'What papers should I do at UoO for graduate entry' Chat, Enquiries and Help

[bangbang]

Hi, is it even necessary to take 4 papers each semester for medicine entry through the grad pathway? I am sure about 3 of my papers and unsure about the 4th one as I think I'll need to put a lot of time and effort in that one comparatively to other 3 as its a content heavy paper. So can I get some advise on whether i should do 3 or 4? Currently I have EDUC252, BIOA201, ANAT241 and PHSL231 recorded on my account and I was unsure about PHSL231.
I was thinking of taking 4 and trying my best in all of them and even if I don't get an A+ in it, then it doesn't have to be counted in the final stats for admissions process if I have other papers with fine grades. Would LOVE some advise! Cheers

 

[Fili]

Hi, is it even necessary to take 4 papers each semester for medicine entry through the grad pathway? I am sure about 3 of my papers and unsure about the 4th one as I think I'll need to put a lot of time and effort in that one comparatively to other 3 as its a content heavy paper. So can I get some advise on whether i should do 3 or 4? Currently I have EDUC252, BIOA201, ANAT241 and PHSL231 recorded on my account and I was unsure about PHSL231.
I was thinking of taking 4 and trying my best in all of them and even if I don't get an A+ in it, then it doesn't have to be counted in the final stats for admissions process if I have other papers with fine grades. Would LOVE some advise! Cheers

Firstly, make sure these papers result in you being able to do 300 level papers that you want to do, as you'll need 6 or more 300 level papers next year. (The graduate system has changed to having more weighting on higher level papers hence why I recommend this highly).
Also make sure that you're able to finish the degree too.

You don't have to do 4 papers every semester, however many people opt to take more papers than required as 200 level papers can now replace the grades of HSFY papers with heavier weighting. This means that even if you had A+ in your HSFY papers, an A+ in 200 level is better as this has a weighting of 1.0 whereas 100 level papers only have a weighting of 0.5, resulting in cumulative GPAs >9.0 (I think it can become 10.5 now?)

For more information on this use the link: Changes to scoring for admission categories

Essentially, 200 and 100 level papers can account for 360 points meaning that you should just take as many 200 level papers as you can get given that these have higher weighting.

Because they count up to 360 points, I think that they probably will be counted in the final GPA calculation processes.

I hope you are not thinking that the "old" system, where every year they count for the best 120 points is what is currently being used and the cumulative GPA maximum was 9.0.

This has changed and they now use the level of the paper with 200 and 100 level accounting for 360 points. (360 points is ~20 papers hence why I doubt you will be able to fill that all in without maximising your 8 papers per year + summer school. If you don't get A+ in something, it will be counted. If you limit yourself to fewer papers, you are probably disadvantaging yourself as your peers may get closer to that 10.5 GPA while you stay around 9.0 at best.)



TLDR: With the new GPA system, more papers = higher cumulative GPA.

 

[bangbang]

Firstly, make sure these papers result in you being able to do 300 level papers that you want to do, as you'll need 6 or more 300 level papers next year. (The graduate system has changed to having more weighting on higher level papers hence why I recommend this highly).
Also make sure that you're able to finish the degree too.

You don't have to do 4 papers every semester, however many people opt to take more papers than required as 200 level papers can now replace the grades of HSFY papers with heavier weighting. This means that even if you had A+ in your HSFY papers, an A+ in 200 level is better as this has a weighting of 1.0 whereas 100 level papers only have a weighting of 0.5, resulting in cumulative GPAs >9.0 (I think it can become 10.5 now?)

For more information on this use the link: Changes to scoring for admission categories

Essentially, 200 and 100 level papers can account for 360 points meaning that you should just take as many 200 level papers as you can get given that these have higher weighting.

Because they count up to 360 points, I think that they probably will be counted in the final GPA calculation processes.

I hope you are not thinking that the "old" system, where every year they count for the best 120 points is what is currently being used and the cumulative GPA maximum was 9.0.

This has changed and they now use the level of the paper with 200 and 100 level accounting for 360 points. (360 points is ~20 papers hence why I doubt you will be able to fill that all in without maximising your 8 papers per year + summer school. If you don't get A+ in something, it will be counted. If you limit yourself to fewer papers, you are probably disadvantaging yourself as your peers may get closer to that 10.5 GPA while you stay around 9.0 at best.)



TLDR: With the new GPA system, more papers = higher cumulative GPA.

Thanks for the wonderful explanation!

 

[ilikemicrobes]

Hey guys, currently questioning my choice in semester 2 papers. Currently I am doing MICR221, GENE221, ANAT241 and PHSI191 (I transferred for the beginning of sem 2 last year and this was the only paper I wasn't credited/exempt from for sem 1 HSFY), and have lined up MICR222, MICR223, PATH201 and GENE222 for semester 2 of a BSc majoring in micro and minor in pathology.

I really enjoyed the cardiac/respiratory and repro modules in HUBS and was thinking of changing GENE222 for PHSL232 or ANAT243, however in 3rd year phsl and micr papers clash so I wouldn't be able to carry on with phsl . Practically I want to change to a paper that is likely to spark more enjoyment in learning as at the moment I am not really enjoying gene and I am kind of dreading taking another gene paper.

My prospective papers for 3rd year are BIOC221, MICR332, 334, 335 and 337, and PATH301/302 (all required for major/minors) with 1 gap free in second sem, which preferably would be a 300 level if possible. I am just wondering whether to stick with gene or change to a phsl/anat paper which could cause issues with course selection for 2021.

Any advice or input on to what the papers are like in terms of content or people’s recommendations based on their own study would be greatly appreciated!

 

[blastoff]

Hey guys, currently questioning my choice in semester 2 papers. Currently I am doing MICR221, GENE221, ANAT241 and PHSI191 (I transferred for the beginning of sem 2 last year and this was the only paper I wasn't credited/exempt from for sem 1 HSFY), and have lined up MICR222, MICR223, PATH201 and GENE222 for semester 2 of a BSc majoring in micro and minor in pathology.

I really enjoyed the cardiac/respiratory and repro modules in HUBS and was thinking of changing GENE222 for PHSL232 or ANAT243, however in 3rd year phsl and micr papers clash so I wouldn't be able to carry on with phsl . Practically I want to change to a paper that is likely to spark more enjoyment in learning as at the moment I am not really enjoying gene and I am kind of dreading taking another gene paper.

My prospective papers for 3rd year are BIOC221, MICR332, 334, 335 and 337, and PATH301/302 (all required for major/minors) with 1 gap free in second sem, which preferably would be a 300 level if possible. I am just wondering whether to stick with gene or change to a phsl/anat paper which could cause issues with course selection for 2021.

Any advice or input on to what the papers are like in terms of content or people’s recommendations based on their own study would be greatly appreciated!

I have a similar paper selection and would say that for your third year, 4 300 level papers in second sem is pretty rough, especially given how much lab work is involved in both MICR and PATH. I personally think you are probably better to find an easy 200 to try fill the gap so you can focus on those 300 levels

 

[rotpota]

Hello, I'm a second year in bachelor of health sciences, and I was hoping to gain entry into medicine via graduate entry. I was wondering if anyone here has done a bachelor of health sciences degree and can offer any advice in maximizing grades, or what papers you've taken and their difficulty. The papers I'm taking this semester are MAOH201, MAOR202, PUBH203, CMCH201 and I'm open to suggestions for second semester papers (preferably within the community health care major.) Thank you

 

[Fencess]

Hello, I'm a second year in bachelor of health sciences, and I was hoping to gain entry into medicine via graduate entry.

I'm ELM2 right now and there are a lot of BHSc grads in my class. If you can do the essays thing and get good grades then you're in for a seemingly easier time then those doing science papers.

 

[123123]

Hi all,

So I was looking at second semester papers and have a free slot that i'm looking to fill, currently my options are between BIOC 223, the metabolism paper, this is the one i'm leaning towards. Next is PATH 201, I don't really know much about this paper and have heard it is quite hard but seems kind of interesting. The other option was to take a second semester ANAT or PHSL paper but i'm not sure which one, potentially the renal and GI paper? Are there any other papers that people have found relatively interesting or easy, thanks in advance

 

[Fili]

Hi all,

So I was looking at second semester papers and have a free slot that i'm looking to fill, currently my options are between BIOC 223, the metabolism paper, this is the one i'm leaning towards. Next is PATH 201, I don't really know much about this paper and have heard it is quite hard but seems kind of interesting. The other option was to take a second semester ANAT or PHSL paper but i'm not sure which one, potentially the renal and GI paper? Are there any other papers that people have found relatively interesting or easy, thanks in advance

Depends on which 300 level paper these can lead to that you want to do. Due to the new GPA calculation system, I reckon choose your papers while taking 300 level papers into consideration as well since 300 level papers are weighted higher than 200.

 

[blastoff]

Hi all,

So I was looking at second semester papers and have a free slot that i'm looking to fill, currently my options are between BIOC 223, the metabolism paper, this is the one i'm leaning towards. Next is PATH 201, I don't really know much about this paper and have heard it is quite hard but seems kind of interesting. The other option was to take a second semester ANAT or PHSL paper but i'm not sure which one, potentially the renal and GI paper? Are there any other papers that people have found relatively interesting or easy, thanks in advance

Hey, would highly recommend PATH201 really loved it last year if you search for PATH201 on MSO you'll find reviews me and others have written either on this thread or other threads.

 

[student2828]

Hi all,

So I was looking at second semester papers and have a free slot that i'm looking to fill, currently my options are between BIOC 223, the metabolism paper, this is the one i'm leaning towards. Next is PATH 201, I don't really know much about this paper and have heard it is quite hard but seems kind of interesting. The other option was to take a second semester ANAT or PHSL paper but i'm not sure which one, potentially the renal and GI paper? Are there any other papers that people have found relatively interesting or easy, thanks in advance

I did PHSL232(cardio) and PHSL233 (renal/GI) last year. I found 232 more interesting as sometimes 233 was pre dry, but I got a better grade for 233 in the end. Most of my mates say 233 is the easier one of the 2 paper. 233 requires a lot more memorization because there are heaps of cell diagrams you gotta remember so if you ain't up for that then probs steer away. Andrew Bahn is a big help in 233 - He hints heaps in his lectures and labs whilst is super nice when you email him questions.
I haven't done PATH or BIOC but friends who did PATH201 loved it. Apparently BIOC223 content can be reasonably straight forward but the finals and internal assessment can be a bit iffy.
There's this ANTH paper called 'conceiving reproduction' LOL available at 200 (100% internally assessed) and 300 level (MCQ final) which sounds pretty interesting but I've never taken them so you may want to consider these.
ANTH203 (asian arc) was probs the easiest paper I've done so far in my degree and was quite interesting, so would recommend that

 

[ilikemicrobes]

I did PHSL232(cardio) and PHSL233 (renal/GI) last year. I found 232 more interesting as sometimes 233 was pre dry, but I got a better grade for 233 in the end. Most of my mates say 233 is the easier one of the 2 paper. 233 requires a lot more memorization because there are heaps of cell diagrams you gotta remember so if you ain't up for that then probs steer away. Andrew Bahn is a big help in 233 - He hints heaps in his lectures and labs whilst is super nice when you email him questions.
I haven't done PATH or BIOC but friends who did PATH201 loved it. Apparently BIOC223 content can be reasonably straight forward but the finals and internal assessment can be a bit iffy.
There's this ANTH paper called 'conceiving reproduction' LOL available at 200 (100% internally assessed) and 300 level (MCQ final) which sounds pretty interesting but I've never taken them so you may want to consider these.
ANTH203 (asian arc) was probs the easiest paper I've done so far in my degree and was quite interesting, so would recommend that

Hi there,
Would you be able to give a decription of what ANTH203 was like? I'm considering changing to this paper for sem 2

 

[student2828]

Hi there,
Would you be able to give a decription of what ANTH203 was like? I'm considering changing to this paper for sem 2

You look at the Neolithic and state formation in China, Japan, and South East Asia. It's 100% internally assessed- there's 2 class tests each worth 25% and one essay worth 50%. Think only 3 ppl in the class got an A+ for the essay but you can get an A+ overall if you work hard for the tests. Concentrate on the tute material because that pre much covers both tests. The lecturer is really friendly, approachable and enthusiastic about the content so it makes the course a lot more enjoyable

 

[student2828]

Hey, does anyone know of someone who has done ANTH322? Having trouble deciding between ANTH322 and PHSL344. Having already done PHSL this sem, I feel like it might be better because I know how to study for it and some older students said it was pre good. ANTH322 sounds interesting and possibly has a lighter workload, but I don't know anyone who's done it. Any advice on ANTH322 would be awesome

 

[Jwadawdas]

Hi, can anyone who has done these papers advise me on which one is easier to get an A in: MICR221 or PHSL231? I was quite confused as both seem really content heavy... Also any other recommendations for easy A papers (after putting in the required hardwork ofcourse) for second year graduate entry? Cheers

Got an A+ in MICR but A in PHSL, MICR was definitely easier cause I'm more into rote learning but PHSL will be easier if you are better at grasping concepts. ANAT241 is super easy too.

 

[duftlagl]

Hi, could somebody give some insight on PHSL 343, 344, 345, 342, 341? How are the internal assessments like? I didn't do too well for the ANAT241 oral presentation so am unsure about whether I should carry on with Bsc physiology or change to major in anatomy or microbiology. I got all A+ for PHSL 231, MICR 221, ANAT 241 and enjoyed all except ANAT241. It would also be really helpful if somebody gives some descriptions about ANAT 331, 332, 335 and MICR 332 and 334. It seems to me after reading all previous posts, that PHSL 300 papers require referencing other research papers in the final exam and so more difficult to get A+ than other 300 level papers. Would this be somewhat correct?

Thanks

 

[milo8867]

Hi guys,
I am also looking at picking papers for sem 2 and next year, and I was wondering if there was anyone who could tell me a bit about the pharmacology papers? I switched to PHAL211 last minute at the start of this year and I really loved it, so I want to try and continue with it this sem. I was just wondering if anyone knew about how the 300 level pharmacology papers were in terms of doing well in them? I am also looking at taking micr, phsl and anat papers and was wondering if anyone had any insight on ANAT 242, and whether it's a disadvantage to take a micr paper as it doesn't overlap too much with anat, phsl or pharm (and any advice on whether i should pick micr 222 or 223 would be much appreciated). Thank you!!!

 

[GuywithGlasses]

Hi guys,
I am also looking at picking papers for sem 2 and next year, and I was wondering if there was anyone who could tell me a bit about the pharmacology papers? I switched to PHAL211 last minute at the start of this year and I really loved it, so I want to try and continue with it this sem. I was just wondering if anyone knew about how the 300 level pharmacology papers were in terms of doing well in them? I am also looking at taking micr, phsl and anat papers and was wondering if anyone had any insight on ANAT 242, and whether it's a disadvantage to take a micr paper as it doesn't overlap too much with anat, phsl or pharm (and any advice on whether i should pick micr 222 or 223 would be much appreciated). Thank you!!!

Hi there,
I'm currently a pharmacology major in 3rd year so I might be able to help out a bit. For semester 2 this year, they've changed the 200 paper from PHAL212 to PHAL221. I can't really say anything about this because we didn't have this paper last year, but from what I've heard around the department, it seems like an elaboration to the drug discovery lectures that they had in PHAL211 (if they still had them).

As for the 300 PHAL papers, I've just taken 305 and 306 for the first semester, as well as 307 (which is a full year paper). 305 was a mission to do for lectures but especially for internal assessments. Final exam was pretty straightforward though and I managed to get an A+ in the paper overall. 306 was not as tough as 305 in terms of lecture content, but there is a damn manuscript and case study which took the life out of me and my lab partner. The second half of the paper is also a lot more interesting, especially if you enjoyed the toxicology stuff in PHAL211. The labs are pretty chill as well. Final exam seemed pretty straightforward as well, but I must have missed out on some stuff, as I only managed to get an A in the paper overall. 307 we haven't really done anything, but is promising to be very interesting.

I think for these 300 papers (any 300 papers tbh), you have GOT to be prepared for doing a bunch of assignments like reports and essays. These definitely take your time up, so make sure you try and get on top of these before exams so that you don't lose time revising for exams!

DM me if you need more details because I know this isn't really an extensive reply - this is just what I felt in general about these

 

[bangbang]

Hi there,

I was confused about whether I should take GENE222 or TOUR218 for semester 2 of my second year grad pathway for eventually admission into med. I have read a lot of positive reviews for GENE222 saying it's a very easy paper for an A+. But I was wondering how TOUR218 would be if anyone has taken it? Also are there any recommendations for some easy papers as I have one more to select? Cheers

Also would someone recommend taking a 300 level paper since it has more weightage in 2nd year or should I just leave those papers off for 3rd year? Would value some advise. )

 

[Fili]

Also would someone recommend taking a 300 level paper since it has more weightage in 2nd year or should I just leave those papers off for 3rd year? Would value some advise. )

You could do a 300 level paper this year since doing 4 300s in a semester is really, really difficult. Do mind though that doing a 300 this year doesn't guarantee that you'll do well in them since 300 level papers are harder. But getting an A on it just so you don't have to do 4 in one semester next year would be helpful.

I haven't heard much for Tour218 but my mates did gene222 and they said it was easy.