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Auckland OLY1 chat - archive

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Lol looks like a lots of complaints over gen.ed. I picked econ at first coz i heard it was easy to get A plus. Then i skipped half the lectures, never done any notes/homework/quiz whatsoever. But when i started studying for the test this weekend i found myself enjoying it immensely!! I'm actually learning something that can be applied to REAL life (like how i should manage my savings to pay back the student loans lol).

Btw in the beginning of the year the econ class stats were 40% Biomed, 40% Engineering, and rest of them like some law/arts students. they rank us and pick ~top 10% for A+ grade. Looks like to get A+ is not that easy afterall. Nevertheless good luck to those doing the test this week!
 
Being back

I'm back people!!! hahahaha!!!!:lol:

Oh.. there are a lot of new people showing up.. haha. How are you guys!?! Feel quite happy seeing this site? Who broadcasted it? :mellow: hahahahaha

Well, good luck wid the remainder of the semester.
 
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ahh screw the gen ed, i hated the idea of it from the very start, just coz harvard does it doesnt mean we have to. im stuck doing assignments and labs about how we can communicate complex ideas to the general public, and thats all fine if only our lecturer wasnt this 170 year old epicly-slow speaking, lame, unbelievably boring statistician, i honeslty wonder how she can bear to be around herself all the time, each one of her lectures lasts an eternity and whats even worse is how the rest of the class can be so co-operative with the stupidest, most idiotic tasks she asks us to do.

What sux even more is that we have to bear 6 more lectures about pulmonology w/o Dr. Quilter :'(
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Well, I personally dont think quilter is good. haha.. the best i've seen so far is faull.. the best lecturers brings the hell out of students.. make them study thoroughly and dont tell answers.. a deep view, quilter is a typical lecturer who just colors things, speaks things in the textbook wid a little emotion and enthusiasm and using different terms and tell jokes.. that's all.. this is my opinion. I also hate the fact that he put things to 'not memorise'.. it's better to let the people study what they want to study within the scope and then test!! hehe.. just tell us what to study and not 'spoon feed'.. it's not HS anymore and Uni shud be on very far level.. We should study very deep details bcoz it is our job as scientists to know it by self.. and not just 'study for the test'..haha.. Also, ever since i started to study, i never colored and highlighted sh!ts .. it's messy and it's a waste of time.. and just sort things out.. haha..:lol:

Just wanted to give my honest opinion. :lol:
 
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BIOCHEM thingy

And ohh.. Biochem is far more bettererrrr than phy-sucks (oh physics).. hahaha! Biochem is fun!!! brought to you by:

"N-5, N-10 methylene tetrahydrofolate!"
 
while I do agree with you that colouring is a waste of time, it saddens me to see how the rest of the students go that extra mile just to make sure they have the exact same highlights as Quilter does it, I just think "Really guys? will you fail the course if you colour something green instead of blue?". Aw well

The thing is, all the medsci142 lectureres so far have been absolutely outstanding compared to the other courses (except for *COUGH*malpas*COUGH*), but i still think Quilter tops them all in his teaching style, others always went too fast, sorta like our first 4 lectures in 107 about histology, they honestly chose the wrong ones for the wrong time.

As for biochem, I gotta say its really boring, so far its mostly memorisng (which i dont mind) with little understanding, but the good thing is that the notes are complete, at least with our current lecturer they are, so it should be fine
 
BIOCHEM SUUUUCKSS. I get nothing by just reading the course guide and everything is over the place. the lecterer seems to tell us the tiniest details. It would sadden me if we really need to know that much. And what's up with that monotonic voice ....punctuated.....with....uhm....em...UMMM.... Its hard not to fall asleep in that lec. In comparison i agree that physics is much funner(at least this semester), although i hate them both:bored:
 
I think learning is NOT about just knowing what is needed to be known.. it's a bit lame to do that.. if we want to be successful, we need to learn everything about the topic ('fuse with the topic' I must say).. mastery of everything in a certain topic is very good. It leaves no blindspots for tricky questions to attack us during test.. So, whether or not the lecturer say it is important, we shud learn it.. That is why it is very easy to get an A+ bcoz lecturers here are 'spoon feeding' and they spoon feed what is needed to be known.. Because in the US, they dont give this kinds of 'baby sitting" scenarios.. they just say 'ALL IS IMPORTANT' which is very good standard of teaching students.. whether they understand a topic or not.. Uni life shud be very difficult to adjust the level of education every now and then.. details give a lot of things that will give you a very good edge in a test and life scenario..

That is why I love so much the question about EDEMA in the Medsci 142 Test.. hahahahaha!!!!! That separates the people who study detail and people who just study the coursebook and suggested pages..hahahahaha!!!(yy)

That's why when I become professor/lecturer/doctor (hopefully),, I'll make sure no one will perfect my test and everyone will get 10-13 marks minimum errors..to give them standard of learning.. hehehehe..

And by the way, biochem is not boring.. it's a test of how mind can withstand torsion.. hehehehehe..:lol:
 
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I quite like the vitamin stuff. It's pretty interseting. But the lecturer however...

And don't knock colouring in! My notes are pretty because of colouring in!

I thought the new lecturer would be bombastic lol, since his introduction only says that he's uncomfortable with evolution and ABHORZ teleology
 
olliefoundabeerholder said:
no biochem is boring. full stop(s).....ps. new medsci lecturer is a robot
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Totally agree:lol:! I don't think the medsci lecturers are spoon feeding us, they are just trying to make the subject more interesting. A successful lecturer should allow us to think and ponder the knowledge by ourselves but in order to do so they must inspire interest in students first. How many brilliant minds turn away from knowledge coz they met a crap teacher. And at first year I don’t think there are much for us to do individual thinking anyway. I’ve accepted that I’m no genius, and in this tight schedule it’s simply impossible to learn EVERYTHING about a topic, especially a topic that involves straight rote learn like biochemistry. Therefore prioritizing the time become important. Even say if I’m going to do research in this area, who knows how much I will still remember in 3 years time? (Maybe we can ask some of the medstudents here how much they still remember about the structures and reactions involved in the urea cycle). And to be practical if the top student in a class of >1000 student get 48/58 (a low A), it would be pretty tough for the uni to maintain its reputation and still run the course smoothly lol. Btw those are just some of my personal opinions.
 
Lol our new medsci lecturer looks like big boss from MGS4 (https://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/metalgear/images/8/80/Big_Boss_MGS4.jpg)

I dont think our lecturers are spoonfeeding us at all, and its unfair of them to ask us things that we wernt taught about (edemas, bradycardia etc), if you consider the amount of stuff you have to memorise in medsci, i think its only fair that they give us a few hints of what we dont need to know YET. With that said, apparently the memorising goes up by factors in medschool, but at least by then its all interesting and related topics, instead of some physics here, biochemical cycles there, all the data from pophlth, all the reactions from chem110 which we all forgot by now, and dealing with our dam gen ed courses. Sigh

Yo MBChB guys, why have you all disappeared? you know we're just 10 weeks away from our interviews (they'll go by like its 10 days) and i'm sure you know the paranoia thats gonna hit this thread by then ;)

BTW has anyone submitted their MH03 form? i think we should start working on it now
 
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Totally agree:lol:! I don't think the medsci lecturers are spoon feeding us, they are just trying to make the subject more interesting. A successful lecturer should allow us to think and ponder the knowledge by ourselves but in order to do so they must inspire interest in students first. How many brilliant minds turn away from knowledge coz they met a crap teacher. And at first year I don’t think there are much for us to do individual thinking anyway. I’ve accepted that I’m no genius, and in this tight schedule it’s simply impossible to learn EVERYTHING about a topic, especially a topic that involves straight rote learn like biochemistry. Therefore prioritizing the time become important. Even say if I’m going to do research in this area, who knows how much I will still remember in 3 years time? (Maybe we can ask some of the medstudents here how much they still remember about the structures and reactions involved in the urea cycle). And to be practical if the top student in a class of >1000 student get 48/58 (a low A), it would be pretty tough for the uni to maintain its reputation and still run the course smoothly lol. Btw those are just some of my personal opinions.
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hahahahahaha!!! I think our schedule is not tight at all.. when it comes to managing time talent and experience should come to play. Maintaining reputation is about how hard to survive in a certain Uni.. and lecturers should play a role in making it more challenging and pressing.. Not by making people breeze it.. I still believe it's a spoon feeding scenario. This is the first time I heard a college professor say: "You dont need to learn that"... which is bS.. hehehe.. well if a student is really really really good analytical thinker he may get 56/58 in tests.. that separates a really really good student, a good student, an okay-okay courseguide-based student and lastly, well... hehehehe
 
g.walker said:
Lol our new medsci lecturer looks like big boss from MGS4 (https://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/metalgear/images/8/80/Big_Boss_MGS4.jpg)

I dont think our lecturers are spoonfeeding us at all, and its unfair of them to ask us things that we wernt taught about (edemas, bradycardia etc), if you consider the amount of stuff you have to memorise in medsci, i think its only fair that they give us a few hints of what we dont need to know YET. With that said, apparently the memorising goes up by factors in medschool, but at least by then its all interesting and related topics, instead of some physics here, biochemical cycles there, all the data from pophlth, all the reactions from chem110 which we all forgot by now, and dealing with our dam gen ed courses. Sigh

Yo MBChB guys, why have you all disappeared? you know we're just 10 weeks away from our interviews (they'll go by like its 10 days) and i'm sure you know the paranoia thats gonna hit this thread by then ;)

BTW has anyone submitted their MH03 form? i think we should start working on it now
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I already finished mine.. someone is checking it.. hehehehe:lol:
 
but the thing is when Collin say "don't learn this" its more for the retards who simply go off and learn everything by heart and don't actually 'learn'...(y)

i only started thinking about my application this weekend haha
 
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hahahahahaha!!! I think our schedule is not tight at all.. when it comes to managing time talent and experience should come to play. Maintaining reputation is about how hard to survive in a certain Uni.. and lecturers should play a role in making it more challenging and pressing.. Not by making people breeze it.. I still believe it's a spoon feeding scenario. This is the first time I heard a college professor say: "You dont need to learn that"... which is bS.. hehehe.. well if a student is really really really good analytical thinker he may get 56/58 in tests.. that separates a really really good student, a good student, an okay-okay courseguide-based student and lastly, well... hehehehe
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I don't think having a 70% fail rate in a course maintains the reputation of a university. From what I've heard, its more research based which requires you to be much more proficient than just acing exams. Especially for undergrads, its just a place for people who want to learn and the lecturers/tutors facilitate that learning. Maybe he/shes saying you don't need to learn a certain thing because it's not essential in trying to convey the important information to you. And for many first year courses, not all people are like you and most people come from different backgrounds so the courses are probably designed to provide the basics for further study in science whatever, not just tailored for the all A+ student. Some might have not even studied science before so if you make it insanely difficult for them in a stage I paper, they probably won't pass. The lecturers might have more grounds to say get lost to the student in a stage II or III paper if they are not prepared to do the work but that's why they have pre-requisites like gpa requirements
 
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