General Medicine Entry Discussion and Advice Requests

[Crow]

If someone has completed the provisonal bachelors degree for a provisional medicine program are they allowed to take GAMSAT and apply to other unis?

Yes. I recommend reading the GEMSAS guide which outlines each uni’s policy.

 

[dotwingz]

Yes its very common at least at UQ. IIRC some places consider Flinders' program toi be medicine not provisional so you may experience hickups there...

 

[A1]

Yes its very common at least at UQ. IIRC some places consider Flinders' program toi be medicine not provisional so you may experience hickups there...

Provisionals at UQ, USyd, UWA, USC, UMelb 99+ can use their Bachelor degree to apply to other GAMSAT schools.

Flinders students can't because they don't have a Bach after two years. They'd need to complete Flinders MD1 then withdraw from the course to exit with a Bach (anyone brave enough to withdraw from Flinders MD to apply to other schools?)
> Bachelor of Clinical Sciences, Doctor of Medicine - Flinders University Students
"A student who withdraws from the double degrees program after successfully completing the first three years will be awarded the Bachelor of Clinical Sciences."

Griffith GC/Nathan provisionals can but have to delay a year. Iirc GEMSAS has a rule that graduates of 2yr accelerated degrees can only apply *after* they've graduated, not during their 2nd=final year.

 

[dotwingz]

Ah yes very true I forgot Flinders was a 2 year degree unlike Griffiths “3yearbutdonein2years” degree

 

[gljev]

Would anybody be willing to read through my UNSW med application and give some feedback? Thanks

 

[ucatboy]

Would anybody be willing to read through my UNSW med application and give some feedback? Thanks

Is the application still just a few non-assessed questions about yourself in 25 words?

 

[ucat3300+]

Hi. It was announced yesterday that NSW ATARs will be released on the 20th of January.

Wondering how this will impact entrance into interstate med/dent for NSW people.

For example, UQ dentistry has around 40 places each year, and this was my backup (no interview). Will they reserve some places for NSW people? (UQ Dent offer round is 13th of Jan. NSW ATARs come out 20th of Jan. Next QTAC offer round is 21st of Jan. Do we just hope enough people reject their 13th Jan offers? Or is there a possibility that the offer round gets delayed to accommodate for NSW people? I know no one can answer for sure, but nervous and want to hear peoples thoughts.)

In short, are NSW people screwed for interstate universities this year?

 

[gljev]

Is the application still just a few non-assessed questions about yourself in 25 words?

Yeah it is - that's why I wasn't too worried about it but everyone seems to be very careful with theirs

 

[maybeobsessed]

Hi. It was announced yesterday that NSW ATARs will be released on the 20th of January.

Wondering how this will impact entrance into interstate med/dent for NSW people.

For example, UQ dentistry has around 40 places each year, and this was my backup (no interview). Will they reserve some places for NSW people? (UQ Dent offer round is 13th of Jan. NSW ATARs come out 20th of Jan. Next QTAC offer round is 21st of Jan. Do we just hope enough people reject their 13th Jan offers? Or is there a possibility that the offer round gets delayed to accommodate for NSW people? I know no one can answer for sure, but nervous and want to hear peoples thoughts.)

In short, are NSW people screwed for interstate universities this year?

I have been wondering about this too. You are right, it’s impossible to know until the unis announce their plans. But I am interested in hearing others thoughts too.

Maybe the unis will do interviews and provisional offers on projected atars? Maybe Ucat will take on more importance?

 

[HAO]

Is anyone a medical student at Bonds University or know someone in that program?
Is it possible to be invited to sit the stage 2 test, with a GPA of 5.8 (on a 7 point scale)?
would appreciate a response, thank you!

 

[Caffeine]

Is anyone a medical student at Bonds University or know someone in that program?
Is it possible to be invited to sit the stage 2 test, with a GPA of 5.8 (on a 7 point scale)?
would appreciate a response, thank you!

It's possible but not a guarantee

 

[anony7]

does anyone know if the "student number" on the UAC sign-up portal is my USI or LUI number (queensland applicant)?

 

[SmoothCriminal]

Since IB results are released on the 3rd of January, is there a possibility that IB students are going to miss out on any offers or interview invites?

 

[HAO]

Since IB results are released on the 3rd of January, is there a possibility that IB students are going to miss out on any offers or interview invites?

i think you can get "predications" from your school or principle, which is a formal letter that you attach to your application.

 

[A1]

Since IB results are released on the 3rd of January, is there a possibility that IB students are going to miss out on any offers or interview invites?

Like in previous years USyd interviews are delayed for IBs, UNSW is delayed for NSW IBs, Monash only one day's notice for Vic IBs.

One school you could miss out is JCU. If your predicted misses out round1 invite, some get a round2 invite late December if their actual ATAR is higher than predicted. But IB result is too late for this round2.

 

[kkkk]

Hey could anyone provide with their thoughts regarding UMelb and Bond medical programs which are full fee paying for individuals who can not pay off the fee straight away, is it a smart idea to take out a loan, how hard is it to and is there any risk associated with that (e.g. UMelb has the whole interview thing).

 

[Caffeine]

Hey could anyone provide with their thoughts regarding UMelb and Bond medical programs which are full fee paying for individuals who can not pay off the fee straight away, is it a smart idea to take out a loan, how hard is it to and is there any risk associated with that (e.g. UMelb has the whole interview thing).

Sorry super long post but to summarize, it depends on if your willing to take some financial and time based risks initially and if your financial situation is strong enough to take that risk.

I will say it depends on your circumstance. I would not recommend trying either path if it puts yourself or your family in considerable financial strain. In terms of comparing Bond to UMelb, there are some key differences. The MMI for UMelb requires you to pass which from what I've heard from friends in the program is not as difficult as being competitive in other interviews for example at JMP. In saying that it does have some risk associated with it and it depends on the person. For Bond, you at least don't have to worry about that in saying that however, there is some risk although low that an internship is not guaranteed by the time you graduate. Same thing as can be said with UMelb if I'm correct with regards to internship due to it being FFP status at both universities.

A lot of people however do take loans to cover their degree costs as HECS-HELP does not cover a majority of the amount. I would recommend taking out the loan if you had other assets as a security such as a house etc but again that comes with a risk of losing those assets. The interest rate for the loans in particular can make it extremely challenging paying of the loans as it's not similar to the inflation based interest rate basically of HELP loans. By taking such a loan if there are any problems such as a loss of a job it can greatly increase the debt you incur and could even make it extremely challenging to pay the course off. With an asset if you have any which covers the cost of the loan even in that case you could theoretically pay off the loan in case of emergencies but there are severe consequences with that too particularly if it's a house as the backing asset.

If your able to and it doesn't put any significant financial strain it might be worth pursuing these options but there are significant risks as well such as the potential for an much larger debt due to interest rates then what you borrowed, a potential of no internship although low but the climate when you graduate could change drastically hence important to consider. It might be wiser to try with the UCAT or GAMSAT for an additional year rather than incur such as a large debt. Even when you graduate you should also note that if you have HELP loan in particular a sizeable portion of that will be taken out of your salary automatically. Furthermore the salaries once you graduate in particular immediately are no where near the salaries quoted in media articles and whilst quite good are not sizeable enough to cover the loans within a 5 year time frame as some people might believe especially due to the length of training programs and the no of years it takes to be competitive to get into some of them.

 

[A1]

who can not pay off the fee straight away, is it a smart idea to take out a loan, how hard is it to

Bond's fee is ~$400k, UMelb FFP ~$250k. You can put into FEE-HELP up to (I think) $140k, the rest plus $20k/year living expenses you need to come up with. Unlike student loans in the US i don't know of any available from banks/finance companies here. It's usually from parents' pockets or parents taking a 2nd mortgage on their house.

 

[ucatboy]

Bond's fee is ~$400k, UMelb FFP ~$250k. You can put into FEE-HELP up to (I think) $140k, the rest plus $20k/year living expenses you need to come up with. Unlike student loans in the US i don't know of any available from banks/finance companies here. It's usually from parents' pockets or parents taking a 2nd mortgage on their house.

UniMelb looks to be ~$330k going off of the website, and that's before you add the 33k of the first three years of Biomed/Science.

Doctor of Medicine

Discover course structure, entry requirements & how to apply to doctor of medicine, offering you a fresh approach to medical training.

study.unimelb.edu.au

 

[yessirski]

I am planning on doing SAT in December because a friend of mine said that UAC can do a best of hsc or sat score in determining selection rank. I was wondering if anyone knows what a 99.6+ SAT score equivalent would be around? I plan on applying for UNSW med.