Griffith Griffith Dentistry: Admissions General Discussion

[Nirav1985]

Hi All,
Trust everyone had a nice Christmas break. I just thought I'd mention that on my QTAC portal, Griffith is now Satisfied. Not really sure what this means in substance though.

Hi there,
Yes, mine also says ‘satisfied’.
I think it means that we have met the entry requirements. It does not mean that we have got the admission though.

 

[Crow]

Hi All,
Trust everyone had a nice Christmas break. I just thought I'd mention that on my QTAC portal, Griffith is now Satisfied. Not really sure what this means in substance though.

I assume you mean it says this next to Entry Requirements? If so, I believe it just means that they've assessed your application and determined that you meet the pre-requisites i.e. one of chemistry/biology/physics/Maths B in this case.

ETA: This is purely based off what I observed when applying to JCU last year - I had satisfied the entry requirements before interview invites had even been released (I.e. well before the place offer stage). If Griffith does things differently for dentistry, I wouldn't know.

 

[Dr Dent]

Idk Crow because even when it was pending, the prerequisite had yes next to them. Griffith is different because when I called QTAC they said they send to Griffith all the ones that QTAC has assessed as having a rank of 99. Griffith then assesses each of these applications to determine offers and to sub-rank the 99s. I feel like for Griffith if it says Satisfied, then you can expect an offer mainly because the uni itself assesses it. On the other hand UQ for instance relies on QTAC to do the ranking so the fact it says satisfied does not take into account umat ranking. That's just my 2 cents and I may be wrong.

I assume you mean it says this next to Entry Requirements? If so, I believe it just means that they've assessed your application and determined that you meet the pre-requisites i.e. one of chemistry/biology/physics/Maths B in this case.

Griffith dent doesn't have prerequisites other than English.

 

[A1]

I feel like for Griffith if it says Satisfied, then you can expect an offer mainly because the uni itself assesses it. On the other hand UQ for instance relies on QTAC to do the ranking so the fact it says satisfied does not take into account umat ranking. That's just my 2 cents and I may be wrong.

I tend to think the Satisfied status is entered by QTAC not the school and reflects only QTAC's determination relative to the entry requirements, which is OP1/Rank 99 in this case. But not 100% sure so won't push the point. I make this reply to say I don't think any school relies on the TAC to do the final ranking for them.

 

[Nirav1985]

Idk Crow because even when it was pending, the prerequisite had yes next to them. Griffith is different because when I called QTAC they said they send to Griffith all the ones that QTAC has assessed as having a rank of 99. Griffith then assesses each of these applications to determine offers and to sub-rank the 99s. I feel like for Griffith if it says Satisfied, then you can expect an offer mainly because the uni itself assesses it. On the other hand UQ for instance relies on QTAC to do the ranking so the fact it says satisfied does not take into account umat ranking. That's just my 2 cents and I may be wrong.


Griffith dent doesn't have prerequisites other than English.

I honestly wish what you saying or guessing is true. Lol as I m in the same boat as you.
But my feeling is ‘satisfied’ meaning we just meet the entry requirements. And this does not mean we have got the admission.
Last year and year before and the year before, all three occasions, Griffith on QTAC said ‘satisfied’, I still did not receive the offer. And my GPA has been 5.75, 6.30 and 6.5 respectively.
This year it is 7.0 so hoping what you guessing will somehow become true.
Lol.

 

[Dr Dent]

Oh right Nirav1985. I think if we take your experience into account then I'm wrong. I think we should both get offers since we both have GPA 7. I wouldn't stress too much.

Did you apply through Qtac or Uac? I applied through both. I think Uac offers come out on 11 Jan right?

 

[Nirav1985]

Oh right Nirav1985. I think if we take your experience into account then I'm wrong. I think we should both get offers since we both have GPA 7. I wouldn't stress too much.

Did you apply through Qtac or Uac? I applied through both. I think Uac offers come out on 11 Jan right?

Hahaha. No my friend, I still don’t know what it actully mean by being ‘satisfied’. I will not go in deeper in this and just finger crossed for the positive outcome.

Yes, I applied through both, UAC and QTAC.
I was bit worried that uni may void my application since I applied through both (it’s just me being thinking in extreme cases what can go horribly wrong this time for me). I also spoke to Qtac and Griffith admission team on few occasions. Alll the time both said, I m not the first one to apply through both UAC and QTAC. What Griffith does is that they send an offer via both UAC and QTAC. It is up to candidate which offer to accept. In case if the candidate accepts both the offers then Griffith will culinate those duplicate applications, and just keeps the one. So that in the next offer round they can have an empty spot for the next deserving candidate.
Also Griffith advice me to accept the offer (if at all I get it) from UAC then remove my option from QTAC (since QTAC releases the offer few days later, or do not accept the offer from QTAC at all), that way Griffith has less work to do.
In whatever case, I m just anxiously waiting for 11th January 2019 at 7:30 am and find out where I stand. I extremely try hard not to think anything until then. Lol sometimes I wake up with the dream of getting admission and on other nights I wake with having not getting admission. Haha. Real anxiety hey.

 

[Dr Dent]

All the best Nirav1985 I'm sure your hard work will pay off this time. Fingers crossed for 11 Jan.

 

[Nirav1985]

Thank you friend.
And I wish the very best of luck. You are very intelligent person. I m sure you will get into UQ and Adeleide. You don’t need luck for Griffith, as you are guaranteed there.
Keep in touch hey.

 

[hyperbole]

Hi All,
Trust everyone had a nice Christmas break. I just thought I'd mention that on my QTAC portal, Griffith is now Satisfied. Not really sure what this means in substance though.

I checked out the QTAC preferences.
When you click on "more information" link in the entry requirements box, there seems to be information on what was satisfied. There should be a "satisfied" noted for the criteria satisfied.
The criteria are: "Applicant must be 17" "English (4,SA)" & "English Language Proficiency Type 1". All of these are satisfied.
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However, when I click on other preference(that isn't Griffith Dent), there is an additional criteria for "Minimum OP/rank to be considered for an offer". For that, I have all of them noted as "satisfied" except for one which is "Decision pending".

So based on that info, I got two things. (1) I should get an offer from a "backup" if I don't get into dentistry. (2) Griffith Dentistry doesn't want that information revealed, at least on the QTAC preferences website in regards to minimum OP/rank.

So I'm not sure if satisfying the supposed "entry requirements" for Griffith Dentistry means too much though (unlike the other courses)

Idk Crow because even when it was pending, the prerequisite had yes next to them.

Sorry for the double post but I can't find the edit button(for my previous post). I should have read the whole thread until the last post for me to comment.

Ooh, if that is the case, that may be.. interesting . I didn't really pay attention to the satisfied entry requirements prior to checking just then. We'll have to wait and see then.

 

[am_z_hope]

Hi guys! So I have a question, super confused with this qtac rankings... so my best friend applied for Griffith dent, she has a full year of study with a GPA of 7 from la trobe, but she did 5 units of bachelor of health science and then she transferred to do the bachelor of food and nutrition (at la trobe also) with those 5 units being credited into the bachelor of food and nutrition and then took 3 units within the food and nutrition course.

All up, she has 8 units of study for the year all subjects HD’s and therefore a GPA 0f 7. But qtac has given her 2 ranks saying that she transferred from one course to another although those 5 units she got credit for are the same units that she needed to do for the bachelor of food and nutrition too.
So her ranking for the bachelor of health science although she got all HD’s for all 5 units she has been ranked 88 on qtac coz it’s a incomplete year.

Then the 3 units from the food and nutrition was given a ranking of 85 although again it’s all HD’s and a gpa of 7. (Because it’s less than a semesters worth).

Has anyone ever been in this situation or do you know anyone who has been in this situation? Does Griffith actually look at the qtac ranking or do they actually look at the proper GPA?
Qtac keeps giving her wrong information saying that her highest ranking is 88 but ideally it should be 99 as she has a gpa of 7!

Any help is much appreciated! Thanks heaps!

 

[Dr Dent]

Given that your friend transferred, QTAC will see the marks as two separate results from the two degrees irrespective of the fact that she got them credited. When you get a unit credited, you don't get a mark assigned so in QTAC's your friend has not done a full year worth of study for one course. Unfortunately, that means she is most likely ineligible for Griffith. I know it may sound rather unfair. Griffith I believe first look at QTAC ranking where you are required to have a 99 rank. After that, they apply a secondary rank and basically rank everyone who applied that have a 99 rank. Hope that makes sense to you.

 

[am_z_hope]

Given that your friend transferred, QTAC will see the marks as two separate results from the two degrees irrespective of the fact that she got them credited. When you get a unit credited, you don't get a mark assigned so in QTAC's your friend has not done a full year worth of study for one course. Unfortunately, that means she is most likely ineligible for Griffith. I know it may sound rather unfair. Griffith I believe first look at QTAC ranking where you are required to have a 99 rank. After that, they apply a secondary rank and basically rank everyone who applied that have a 99 rank. Hope that makes sense to you.

Thanks for the reply! But the thing is she spoke to Griffith admissions and they said that if it’s from the same university they will combine it together to give one ranking (from their end). They also told her that they have their own way of looking at it regardless of how he tac ranks it.It’s just confusing how qtac says one thing and Griffith says another thing, if you know what I mean?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Thanks for the reply! But the thing is she spoke to Griffith admissions and they said that if it’s from the same university they will combine it together to give one ranking (from their end). They also told her that they have their own way of looking at it regardless of how he tac ranks it.It’s just confusing how qtac says one thing and Griffith says another thing, if you know what I mean?

We've had issues previously with people speaking to general admissions staff who are not well versed in the specifics of Med and Dent admissions that often have additional peculiarities. Do you happen to know if she spoke to someone specifically from Dental admissions from Griffith? And whether she has their advice in writing?

 

[Dr Dent]

Don't take what I say as gospel but one can do two degrees at the same university and I'm pretty sure admissions will look at those as two separate degrees. If your friend actually got the marks credited over to her new degree, then it might actually constitute a full year's study. But my experience with credits are that they don't move the marks over from the previous degree. Also, most unis do not use credited results in their GPA calculations. Someone else may know more.

 

[am_z_hope]

We've had issues previously with people speaking to general admissions staff who are not well versed in the specifics of Med and Dent admissions that often have additional peculiarities. Do you happen to know if she spoke to someone specifically from Dental admissions from Griffith? And whether she has their advice in writing?

Thanks for replying LMG! Ok so she spoke to admissions and then the admissions coordinator has called her back to assure of all of this to make sure that she is not disadvantaged. Apparently what they told her was that they look at each application regardless of the tac rankings, and that if the courses are from the same university they combine it. But maybe I will ask her to call again next week to check with dent and med admissions?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Don't take what I say as gospel but one can do two degrees at the same university and I'm pretty sure admissions will look at those as two separate degrees. If your friend actually got the marks credited over to her new degree, then it might actually constitute a full year's study. But my experience with credits are that they don't move the marks over from the previous degree. Also, most unis do not use credited results in their GPA calculations. Someone else may know more.

This is my experience at UTAS also (crediting units completed in a BHealth to a PGDip Health and Human Services).

 

[am_z_hope]

This is my experience at UTAS also (crediting units completed in a BHealth to a PGDip Health and Human Services).

Yep that’s right and that’s what I know too. However, what they mean is that they will still consider it as 1 year full time study with a GPA of 7. Because she completed 8 units.
On her transcript that she showed me, it’s all under one transcript the 8 units, but shows it within the 2 courses. The credits she got for the food and nutrition course were basically the exact same units as per the core units of that course, so the units are all the same too. So it’s a bit confusing and a unique situation also I think?

 

[Nirav1985]

Hi guys! So I have a question, super confused with this qtac rankings... so my best friend applied for Griffith dent, she has a full year of study with a GPA of 7 from la trobe, but she did 5 units of bachelor of health science and then she transferred to do the bachelor of food and nutrition (at la trobe also) with those 5 units being credited into the bachelor of food and nutrition and then took 3 units within the food and nutrition course.

All up, she has 8 units of study for the year all subjects HD’s and therefore a GPA 0f 7. But qtac has given her 2 ranks saying that she transferred from one course to another although those 5 units she got credit for are the same units that she needed to do for the bachelor of food and nutrition too.
So her ranking for the bachelor of health science although she got all HD’s for all 5 units she has been ranked 88 on qtac coz it’s a incomplete year.

Then the 3 units from the food and nutrition was given a ranking of 85 although again it’s all HD’s and a gpa of 7. (Because it’s less than a semesters worth).

Has anyone ever been in this situation or do you know anyone who has been in this situation? Does Griffith actually look at the qtac ranking or do they actually look at the proper GPA?
Qtac keeps giving her wrong information saying that her highest ranking is 88 but ideally it should be 99 as she has a gpa of 7!

Any help is much appreciated! Thanks heaps!

This is my experience with the whole application this year.
Griffith has always been open and honest with their application process. Surprisingly one of the very few universities who are this honest and transparent with their process.
I was under the similar situation where I completed my bachelor of medical science from the University with GPA 6.5
Then since it was not enough to get into Griffith, I enrolled and started studying full time another science degree from the same university. I applied and got credit from Med science degree for 16 subjects and all being HDs, so technically I was going to complete my bachelors of science degree in one year, this year (2years worth credit and one fresh year from science degree). Fortunately I scored all HDs in all 8 subjects for science degree.
I applied to Griffith and asked the admission office their, they clearly advised me that Griffith plays fair with all students. Since I have got credit from previous degree, they will not look in to my Grades from it. Instead they will count only those subjects from the science degree.
The reason being, if Griffith were to just look at your transcript regardless of credited subjects, then it will be unfair for those who are just having completing their first year at their first degree, or students fresh from their high school.
Everyone can easily get all HDs from one degree and not get any HDs or just a few HDs and still considered 7 GPA.
So then I requested my uni and requested them to remove all my credited subjects and had only those subjects left on my transcript purely studies this year as a part of science degree.
For me I was not going to be disadvantaged as I completed one year full time studies from science degree and all HDs.
I understand this may sound unfair for some people. But I think this is the fairest of all. I agree how hard it is to get all 8 HDs. But so does it is equally hard to get 99.65 or above ATAR.
I hope this helps.

 

[am_z_hope]

This is my experience with the whole application this year.
Griffith has always been open and honest with their application process. Surprisingly one of the very few universities who are this honest and transparent with their process.
I was under the similar situation where I completed my bachelor of medical science from the University with GPA 6.5
Then since it was not enough to get into Griffith, I enrolled and started studying full time another science degree from the same university. I applied and got credit from Med science degree for 16 subjects and all being HDs, so technically I was going to complete my bachelors of science degree in one year, this year (2years worth credit and one fresh year from science degree). Fortunately I scored all HDs in all 8 subjects for science degree.
I applied to Griffith and asked the admission office their, they clearly advised me that Griffith plays fair with all students. Since I have got credit from previous degree, they will not look in to my Grades from it. Instead they will count only those subjects from the science degree.
The reason being, if Griffith were to just look at your transcript regardless of credited subjects, then it will be unfair for those who are just having completing their first year at their first degree, or students fresh from their high school.
Everyone can easily get all HDs from one degree and not get any HDs or just a few HDs and still considered 7 GPA.
So then I requested my uni and requested them to remove all my credited subjects and had only those subjects left on my transcript purely studies this year as a part of science degree.
For me I was not going to be disadvantaged as I completed one year full time studies from science degree and all HDs.
I understand this may sound unfair for some people. But I think this is the fairest of all. I agree how hard it is to get all 8 HDs. But so does it is equally hard to get 99.65 or above ATAR.
I hope this helps.

Thanks for the reply Nirav. Totally get where u r coming from. However, in her case she didn’t complete 2 years or anything from another degree. She just completed 8 units in total within the 2 degrees and also the units within the 2 degrees are the same core units which are shared within the 2 degrees. Hence why this is a very different situation to what others may have faced. Also, personally I don’t see any of it as unfair because end of the day she did work hard to get 8 HD’s within the year with all her units. The credits are basically for the same units for her course, therefore it makes no difference!
Cheers for the reply anyway! And all the best to you.