non-standards, and perhaps rural interstate school leavers) that they didn't bother to announce until Dec 19th, 2016, some 2.5 months after applications had closed around the country. As a result, the non-standard cut-off for Med at UTAS went from 80th %ile to 96th %ile in a single year. Most of us were blindsided, and some Tassie locals (myself included) hadn't applied to mainland Unis because we thought our low-mid 90s percentile ranks would be fine (as they had been every single other year!). Haha. It was a s*** storm of epic proportions there for a while, particularly when the initial announcement also included the lovely note that the non-standard pathway was to be no more from this year onwards (meaning those of us who'd been screwed over by the initial change, also didn't have the opportunity to try again the next year with higher UMATs). But they changed that part of the announcement a week later, so non-standard applicants are still eligible this year, but this will be the last time.

If you get an answer re. enrollment in, rather than completion of Foundation Chem. being okay or otherwise, can you please report back so I can update the above accordingly? I'd really appreciate it. To be honest, you're gonna have interviews coming out of your ears with those combos though :D UTAS and it's annoying need for Chem will be the least of your worries.

Wow that really sounds like a massive shitstorm, and an extremely extremely unfair one at that.

Will do. Thanks for your help LMG!
 
Wow that really sounds like a massive shitstorm, and an extremely extremely unfair one at that.

Will do. Thanks for your help LMG!

Also, head's up: X3H Bachelor of General Studies (Health Science Pathway) - Courses & Units - University of Tasmania, Australia
The unit is: Chemistry Foundation Unit KRA001

I'd still recommend contacting UTAS first though, as the Chemistry unit is available through a couple of different General Studies pathways (the one I accessed it through, Sci, Eng & Tech, is no longer an option). And if they're not gonna accept it anyway, then you might want to save yourself the 8 weeks of summer!
 
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So i'm just wondering if I were to my transfer to med from Sydney University would they have to scale my GPA to their grading system? For instance, if I score 70% in Usyd its a Credit average while it is a Distinction average in Utas.
 
So i'm just wondering if I were to my transfer to med from Sydney University would they have to scale my GPA to their grading system? For instance, if I score 70% in Usyd its a Credit average while it is a Distinction average in Utas.

Just to confirm, you'd be coming to UTAS as an international student?

As for your GPA, yes, I believe UTAS would use your %ages rather than what USyd refer to them as to determine your UTAS GPA. But I don't know too much about International entry, so it might be worth a call to admissions.
 
Just to confirm, you'd be coming to UTAS as an international student?

As for your GPA, yes, I believe UTAS would use your %ages rather than what USyd refer to them as to determine your UTAS GPA. But I don't know too much about International entry, so it might be worth a call to admissions.
It is ironic that most universities publish a means of converting overseas scores to local scores (eg Equivalent undergraduate entry requirements by country - International Future Students - University of Tasmania, Australia) but hat we don't even have a common system between states.
 
Just to confirm, you'd be coming to UTAS as an international student?

As for your GPA, yes, I believe UTAS would use your %ages rather than what USyd refer to them as to determine your UTAS GPA. But I don't know too much about International entry, so it might be worth a call to admissions.
Yeah, I'm applying as an international next year
 
Hi All,

I've just added some information to the Tassie school leavers thread that is probably useful for interstate rural school leavers to note, also...

From LMG!
 
Have offers for interstate non rural school leavers been released?

The only offers we know of are the ones that have been posted. Offers for the applicants you’re talking about may have been released, but none have been reported here (which would be unusual but not impossible given we are only talking about very small numbers).
 
Hello, I want to ask a question about whether or not the ATAR requirement for Utas remains the same in 2019 because I am planning to do or re sit UMAT next year.
 
Hello, I want to ask a question about whether or not the ATAR requirement for Utas remains the same in 2019 because I am planning to do or re sit UMAT next year.

At this stage, yes, it appears the ATAR requirement will remain 95.0+.
 
Thanks, I was worried because I get 3 questions for every 15 questions (drill) in Section 3 and it is only 150days left, so I think I would not get 50/50/50 with doing all of my other subjects and I do not want to do Year 13.
 
Hey there, i had a question in regards to graduate entry + umat into uTas - is it possible?
And i think i read somewhere that you can only get place into B Med research (one year competitive course) and THEN you can apply for med.. is this true or can you get straight into med at uTas :) Many thanks!
 
Hey there, i had a question in regards to graduate entry + umat into uTas - is it possible?
And i think i read somewhere that you can only get place into B Med research (one year competitive course) and THEN you can apply for med.. is this true or can you get straight into med at uTas :) Many thanks!

UTas no longer accepts non-standard applicants from outside of UTas into their medical degree, starting 2018 for 2019 entry.
 
Hey there, i had a question in regards to graduate entry + umat into uTas - is it possible?
And i think i read somewhere that you can only get place into B Med research (one year competitive course) and THEN you can apply for med.. is this true or can you get straight into med at uTas :) Many thanks!

In addition to Mana's reply, UTas BMedRes is a 3-year course. There are about 20 students in the cohort (by invitation only) who are guaranteed a place in UTas Med after the 3 years, the rest will have to compete (iirc they can compete after 1 or 2 or 3 years).
 
Following discussion with several people from UTAS MBBS (and related) administration, we have now been told several times that 2018 entry will be the same as 2017 entry for UTAS. Given this (and given how different 2017 was from previous years, not to mention confusing!) I thought I'd put together all the information we diligently gathered last year in the hopes that it may spare someone the confusion and heartache we all rode in 2016/17! To be honest, I very much doubt I have that kinda power, but let's give it a go, regardless :D

Clarifying Information
The below is for local, interstate, and rural school leavers, and non-standard applicants. If you are an indigenous applicant, please let me know and I'll see what I can find for you, but we have had no other MSO members identifying in this way recently with regard to UTAS applications, so we haven't gathered the same amount of information.

BMedRes Students
If you are a non-UTAS BMedRes student applying to UTAS MBBS, you're classed as a non-standard applicant. If you are a UTAS BMedRes(Hons) student applying to UTAS MBBS, you're classed as a non-standard applicant. If you are a current UTAS BMedRes student applying to UTAS MBBS, I'd advise you approach Adele Holloway for information.

Tasmanian School Leavers
ATAR 95+. Very generous (low) UMAT requirement (due to agreement between UTAS and state government). No specific UMAT section requirements. If you've lived in Tassie for 5+ years in a row, or 10+ years total (or other rural locations around Australia), you can also apply via the Rural Application Process.

Updated 04/10/17: Information from a 2017 entry applicant indicates that local school leavers (and presumably, therefore, all applicants) are subject to a minimum UMAT cut-off of 150/300. This person received an email from UTAS indicating that they had not been successful in their 2017 entry application (local school leaver who completed a RAP application) as they did not meet the 150/300 threshold for UMAT scores. Given UTAS have repeatedly indicated selection criteria will remain the same for 2018 entry, we can probably assume this will continue to be the case.

Interstate Non-Rural School Leavers
ATAR 95+, section 2 UMAT 60+. Given the very, very few positions on offer for this group of applicants, UMAT/ATAR combinations for successful applicants tend to be very high. I don't believe we had anyone reporting offers here at MSO last year with UMATs below 96th%ile (see edit note by LMG! below). As indicated, you will also need to meet an additional UMAT hurdle, with a section two (Understanding People) score above 60. Last year, a MSO member in this category with a UMAT of 100th%ile and an ATAR of 99.90 received a rejection email. Their section 2 score was 53. It's rumoured this additional hurdle is in place due to the fact that UTAS do not interview applicants.

Interstate Rural School Leavers
ATAR 95+. This was confirmed last year at MSO when multiple members in this category received conditional offers based on their predicted ATARs. They were clearly instructed that their offers would only be confirmed once their actual ATARs were shown to be above 95.0, and this is exactly what went on to happen. UMAT requirements for this group are also generously low, and don't have individual section hurdles. The lowest successful UMAT score reported on MSO in 2016/17 was 58. Another student in this category has been confirmed to have achieved a UMAT of 55.

Students in this category should also apply via the Rural Application Process to maximise their options.

Non-Standard Applicants
GPA 6.0+ (most recent 3 semesters), section 2 UMAT 60+. From last year it quickly became apparent that once these two criteria were met, applicants were then ranked on their UMAT raw score/300. An applicant with a percentile rank of 99, and raw score of 204 received a very early offer, while an applicant with a percentile rank of 99, and a raw score of 203 did not. In subsequent rounds (that continued up until at least 3 days prior to the course starting), the raw score cut-off for 2017 non-standard entry dropped to 189 (96th%ile).

It does not appear (and this was reinforced but not confirmed by someone from UTAS School of Medicine administration) that non-standard applicants are considered via the Rural Application Process. It may still prove wise to submit an application if you're eligible.

Local and interstate non-standard applicants are all in the same pool. There is no benefit to being Tasmanian/disadvantage to being from interstate within this application pathway.

Other Factors to Consider
Chemistry and English are pre-requisites. UTAS offer a Foundation Chemistry bridging course (free of charge and via summer school) if you completed high school Chemistry more than 5 years ago and did not study tertiary level Chemistry. If you've studied in English (ie. the information was taught in English) at any Australian educational institution (University, TAFE, etc), then you meet the English requirement, regardless of how long ago you completed high school English.

ATAR will be used proportionally for non-standard applicants who have not completed more than 3 semesters of tertiary level study. If you've done a single semester, then the ATAR cutoff is 95.0 and the GPA cut off is 6.0. If you've done 2 semesters, then the GPA cutoff remains the same, but the ATAR cutoff drops to 90.0.

This information is for 2018 entry only. We know that 2019 entry will look very different as UTAS moves towards eliminating the non-standard entry path altogether, instead wholly preferencing UTAS BMedRes students in the 'mature aged' category.

Offer Release Dates
  • Interstate rural school leavers and first round non-standard offers were released in late November/early December, 2016.
  • Local school leaver offers were released on the 19th of December, 2016.
  • Interstate school leaver offers were released in early January, 2017.
  • Other non-standard (and presumably other categories, just none were reported to MSO) offers were continually released up until late February, 2017.

There tend to be offer 'flurries' immediately following UAC, VTAC etc offer releases, with those awaiting 'home-state' offers rejecting UTAS offers and freeing up spaces for subsequent offers.

Applications open 'early August'. The UTAS website says they re-open on the 4th (today), but I've just checked and they're not open currently. Maybe later today or early next week. They close on the 30th of September, 2017.

If you have any questions please feel free to ask them below.

Edited by A1: Hope @LMG doesn't mind me changing the UMAT below 99th to 98th (@Wendy and @chocolateiscool got offers with 98th).
Edited by LMG!: just found an offer in the offers only thread, non-rural interstate school leaver with ATAR 99.0+ and UMAT 96th%ile.

"The lowest successful UMAT score reported on MSO in 2016/17 was 58. Another student in this category has been confirmed to have achieved a UMAT of 55"

Is that as in 58/300 or 174/300??
 
"The lowest successful UMAT score reported on MSO in 2016/17 was 58. Another student in this category has been confirmed to have achieved a UMAT of 55"

Is that as in 58/300 or 174/300??
Neither, I think. I took it at 58th percentile (so like, 155/300?)
 
Hey guys. I was wondering whether we can attach reference letters for Utas or through the RAP scheme. Can we and if so, does it give any advantage?
Thank you!
 
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