General Medicine Entry Discussion and Advice Requests

[DanielG28]

So i have put in my preferences for QLD medical school though QTAC but i have recently been told that i should also apply interstate just in case. However i don't really know much about the university interstate so i wanted to ask if anyone has any recommendation. I am looking for a med school which i can get immediate undergrad entry or provisional graduate entry from high school. I would preferably not be in a rural area. I am trying to create a list of 5 preferences for each state so any input would be greatly appreciated.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

So i have put in my preferences for QLD medical school though QTAC but i have recently been told that i should also apply interstate just in case. However i don't really know much about the university interstate so i wanted to ask if anyone has any recommendation. I am looking for a med school which i can get immediate undergrad entry or provisional graduate entry from high school. I would preferably not be in a rural area. I am trying to create a list of 5 preferences for each state so any input would be greatly appreciated.

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[Watermelon6520]

When you apply for medicine and dentistry to a university (e.g. JCU) via QTAC are you automatically applied to BMP and CSP or is there a way you have to apply for BMP separately.

 

[A1]

When you apply for medicine and dentistry to a university (e.g. JCU) via QTAC are you automatically applied to BMP and CSP or is there a way you have to apply for BMP separately.

Some schools (UQ/Adelaide) provide separate CSP & BMP course codes to enter into your TAC pref list.
Some schools provide one generic then you indicate in the direct application whether you'd accept BMP (UNSW/JMP iirc).
Some schools don't even ask, if you qualify they make the offer and if it's BMP that you're not interested in you can decline.

 

[Watermelon6520]

Thanks. So when you search up JCU on QTAC it has only CSP fee, so does that correspond to your third point of "some schools don't even ask"?

A1 adds: CSP here means CSP unbonded + CSP BMP (as opposed to FFP full fee). If QTAC says CSP fee they mean Not FFP fee and it includes BMP.

 

[Crow]

Thanks. So when you search up JCU on QTAC it has only CSP fee, so does that correspond to your third point of "some schools don't even ask"?

Effectively yes. If you're in the bottom 28.5% of JCU applicants offered a place, you'll automatically receive a BMP.

 

[Watermelon6520]

Effectively yes. If you're in the bottom 28.5% of JCU applicants offered a place, you'll automatically receive a BMP.

Ok got it, thank you!

 

[DanielG28]

Does any one have like a recommended university preference list for any of the states, just so i can have some idea of where to start?

 

[Scrivo_72]

Does any one have like a recommended university preference list for any of the states, just so i can have some idea of where to start?

Im not a mod but ill list the med unis and dent ones in each state.
Qld QTAC
JCU med/dent
Griffith med/dent
Bond med
Uq med/dent (bonded and non-bonded)
Cqu med (bonded and non-bonded)

Nsw UAC
UNSW med
JMP med
JPM med
USyd med / dent
Latrobe med (only for rural applicants)

SA SATAC
uni adelaide med/dent
Flinders med

WA TISC
Curtin med
Uni WA med/dent

Victoria VTAC
Monash
Uni Melb provisional
Latrobe med (only for rural applicants)

Tasmania
UTAS

 

[dotwingz]

JCU med/dent
Griffith med/dent
Bond med
Uq med/dent (bonded and non-bonded)
Cqu med (bonded and non-bonded)

Interesting choice putting Bond above UQ or CQU here

ETA: There’s also a guide between choosing different offers in my signature… Obv it’s highly personable and i believe the guide by Mana is too focused on being the youngest and shortest degree, but nonetheless it’s valuable

 

[Scrivo_72]

Interesting choice putting Bond above UQ or CQU here

Oh those aren’t my preferences, I’m just telling the universities that are available. I’m not putting bond in my preferences at all haha

 

[dotwingz]

Ohh ahaha, that makes more sense oop

 

[cocodreams]

Im not a mod but ill list the med unis and dent ones in each state.
Qld QTAC
JCU med/dent
Griffith med/dent
Bond med
Uq med/dent (bonded and non-bonded)
Cqu med (bonded and non-bonded)

Nsw UAC
UNSW med
JMP med
JPM med
USyd med / dent
Latrobe med (only for rural applicants)

SA SATAC
uni adelaide med/dent
Flinders med

WA TISC
Curtin med
Uni WA med/dent

Victoria VTAC
Monash
Uni Melb provisional
Latrobe med (only for rural applicants)

Tasmania
UTAS

I might be wrong, but when did Latrobe start offering medicine? They offer dentistry though

 

[ThunderDragon]

I might be wrong, but when did Latrobe start offering medicine? They offer dentistry though

They offer a provisional med program jointly with UniMelb for rural students only. There are about 15 spots I believe (or 30 can't remember). You do your first 3 years at La Trobe and provided u meet the minimum WAM requirement, progress onto the Doctor of Medicine at UniMelb Shepparton Campus.

 

[Scrivo_72]

They offer a provisional med program jointly with UniMelb for rural students only. There are about 15 spots I believe (or 30 can't remember). You do your first 3 years at La Trobe and provided u meet the minimum WAM requirement, progress onto the Doctor of Medicine at UniMelb Shepparton Campus.

Yea 15 spots

 

[Anonymous_0202]

I'm not sure if this question should belong in this discussion, but would anyone be able to explain to me what a BMP and CSP are? I'm still confused about like how you can apply for one and whether it may increase your chances of getting an offer or not? Thanks

 

[A1]

I'm not sure if this question should belong in this discussion, but would anyone be able to explain to me what a BMP and CSP are? I'm still confused about like how you can apply for one and whether it may increase your chances of getting an offer or not? Thanks

BMP = CSP + a contracted obligation to serve 3 years in doctor-shortage area(s) i.e. mostly non-metro.

If a school has say 140 places, the gov requires 28.5% = 40 places to be BMP. The school will allocate offers to applicants from top down - the highest qualified 100 get CSP, the lowest 40 get BMP.

If you don't select/apply for BMP you need to be in the top 100 to get an offer. With BMP you get an offer if you are 101st to 140th, thus the increased chance.

 

[Anonymous_0202]

BMP = CSP + a contracted obligation to serve 3 years in doctor-shortage area(s) i.e. mostly non-metro.

If a school has say 140 places, the gov requires 28.5% = 40 places to be BMP. The school will allocate offers to applicants from top down - the highest qualified 100 get CSP, the lowest 40 get BMP.

If you don't select/apply for BMP you need to be in the top 100 to get an offer. With BMP you get an offer if you are 101st to 140th, thus the increased chance.

Oh ok, that makes a lot more sense. Thanks for the response. How would I go about applying for a BMP?

 

[A1]

Oh ok, that makes a lot more sense. Thanks for the response. How would I go about applying for a BMP?

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Anonymous_0202
You seem like a noob I should add this bit. Where a school (UQ/Adelaide...) gives two separate CSP/BMP course codes you put them both into your pref list, but don't be silly to place BMP higher pref than CSP thinking it gives you more chance

If you did that you'd get BMP even when you qualify in the top 100 in my example. Adding BMP increases your chance, placing BMP higher pref does NOT while it cuts your CSP chance to zero.

 

[DanielG28]

I have made a ruff preference list and I would really appreciate any thought or suggestion on ways I could improve it,