[Undergrad] EAS/SCATS/UES/SEAS General Discussion and Enquiries

[kkkk]

Hey guys for UES will you be eligible for any adjustment factors for Flinders Med if one of your parents holds a healthcare concession card, on the website it says:
I am unsure if thats all you need or if there is more to it. Im applying interstate if that has any influence on it.

 

[A1]

Hey guys for UES will you be eligible for any adjustment factors for Flinders Med if one of your parents holds a healthcare concession card

I interpret that as one of your parents is sufficient, but it's best to call SATAC to ask directly and if they say yes, request an email for written confirmation.

 

[glm88888]

Does anyone know if the majority of students last year were able to apply for EAS due to COVID?

 

[Scrivo_72]

On VTAC it says you have to be currently getting benefits to be classified as financial disadvantage, but i think they are referring to year 12s so i contacted the admissions centre and they said you have to be receiving benefits within 3 months of the application. So say I didn't get youth allowance for year 12 but i got it after year 12 at the beginning of 2021, id be eligible to apply for financial disadvantage under youth allowance even though i didn't get the support in year 12. So from what she said, the circumstances you have post year 12 is what actually counts if your a gap year student? is there any gap year students who applied for SEAS and had the same issue? However, she may have not understood so i asked politely if i could be referred to someone else and she said "definitely not", which wasnt ideal.
Does anyone have any input?

 

[MyHeadee]

I put in my preferences last night, and later got an email that stated, due to my school's location, I'm automatically considered for EAS. I'm just wondering how many schools would be in this category? (My guess is plenty, so the benefit of anyone getting EAS becomes watered down, although idk why I'm considered for EAS, my school has barely been affected by COVID lockdowns and the like)

 

[chezpopcorn]

EAS eligibility doesn't guarantee that it will be applied. Whether or not EAS is applied is at the discretion of the particular uni/a particular uni's course. I remember talking to an admissions lady on the phone and she said that last year, you needed a certain # of disadvantage categories in order for EAS to be applied at USYD. In terms of medicine specifically, I remember seeing a document from a few years ago that stated that only EAS in certain categories were considered for UNSW med.

 

[MyHeadee]

EAS eligibility doesn't guarantee that it will be applied. Whether or not EAS is applied is at the discretion of the particular uni/a particular uni's course. I remember talking to an admissions lady on the phone and she said that last year, you needed a certain # of disadvantage categories in order for EAS to be applied at USYD. In terms of medicine specifically, I remember seeing a document from a few years ago that stated that only EAS in certain categories were considered for UNSW med.

So it should have minimal effect for most people? Sounds fair enough

 

[kaylene]

EAS eligibility doesn't guarantee that it will be applied. Whether or not EAS is applied is at the discretion of the particular uni/a particular uni's course. I remember talking to an admissions lady on the phone and she said that last year, you needed a certain # of disadvantage categories in order for EAS to be applied at USYD. In terms of medicine specifically, I remember seeing a document from a few years ago that stated that only EAS in certain categories were considered for UNSW med.

Did you apply for EAS? If so, do you mind sharing which categories you applied for? I completely understand if this is personal and you don't want to share

 

[MyHeadee]

Did you apply for EAS? If so, do you mind sharing which categories you applied for? I completely understand if this is personal and you don't want to share

I didn't apply for EAS, however, my UAC front page had a section that said that I'm automatically considered for EAS due to my school. Honestly, I don't understand why this is, but I have no intention of applying through EAS, I haven't been disadvantaged in such a way and, for me, the rurality is a big enough bonus regardless.

 

[kaylene]

I didn't apply for EAS, however, my UAC front page had a section that said that I'm automatically considered for EAS due to my school. Honestly, I don't understand why this is, but I have no intention of applying through EAS, I haven't been disadvantaged in such a way and, for me, the rurality is a big enough bonus regardless.

Oh, I was actually replying to ALT - but thanks for your input! Yes, I believe your rural status will be preferred at some universities such as JCU, so if you're planning to apply there, good luck with your application!

 

[chezpopcorn]

Did you apply for EAS? If so, do you mind sharing which categories you applied for? I completely understand if this is personal and you don't want to share

Yes I did: HO4A, HO1C, HO1D, PO1

 

[Miata]

I'm fairly sure EAS/SCATS only increases your ATAR/GPA. But it does have an indirect effect on UCAT since they work in combination for interview selection. Example : raw ATAR 98.0 + 90%ile with EAS = selection rank 99.6 + 90%ile is more competitive than a 99.0 + 92%ile (i.e. it doesn't need to increase your UCAT to make you more competitive than a 92%ile).

Hey A1, so does this mean that if I'm already either on an adjusted or unadjusted ATAR 99.95, the EAS won't really do much to improve my selection rank? It's primarily my UCAT score which I'm worried about.
Note: I'm referring specifically to UQ and UNSW in this case.

 

[A1]

Hey @A1, so does this mean that if I'm already either on an adjusted or unadjusted ATAR 99.95, the EAS won't really do much to improve my selection rank?

EAS is meant to compensate for educational disadvantages, namely low ATAR. If you got raw 99.95 or adjusted to 99.95 you weren't so disadvantaged, can't demand for extra "bonus" on top.

UCAT is supposedly an aptitude test not affected by educational disadvantages. Monash was the only uni I know of giving a lower UMAT cutoff to Monash Guarantee applicants, not sure if they still do with UCAT.

 

[Miata]

EAS is meant to compensate for educational disadvantages, namely low ATAR. If you got raw 99.95 or adjusted to 99.95 you weren't so disadvantaged, can't demand for extra "bonus" on top.

UCAT is supposedly an aptitude test not affected by educational disadvantages. Monash was the only uni I know of giving a lower UMAT cutoff to Monash Guarantee applicants, not sure if they still do with UCAT.

But don't rurals get a lower UCAT cut-off? What makes people who get EAS different?

 

[A1]

But don't rurals get a lower UCAT cut-off? What makes people who get EAS different?

You should read from this post down > Discussion: Rural Workforce Shortages and Rural Entry Pathways

to know that strictly speaking, rural entry is to attract students with some rural-living background, NOT to compensate for disadvantages.

Besides, rurals don't get set a lower UCAT cutoff (as compensation). Their lower UCAT cutoff is simply the result of fewer applicants competing, in a separate pool, for relatively more places available.

 

[kaylene]

Yes I did: HO4A, HO1C, HO1D, PO1

Thanks! Also, you mentioned that you saw a doc that said only certain categories of EAS were considered for UNSW Med - do you remember what other categories counted?

 

[MyHeadee]

You should read from this post down > Discussion: Rural Workforce Shortages and Rural Entry Pathways

to know that strictly speaking, rural entry is to attract students with some rural-living background, NOT to compensate for disadvantages.

Besides, rurals don't get set a lower UCAT cutoff (as compensation). Their lower UCAT cutoff is simply the result of fewer applicants competing, in a separate pool, for relatively more places available.

Idk if this is the appropriate place to be asking this. But, in general, application numbers seem to be going up.

I looked at UNSW, in 2018, there were 2020 local and 220 rural applications.
In 2021, there were 3300 local and 460 rural. Increase of 63% and 109% respectively over only 3 years!

 

[chezpopcorn]

Thanks! Also, you mentioned that you saw a doc that said only certain categories of EAS were considered for UNSW Med - do you remember what other categories counted?

No sorry I can't remember It is likely that it has changed since then, though.

 

[kaylene]

No sorry I can't remember It is likely that it has changed since then, though.

Oh, that's okay, thank you anyway

 

[kkkk]

Does western sydney consider EAS on top of GWS for applicants or nah?
Edit: This is inregards to FO1D