Griffith Griffith Medicine: Provisional Entry General Discussion

[A1]

Ok, thank you!
Do you know anything about the other question (ATARs came out today and I got exactly 99.85, is it likely that the lowest rank for entry will change for 2023 entry, or does it tend to stay the same for Griffith Bachelor of Medical Science?)

As I have posted before Griffith Nathan/GC cutoffs typically have been 99.75-99.80. Last year was (hopefully) a one-off due to the Covid-leniency flood of IB45s = 99.95s taking up the places that would have gone to the 99.80s, thus cutoff was 99.85. More likelihood it'll drop back to 99.80 than rise again to 99.90.

(Bear in mind ATAR 99.95 is a set 0.05% of the year cohort, whereas no limit to IB students getting 45 marks for 99.95. The more generous IB is the more 99.95s they produce, it's not capped to percent of IB cohort. If I may use the word it was an "abuse" so shouldn't occur again).

 

[darkbox]

Adding onto what A1 is talking about:

Based on what I'm reading on the QTAC and UAC websites, they seem to have fixed the said issue by making the IB about ranking students just as the ATAR does.

From the website (IB Studies - QTAC) , "The IB Combined Rank process is changing. Changes will be implemented starting with the November 2022 IB graduates who are applying for admission to tertiary courses commencing in 2023. The Australasian Conference of Tertiary Admissions Centres (ACTAC) has been working with the IB Organisation (IBO) to find ways to obtain finer-grained data about the performance of IB students to create a more detailed schedule against which IB students’ selection ranks will be calculated. The new Combined Rank schedule provides more conversion points by using scaled total marks from all subjects to differentiate between IB students on the same IB score"

 

[Boots]

As I have posted before Griffith Nathan/GC cutoffs typically have been 99.75-99.80. Last year was (hopefully) a one-off due to the Covid-leniency flood of IB45s = 99.95s taking up the places that would have gone to the 99.80s, thus cutoff was 99.85. More likelihood it'll drop back to 99.80 than rise again to 99.90.

(Bear in mind ATAR 99.95 is a set 0.05% of the year cohort, whereas no limit to IB students getting 45 marks for 99.95. The more generous IB is the more 99.95s they produce, it's not capped to percent of IB cohort. If I may use the word it was an "abuse" so shouldn't occur again).

Ok, thank you for the response, that's good to hear.

 

[zebrastripes]

Hi, does anyone know if there are lower ATAR cut-offs for rural applicants? And if so, what might they be? Thanks

 

[a53795]

Hey guys, I'm a gap year applicant to Griffith's BMedSci. On my QTAC it says entry requirements 'satisfied', including the minimum ATAR and English pre-req. Does this mean I can expect an offer on Jan 12, since Griffith only has the ATAR cutoff? Thanks

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hey guys, I'm a gap year applicant to Griffith's BMedSci. On my QTAC it says entry requirements 'satisfied', including the minimum ATAR and English pre-req. Does this mean I can expect an offer on Jan 12, since Griffith only has the ATAR cutoff? Thanks

No, it just means you’re eligible and you satisfied the requirements to be considered.

 

[little.cloud]

I'm not really too familiar with Griffith but know they had guaranteed entry at 99.85 last year for provisional entry into med.
ATARs came out today and I got exactly 99.85, is it likely that the lowest rank for entry will change for 2023 entry, or does it tend to stay the same?
Also, if I apply to both the Gold Coast and Nathan campus do my chances of getting in increase (eg, could it be that one campus accepts 99.85 and another 99.90)?
Thanks sm for any help

my sister in the exact same position! she got 99.85.

she’s a bit bummed and thinks she has no chance of getting into griffith!

but I really don’t think it will increase again to 99.90 - that seems a bit excessive.

but then again her ucat was 3120 (95%) but she didn’t get an interview for UQ and this makes her more skeptical about getting into griffith

 

[dachshund]

I was looking at the Griffith webpage and came across the assumed knowledge in Math, Chem, Phys and Bio. I’m not worried about Math and Chem as I did those subjects for HSC, but I’m worried about Phys and Bio because I don’t have nearly any knowledge in those subjects. Particularly cause you have to maintain 5.0GPA and Griffith syllabus is crammed, do u think I will struggle? Should I take a bridging course or something?

 

[little.cloud]

I was looking at the Griffith webpage and came across the assumed knowledge in Math, Chem, Phys and Bio. I’m not worried about Math and Chem as I did those subjects for HSC, but I’m worried about Phys and Bio because I don’t have nearly any knowledge in those subjects. Particularly cause you have to maintain 5.0GPA and Griffith syllabus is crammed, do u think I will struggle? Should I take a bridging course or something?

preface: i just completed a BMedSc at griffith w a GPA of 6.95

Physics ability is not really applicable to the course.

I didn’t do bio at school and to be honest it was hard for me to study for exams because I was not used to “cramming” a lot of information. But my lack of biology knowledge did not really affect me in my opinion, especially as there are great resources on YouTube etc.

Also, the culture in the Nathan cohort was such that people help each other learn if someone is struggling, and I found my peers to be super helpful!

In terms of doing a bridging course, thought you could do it if you really wanted to I guess, I don’t think personally it would have been helpful for me as the content you are tested on is the content you learn in the subjects in the course. So, I don’t know how helpful that would be!

 

[Crow]

I was looking at the Griffith webpage and came across the assumed knowledge in Math, Chem, Phys and Bio. I’m not worried about Math and Chem as I did those subjects for HSC, but I’m worried about Phys and Bio because I don’t have nearly any knowledge in those subjects. Particularly cause you have to maintain 5.0GPA and Griffith syllabus is crammed, do u think I will struggle? Should I take a bridging course or something?

As above - you'll be completely fine without physics or biology background.

The main one students struggle with would be chemistry if they didn't do this in high school.

Everything will be taught from scratch and as long as you attend your classes and apply yourself then you will have no troubles. Enjoy your holidays. Don't worry about spending them studying.

 

[Boots]

my sister in the exact same position! she got 99.85.

she’s a bit bummed and thinks she has no chance of getting into griffith!

but I really don’t think it will increase again to 99.90 - that seems a bit excessive.

but then again her ucat was 3120 (95%) but she didn’t get an interview for UQ and this makes her more skeptical about getting into griffith

thanks for the response!
Given A1 and darkbox's response I think she should be feeling pretty confident, maybe showing her their posts and the facts might reassure her. Unlucky about UQ, she only just missed the cut-off.
Good luck!
Also, how did you find Griffith BMedSc? Did fitting the three years into two make it really difficult (I know you got a GPA of 6.95 but do you think the 5.0 minimum GPA to continue into med would be hard without sacrificing socialising, going out etc)

 

[Crow]

do you think the 5.0 minimum GPA to continue into med would be hard without sacrificing socialising, going out etc

For the vast majority of students with a background of a 99.8+ ATAR a 5.0 is very achievable with relatively minimal efforts and there’s definitely no need to sacrifice external commitments. Some do struggle more with the transition to university but regardless, everyone should be able to maintain a social life during their undergraduate degree.

 

[Boots]

For the vast majority of students with a background of a 99.8+ ATAR a 5.0 is very achievable with relatively minimal efforts and there’s definitely no need to sacrifice external commitments. Some do struggle more with the transition to university but regardless, everyone should be able to maintain a social life during their undergraduate degree.

ok, good to know, thank you!

 

[Nottyjk]

As I have posted before Griffith Nathan/GC cutoffs typically have been 99.75-99.80. Last year was (hopefully) a one-off due to the Covid-leniency flood of IB45s = 99.95s taking up the places that would have gone to the 99.80s, thus cutoff was 99.85. More likelihood it'll drop back to 99.80 than rise again to 99.90.

(Bear in mind ATAR 99.95 is a set 0.05% of the year cohort, whereas no limit to IB students getting 45 marks for 99.95. The more generous IB is the more 99.95s they produce, it's not capped to percent of IB cohort. If I may use the word it was an "abuse" so shouldn't occur again).

Honestly this doesn't seem to be true. Out of the ~40 ppl only 3 ppl on the GC campus got 45 IB.

thanks for the response!
Given A1 and darkbox's response I think she should be feeling pretty confident, maybe showing her their posts and the facts might reassure her. Unlucky about UQ, she only just missed the cut-off.
Good luck!
Also, how did you find Griffith BMedSc? Did fitting the three years into two make it really difficult (I know you got a GPA of 6.95 but do you think the 5.0 minimum GPA to continue into med would be hard without sacrificing socialising, going out etc)

Getting a 5.0 won't be a problem. Studying less than I did in high school + going out most weekends and on a 7.0 (first year though lol). Physics and biology not necessary maybe a bit of chem would help

 

[Coop]

For the vast majority of students with a background of a 99.8+ ATAR a 5.0 is very achievable with relatively minimal efforts and there’s definitely no need to sacrifice external commitments. Some do struggle more with the transition to university but regardless, everyone should be able to maintain a social life during their undergraduate degree.

Maintaining a 5.0 GPA in Medical Science is not a problem, I have never seen any student really have a problem with this cutoff (due to background as Crow said). The problem is more so the opposite - trying to not smash every single exam and get super high grades. You'll be around a lot of high achieving students that expect to continue achieving highly constantly. It's important to maintain and social life, extracurriculars etc., getting a 5.0 and above will not be a problem while trying to do this

 

[Jeremy223]

As I have posted before Griffith Nathan/GC cutoffs typically have been 99.75-99.80. Last year was (hopefully) a one-off due to the Covid-leniency flood of IB45s = 99.95s taking up the places that would have gone to the 99.80s, thus cutoff was 99.85. More likelihood it'll drop back to 99.80 than rise again to 99.90.

(Bear in mind ATAR 99.95 is a set 0.05% of the year cohort, whereas no limit to IB students getting 45 marks for 99.95. The more generous IB is the more 99.95s they produce, it's not capped to percent of IB cohort. If I may use the word it was an "abuse" so shouldn't occur again).

I assume this applies to uni of sunshine coast medicine as well, is that correct?

 

[A1]

I assume this applies to uni of sunshine coast medicine as well, is that correct?

Yes I believe so. The two years before last USC cutoffs were 99.60-99.65 (even with a couple 99.55 top-ups) then last year jumped to 99.80. Hopefully it will drop back.

 

[Desperatebaby]

As I have posted before Griffith Nathan/GC cutoffs typically have been 99.75-99.80. Last year was (hopefully) a one-off due to the Covid-leniency flood of IB45s = 99.95s taking up the places that would have gone to the 99.80s, thus cutoff was 99.85. More likelihood it'll drop back to 99.80 than rise again to 99.90.

(Bear in mind ATAR 99.95 is a set 0.05% of the year cohort, whereas no limit to IB students getting 45 marks for 99.95. The more generous IB is the more 99.95s they produce, it's not capped to percent of IB cohort. If I may use the word it was an "abuse" so shouldn't occur again).

Just to report that MLC a local school in melb here had 12x IB45 last year but yesterday only 3x 45s

 

[A1]

Just to report that MLC a local school in melb here had 12x IB45 last year but yesterday only 3x 45s

With the new move to sub-divide each IB score into 3-4 ATAR grades the 3x IB45s could translate to 1x 99.95 + 1x 99.90 + 1x 99.85, dropping MLC from 12x 99.95s to just one.

(But note this IB sub-division itself won't impact on a Griffith offer since 99.85 is still likely to make the cutoff).

 

[little.cloud]

As I have posted before Griffith Nathan/GC cutoffs typically have been 99.75-99.80. Last year was (hopefully) a one-off due to the Covid-leniency flood of IB45s = 99.95s taking up the places that would have gone to the 99.80s, thus cutoff was 99.85. More likelihood it'll drop back to 99.80 than rise again to 99.90.

(Bear in mind ATAR 99.95 is a set 0.05% of the year cohort, whereas no limit to IB students getting 45 marks for 99.95. The more generous IB is the more 99.95s they produce, it's not capped to percent of IB cohort. If I may use the word it was an "abuse" so shouldn't occur again).

with the IBs coming out again, it seems many people are getting 99.95s and my friend who did IB this year and got a 44.5 (99.75) said that if she appealed she would get a 99.95 - which honestly seems a bit wacky to me!!

and i just saw that there isn’t a cap on the number of people who can get 99.95s which is scary ahahha

but yea my sisters a bit stressed again seeing as many people in IB are doing amazingly again this year - fingers crossed 99.85 is enough again this year!