Admissions Centres Preferencing: General Discussion

[MyHeadee]

In which order does UNSW offer campus locations ? From my understanding, they take the top ranked students and offer CSP, the rest of the seats are offered BMP. But in this, do they fill out Kensington first, then Port, then Wagga? Thanks

 

[A1]

In which order does UNSW offer campus locations ? From my understanding, they take the top ranked students and offer CSP, the rest of the seats are offered BMP. But in this, do they fill out Kensington first, then Port, then Wagga? Thanks

I just checked, the UNSW webpage says you can indicate your Kensington/Port/Wagga preferences in the direct application. Let's say you rank 121st for the ~140 non-rural places, when it comes to your turn if Kensington has not been filled (after the first 120 places) you get Kensington, if it has they'll move to your next pref Port Macq and so on.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

I just checked, the UNSW webpage says you can indicate your Kensington/Port/Wagga preferences in the direct application. Let's say you rank 121st for the ~140 non-rural places, when it comes to your turn if Kensington has not been filled (after the first 120 places) you get Kensington, if it has they'll move to your next pref Port Macq and so on.

Do you reckon the 28% BMPs are split proportionally across the three locations? Or are they all (effectively, given likely preferencing) at Wagga/Port? And if done proportionally, do UNSW distribute by location or CSP in first instance? Ie. Kensington BMP vs Wagga CSP.

 

[A1]

Do you reckon the 28% BMPs are split proportionally across the three locations?

I can't say for sure but I don't think so^. They do split BMPs proportionally across rural/non-rural but that's because they are separate pools.

For the 140 non-rural places I think they simply allocate CSP to the top 100, BMP to 101-140, then go 1 to 140 on campus preferences.

Btw of last year's posted offers there were four : two CSP Port Macq (both rural), one BMP Port Macq, one BMP Wagga.

 

[MyHeadee]

But now it looks like UNSW won't release place offers until February (aka round2). A good strategy is to put WSU or JMP 1st pref for round1, then move UNSW to 1st pref for round2. This way you can get two offers and choose unbonded over bonded if they are as such.

Is this still true?

 

[emperortamarin]

probably a noob question but for my preferences, if the offer round is the same day (offers come at same time),
if i am lucky enough to get an offer for preference #1, does this mean i can't get an offer for preference #2 or #3...? or can i get offers for all?

does it vary depending on admissions centre?

 

[A1]

probably a noob question but for my preferences, if the offer round is the same day (offers come at same time),
if i am lucky enough to get an offer for preference #1, does this mean i can't get an offer for preference #2 or #3...? or can i get offers for all?
does it vary depending on admissions centre?

Not quite sure what you meant to ask so I'll provide all answers.
The TACs work independently of each other. If you mean different TACs have an offer round on the same day then yes, you can receive one offer from each.
Within one TAC you can only get ONE offer per offer round, which is the highest pref among the ones you qualify for.

To expand further, if you receive an offer for 2nd pref, potentially you can receive 1st pref offer in another round 2-3 weeks later.
If you receive 1st pref offer straight up and leave the prefs as is, you won't be considered for any more offer (since they are all lower prefs). But if after receiving 1st pref & accept/enrol in it you can shift it down to promote 2nd/3rd pref to now higher, then you can receive another offer in a later round for the promoted 1st pref.

 

[emperortamarin]

Not quite sure what you meant to ask so I'll provide all answers.
The TACs work independently of each other. If you mean different TACs have an offer round on the same day then yes, you can receive one offer from each.
Within one TAC you can only get ONE offer per offer round, which is the highest pref among the ones you qualify for.

To expand further, if you receive an offer for 2nd pref, potentially you can receive 1st pref offer in another round 2-3 weeks later.
If you receive 1st pref offer straight up and leave the prefs as is, you won't be considered for any more offer (since they are all lower prefs). But if after receiving 1st pref & accept/enrol in it you can shift it down to promote 2nd/3rd pref to now higher, then you can receive another offer in a later round for the promoted 1st pref.

sorry for the ambiguity in the question-

this is what i was after
"Within one TAC you can only get ONE offer per offer round, which is the highest pref among the ones you qualify for."

thanks for the help A1!

 

[A1]

On this note I like to explain a little more for general info.

Let's say UNSW has 150 non-rural places to offer. It doesn't necessarily mean you must rank 1st to 150th to get an offer. It could happen 30 of the UNSW's top 150 have pref'ed WSU higher (for its 5yr course) and they also qualify for WSU. UAC deliberately will not give them both offers, instead UAC only offers them WSU and allocates "their" 30 UNSW places to UNSW's 151st to 180th.

Place yourself in the position of those 151st to 180th, would you rather UAC does that so you get a UNSW offer, or UAC offers both to these dual-qualifiers and leaves you hanging?

 

[A1]

But now it looks like UNSW won't release place offers until February (aka round2). A good strategy is to put WSU or JMP 1st pref for round1, then move UNSW to 1st pref for round2. This way you can get two offers and choose unbonded over bonded if they are as such.

An update to this^. UNSW has released their plan for interviews & offers
> Important Dates | Medicine - UNSW Sydney

20 January : Invites sent (obviously they wait for ATAR release)
20-21 Jan : NSW/ACT interviews
25 Jan : Interstate interviews
26 Jan : UAC Jan round2 offers
3 & 10 Feb : UAC Feb round 1&2 offers

My comments:
- I think the UAC offer round dates are there just for reference, doesn't indicate which ones are used for NSW/ACT/Interstate offers
- Note how invites are sent on 20th and NSW/ACT interviews are on 20-21 Jan
- Can they really fit all NSW/ACT interviews into two days?

- More importantly, my suggested strategy above is workable. The earliest NSW offers can come out is 26 Jan (could be 3 Feb), so put WSU/JMP higher pref for Jan round1 offers, then switch UNSW to higher pref for Jan round2 (EtA: latest date to change prefs for this is 21 Jan). Good luck everyone.

 

[MyHeadee]

An update to this^. UNSW has released their plan for interviews & offers
> Important Dates | Medicine - UNSW Sydney

20 January : Invites sent (obviously they wait for ATAR release)
20-21 Jan : NSW/ACT interviews
25 Jan : Interstate interviews
26 Jan : UAC Jan round2 offers
3 & 10 Feb : UAC Feb round 1&2 offers

My comments:
- I think the UAC offer round dates are there just for reference, doesn't indicate which ones are used for NSW/ACT/Interstate offers
- Note how invites are sent on 20th and NSW/ACT interviews are on 20-21 Jan
- Can they really fit all NSW/ACT interviews into two days?

- More importantly, my suggested strategy above is workable. The earliest NSW offers can come out is 26 Jan (could be 3 Feb), so put WSU/JMP higher pref for Jan round1 offers, then switch UNSW to higher pref for Jan round2. Good luck everyone.

1. I just want to say, all you mod's are absolute saints, thank you all so much!
2. Isnt Jan round 1 on the 13th ? That is before atar release so how can JMP/JMP offer before they know who has met the atar hurdles?

 

[A1]

2. Isnt Jan round 1 on the 13th ? That is before atar release so how can JMP/JMP offer before they know who has met the atar hurdles?

Damn... I didn't think of that.
That means JPM/JMP can delay their offers to Jan round2 26 Jan, and UNSW also chooses this for NSW/ACT applicants (thus they rush their interviews to 20-21st). That would totally destroy my genius strategy haha.

 

[MyHeadee]

Damn... I didn't think of that.
That means JPM/JMP can delay their offers to Jan round2 26 Jan, and UNSW also chooses this for NSW/ACT applicants (thus they rush their interviews to 20-21st). That would totally destroy my genius strategy haha.

Let's just hope they can't do 600 interviews in 5 days lol, if that happens, I think your tactic is sweet.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Let's just hope they can't do 600 interviews in 5 days lol, if that happens, I think your tactic is sweet.

Discussion continued here: UNSW - UNSW Medicine: General Entry Questions and Discussion

 

[HenryJ]

An update to this^. UNSW has released their plan for interviews & offers
> Important Dates | Medicine - UNSW Sydney

20 January : Invites sent (obviously they wait for ATAR release)
20-21 Jan : NSW/ACT interviews
25 Jan : Interstate interviews
26 Jan : UAC Jan round2 offers
3 & 10 Feb : UAC Feb round 1&2 offers

My comments:
- I think the UAC offer round dates are there just for reference, doesn't indicate which ones are used for NSW/ACT/Interstate offers
- Note how invites are sent on 20th and NSW/ACT interviews are on 20-21 Jan
- Can they really fit all NSW/ACT interviews into two days?

- More importantly, my suggested strategy above is workable. The earliest NSW offers can come out is 26 Jan (could be 3 Feb), so put WSU/JMP higher pref for Jan round1 offers, then switch UNSW to higher pref for Jan round2 (EtA: latest date to change prefs for this is 21 Jan). Good luck everyone.

Hi,
It maybe silly question. If JMP put higher than UNSW, and then I get offer from JMP, can I also wait UNSW offer until JMP offer expire?

 

[A1]

Hi,
It maybe silly question. If JMP put higher than UNSW, and then I get offer from JMP, can I also wait UNSW offer until JMP offer expire?

Two possible scenarios :

1. In the Jan offer round you qualify for JMP but not UNSW - you accept/enrol JMP then move it to a lower pref to make UNSW 1st pref for the Feb offer round. If the interstate interviewees are not good enough to fill all the spots set aside for them you may get a UNSW offer in Feb, likely to be bonded though. Then you either decline the UNSW offer, or you enrol UNSW + withdraw from JMP.

2. You qualify for both JMP + UNSW - UAC will offer you JMP and indicate your UNSW pref as "qualified but not offered due to a higher pref". What worse is in this case, even if you move UNSW to 1st pref for the Feb offer round like above, UNSW won't consider you again because their view is you had declined their January offer to take JMP instead (I have UNSW confirmation of this in writing).

EtA: Direct answer to your question - No you cannot just sit on the JMP offer & wait for UNSW offer, because if UNSW remains lower pref than the JMP you've got you won't be considered. Got to move JMP lower (to make UNSW 1st pref), and I wouldn't do that unless I have accepted/enrolled in JMP.

 

[Bushywaltz]

Quick question about UAC Preferencing

As interview offers are released at different times, if Western Sydney was put as second preference below UNSW, would I still get the Western Sydney interview offer if I qualified? (I think Western Sydney interview offers come out much earlier than UNSW).
If not, does that mean it's better to put the uni that release interview offers first as first preference to maximise interview chance (interstate)?
Also, I have also put Usyd med down in my preferences, is it reasonable to put it as third preference (after all other undergrad med) as it won't require the UCAT?

 

[A1]

If not, does that mean it's better to put the uni that release interview offers first as first preference to maximise interview chance (interstate)?

Until recently we always advised that preferences only come into play when you get multiple place offers in a UAC/TAC offer round, they should not affect your "entitlement" to an interview if you make the interview selection cutoff.

But now we've been proved wrong. Griffith Dent has blatantly said higher prefs are favoured. There's some indication of CSU Dent doing that too. It now seems safer to place the school(s) about to release their invites at higher prefs, and change frequently to suit.

It shouldn't be that way, but if the schools decide to do that way unannounced we applicants just have to bend over to comply.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

I wouldn't say we've been proved wrong, as this has 100% been the case every year before now. It's rather that the rules of the 'game' have abruptly changed without much (possibly any in some cases if the CSU thing proves true - though there is still talk that there are more invites to come on that front) notice.

 

[polo16]

Hey, just heard from someone (not sure if its true) that UNSW has a preference for students putting UNSW as the first pref. Is that true? Surely not right?