Griffith Griffith Dentistry: Admissions General Discussion

[Nirav1985]

This is going to be a long and stress fuelled 5 days haha - do the QTAC offers come out at 7:30 like UAC?

Edit - last year was 9am and this years December offers were 10am

aparently

This is going to be a long and stress fuelled 5 days haha - do the QTAC offers come out at 7:30 like UAC?

Edit - last year was 9am and this years December offers were 10am

actually seven days for UAC, provided they release it on 11th.
Lol.... nail biting..

 

[Dentine]

aparently

actually seven days for UAC, provided they release it on 11th.
Lol.... nail biting..

Sorry I was referring to the 5 days after UAC, I have only applied through QTAC unfortunately so I guess 11 days for me haha

 

[Dentine]

This is my experience with the whole application this year.
Griffith has always been open and honest with their application process. Surprisingly one of the very few universities who are this honest and transparent with their process.
I was under the similar situation where I completed my bachelor of medical science from the University with GPA 6.5
Then since it was not enough to get into Griffith, I enrolled and started studying full time another science degree from the same university. I applied and got credit from Med science degree for 16 subjects and all being HDs, so technically I was going to complete my bachelors of science degree in one year, this year (2years worth credit and one fresh year from science degree). Fortunately I scored all HDs in all 8 subjects for science degree.
I applied to Griffith and asked the admission office their, they clearly advised me that Griffith plays fair with all students. Since I have got credit from previous degree, they will not look in to my Grades from it. Instead they will count only those subjects from the science degree.
The reason being, if Griffith were to just look at your transcript regardless of credited subjects, then it will be unfair for those who are just having completing their first year at their first degree, or students fresh from their high school.
Everyone can easily get all HDs from one degree and not get any HDs or just a few HDs and still considered 7 GPA.
So then I requested my uni and requested them to remove all my credited subjects and had only those subjects left on my transcript purely studies this year as a part of science degree.
For me I was not going to be disadvantaged as I completed one year full time studies from science degree and all HDs.
I understand this may sound unfair for some people. But I think this is the fairest of all. I agree how hard it is to get all 8 HDs. But so does it is equally hard to get 99.65 or above ATAR.
I hope this helps.

Hey Nirav! I'm just a little confused about the point highlighted in bold as I noticed you then removed all your credit. Did admissions say they do not calculate credit if you have done 8 units full time in your current degree?

Or is this only the case for people who have not done 1 year full time in their applying degree?

Thanks

 

[Dentine]

1. Yes
2. If you have less than 1FTE of study then I believe you’re ineligible (Yamster can confirm). If a first and second+ year student have the same GPA and they need to decide between them, they will take the student with more study. Otherwise, if you have 1FTE of study then you’ll just need to meet the cutoff GPA for that year (I.e. a student that has completed first year wouldn’t need a higher GPA than other students).

Hope that makes sense.

Hi Crow, do you know if this secondary factor is confirmed? Ie 1 year FTE of 7 vs 1.5 year FTE of 7

Cheers

 

[cbeuxbhe283924]

how many places are there for griffith dentistry and usually how many non-standard vs standards places/offers

 

[Crow]

Hi Crow, do you know if this secondary factor is confirmed? Ie 1 year FTE of 7 vs 1.5 year FTE of 7

Cheers

I’m not 100% certain but I believe it to be correct (we don’t get much data on Griffith dentistry entrance on here) - I’ve also read that the GPA from the most recent year of study can also be considered as a secondary discriminator. If you do have a GPA of 7 (as calculatey by Griffith/QTAC) then there’s no need to stress, though - I can’t see a scenario where a GPA 7 misses out on a place offer, tbh.

how many places are there for griffith dentistry and usually how many non-standard vs standards places/offers

60 places rings a bell, but I’ll need to confirm that. The majority go to non-standard applicants, from what I’ve read - possibly 2/3 non-standards and 1/3 school-leavers in recent years? Maybe kyleb can give you a more definitive answer for these questions.

 

[Nirav1985]

Hey Nirav! I'm just a little confused about the point highlighted in bold as I noticed you then removed all your credit. Did admissions say they do not calculate credit if you have done 8 units full time in your current degree?

Or is this only the case for people who have not done 1 year full time in their applying degree?

Thanks

Initially I was not aware about any of the Griffith’s admission criteria. I had 16 subjects credited (all HDs) from my Med Science. And I did one year full time studies from Science degree. I was thinking I will graduate in one year (this year) with 7 GPA.
Upon talking to Griffith, they advised me since I got credited from Med Science, Griffith with combine my GPA from medscience (6.5) and my science (7) and will take the mean GPA (6.5+7/2) and this way my GPA will be less that 7.
They also advised me since I have completed my full year for science degree and have 7 GPA, it is best of my interest to request my uni (CSU) to remove all credited subjects and have only science degree subject. Like a fresh degree with no Credited subjects. I followed their advise and now my transcripts has only 8 subjects in Bachelor of Science degree.

Here is the another information from UAC and QTAC. Both of them said the to me that they do not count on any credited subjects from the previous degree and that when they assess my application for Griffith, they just take in to consideration for only subjects that have been completed in one degree. That way regardless me having credited or not credited from medscience, it will not make any difference. They both further admitted that they follow Griffith’s instructions and that they prepare the application assessment based on each university’s requirements.

I was but confused as Griffith advised to remove credit whereas both UAC and QTAC said it will not make any difference. Regardless I just got my credited subjects removed.
And then requested both UAC and QTAC to ask my CSU to get the new transcript so that they will assess and have new transcripts for Griffith too. I must say that Both UAC and QTAC, it was very hard and labouring to convince them to ask for the new transcripts from CSU as they both were so convinced that it is not necessary. But I believe they eventually opted a latest transcript from CSU.
I hope I am making sense. I can talk to you over the phone if you want better explanation.

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Hey Nirav! I'm just a little confused about the point highlighted in bold as I noticed you then removed all your credit. Did admissions say they do not calculate credit if you have done 8 units full time in your current degree?

Or is this only the case for people who have not done 1 year full time in their applying degree?

Thanks

I m not sure how that text appeared in bold. Sorry. I use my phone to access this website. May be I just accidentally clicked some key and all text become bold. I never noticed this.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

I m not sure how that text appeared in bold. Sorry. I use my phone to access this website. May be I just accidentally clicked some key and all text become bold. I never noticed this.

I suspect Dentine highlighted the text deliberately to make it easier to point out to you/ask questions about.

 

[Nirav1985]

I suspect Dentine highlighted the text deliberately to make it easier to point out to you/ask questions about.

Thank you. This shows my comgitive impairments.
Lol

 

[Dentine]

I’m not 100% certain but I believe it to be correct (we don’t get much data on Griffith dentistry entrance on here) - I’ve also read that the GPA from the most recent year of study can also be considered as a secondary discriminator. If you do have a GPA of 7 (as calculatey by Griffith/QTAC) then there’s no need to stress, though - I can’t see a scenario where a GPA 7 misses out on a place offer, tbh.


60 places rings a bell, but I’ll need to confirm that. The majority go to non-standard applicants, from what I’ve read - possibly 2/3 non-standards and 1/3 school-leavers in recent years? Maybe kyleb can give you a more definitive answer for these questions.

Thanks Crow, I do have a 7 as calculated by QTAC, is there a way to get Griffith to give you there calculation? I assumed Griffith use the QTAC calc but I’m seeing a few posts saying they then use their own method?

 

[Dentine]

Thanks Nirav, I get exactly what you mean.

Was this specific dental admission staff you gained this info from? Or just general Griffith staff and we’re your credited units transferred with a grade next to them?

I was weirdly told by Griffith that credit is not counted unless your wanting to combine two incomplete degrees

Was your med sci degree a complete degree or incomplete?

I find it bizarre that qtac can be adamant that it’s not counted then Griffith say it is. If they do then I’ll lose my potential offer on a technicality where I could have simply removed the credit. Is anyone else in a similar situation with credit on their degree? Or was in this situation last year? Would be good to get some insight

Cheers

 

[Crow]

Thanks Crow, I do have a 7 as calculated by QTAC, is there a way to get Griffith to give you there calculation? I assumed Griffith use the QTAC calc but I’m seeing a few posts saying they then use their own method?

I think it's more that Griffith have the option to calculate scores as they please if they want to do it differently to how QTAC has done it - I think for the most part Griffith will just use what QTAC has, but different institutions sometimes rank applicants differently depending on the course, as well as the applicant's tertiary record. An example would be that someone with a first class (standalone) honours is given a GPA of 7 when applying to Griffith dentistry, but if they applied to JCU dentistry their academic rank would only be calculated based off the results in their undergraduate degree. QTAC's calculated selection rank for this applicant would probably come from a combination of the undergrad degree and the honours result; therefore Griffith and JCU have both ranked this applicant in a different way to how QTAC did. [Please note that I am no expert on this particular matter and if someone else has more information, I'd be pleased to hear it.]

As for asking Griffith how they have calculated your GPA, I doubt that they would provide you with any information, but there would be no harm in asking.

 

[Missiee]

how many places are there for griffith dentistry and usually how many non-standard vs standards places/offers

I’m not 100% certain but I believe it to be correct (we don’t get much data on Griffith dentistry entrance on here) - I’ve also read that the GPA from the most recent year of study can also be considered as a secondary discriminator. If you do have a GPA of 7 (as calculatey by Griffith/QTAC) then there’s no need to stress, though - I can’t see a scenario where a GPA 7 misses out on a place offer, tbh.


60 places rings a bell, but I’ll need to confirm that. The majority go to non-standard applicants, from what I’ve read - possibly 2/3 non-standards and 1/3 school-leavers in recent years? Maybe kyleb can give you a more definitive answer for these questions.

It’s definitely more than 60. This is from last years cohort: (or so what Qtac has supplied) if you click on the student profile tab it will give you a break down. However, apparently Griffith is a bit on the hush hush about international student numbers. Previous years have also ran around 110/120/107 cohorts.

Course search - QTAC

 

[Crow]

It’s definitely more than 60.

To clarify, I was referring to the domestic student count. The excel file tells me there were 65 enrollments, so I wasn't too far off!
Application stats for 2014-16 - QTAC --> Data --> Semester 1 2018 --> Table 2A --> Row 508

ETA: The link you've supplied lists place offers, rather than final enrollment numbers, from my understanding.

 

[Missiee]

To clarify, I was referring to the domestic student count. The excel file tells me there were 65 enrollments, so I wasn't too far off!
Application stats for 2014-16 - QTAC --> Data --> Semester 1 2018 --> Table 2A --> Row 508

ETA: The link you've supplied lists place offers, rather than final enrollment numbers, from my understanding.

Sorry! I didn’t mean it to come across in a bad way. My partners in 4th year currently and they started off with 120 (total #) majority are international/non school leavers

 

[Crow]

Sorry! I didn’t mean it to come across in a bad way. My partners in 4th year currently and they started off with 120 (total #) majority are international/non school leavers

It definitely didn't, no need for apologies! Yes, no doubt they're making a fair amount of $$ with the final 2 years being FFP and having a bunch of international enrollments too!

 

[sal123]

I think it's more that Griffith have the option to calculate scores as they please if they want to do it differently to how QTAC has done it - I think for the most part Griffith will just use what QTAC has, but different institutions sometimes rank applicants differently depending on the course, as well as the applicant's tertiary record. An example would be that someone with a first class (standalone) honours is given a GPA of 7 when applying to Griffith dentistry, but if they applied to JCU dentistry their academic rank would only be calculated based off the results in their undergraduate degree. QTAC's calculated selection rank for this applicant would probably come from a combination of the undergrad degree and the honours result; therefore Griffith and JCU have both ranked this applicant in a different way to how QTAC did. [Please note that I am no expert on this particular matter and if someone else has more information, I'd be pleased to hear it.]

As for asking Griffith how they have calculated your GPA, I doubt that they would provide you with any information, but there would be no harm in asking.

I might've misunderstood so any clarification would be most helpful - you said griffith will just use what QTAC has but when I contacted QTAC they said my GPA is a 6 (i got first class honours but got below 85), but i thought griffith awarded a GPA of 7 no matter what mark you got as long as it is first class honours... based off what you said would griffith follow QTAC's calculation or their own calculation?

 

[Dentine]

I might've misunderstood so any clarification would be most helpful - you said griffith will just use what QTAC has but when I contacted QTAC they said my GPA is a 6 (i got first class honours but got below 85), but i thought griffith awarded a GPA of 7 no matter what mark you got as long as it is first class honours... based off what you said would griffith follow QTAC's calculation or their own calculation?

I could be wrong but I think crow was saying that generally for example with normal bachelors degrees Griffith will use the QTAC calculation but because they have that honours rule, then they will see it’s honours on your application and use the class

 

[sal123]

I could be wrong but I think crow was saying that generally for example with normal bachelors degrees Griffith will use the QTAC calculation but because they have that honours rule, then they will see it’s honours on your application and use the class

yeah i think youre probably right.

With the first round offers coming out so soon im just stressing, thinking of all worst case scenarios that might happen.. Gonna be a long 11 days haha kinda regret not applying to UAC

 

[Crow]

Yep, what Dentine said. For school-leavers and those with a simple tertiary record (i.e. a single bachelor’s degree) I’d imagine they just use the QTAC calculation. For those with a more complicated tertiary record (i.e. honours, masters, PhDs, multiple bachelor’s degrees etc), the universities may choose to calculate your entry rank differently - see my example above RE: Griffith vs JCU dentistry.