HSFY 2019

[jaejoong]

99 CHEM
99 PHSI
98 CELS

Not too confident on HUBS after some of those MCQs tho

wow! congrats! well done on your hard work
my chem hasn't come out yet... (I'll be surprised if I get over 70 though )
95 CELS
85 PHSI
90 HUBS

 

[TBar]

wow! congrats! well done on your hard work
my chem hasn't come out yet... (I'll be suprised if i get over 70 though )
95 CELS
85 PHSI

Good on both of you!

 

[Costwarrior]

100 CHEM
100 PHSI
98 CELS

Waiting for HUBS probably did bad and got around 93%, my goal is at least >95%

 

[rustyedges]

Wow some insane results. Good work

Just to remind anyone who is seeing these results that they are very much not typical, and there is a selection bias on people who choose to post.

To get into your desired professional programme you don't need the highest marks, just the marks that put you in the top x%ile.

 

[Cathay]

Yes this is a good time to make the public service announcement - that "results shared on MSO" will NOT be a representative sample of the HSFY population (you'll learn more on that - and selection bias - in POPH192). Those with top scores are more likely to be sharing their results... And yes, as rusty said, you only need to be in that top 170ish (not a precise number but in the 150-200 range), not the top 5 (I'm guessing two of the top 5 have posted in this thread today )

I'm gonna bring out an old exchange from the 2011 thread:

CHEM: 82% HUBS: 89% CELS: 91%, so not too shocking, with the obvious exception of chemistry.

CELS: 97 CHEM: 94 HUBS: 93 ... Waiting on that PHSI to bump the average...

Don't make me slap you, Cathay

+1, it'll be a double slap.

Now process the fact that all three of us got into medicine, and the other two are now doctors*.

Yes, the system is changing this year with UCAT, and yes, the papers and the cohort are subtly different each year, but no, you shouldn't panic just because you didn't get 99-100.

Spoiler

*: The other two are now doctors, but I get to drive trains around and earn a similar pay, until they get into mid-registrar years at least. So I'm happy with that.

 

[janetori123]

So then realistically what kind of percentages should we be getting for med?

 

[Cathay]

So then realistically what kind of percentages should we be getting for med?

To be quite honest, we don't really know this year. This is the first year of UCAT, and the way they do things is different (UCAT is used as a threshold and ranking will be on HSFY marks only - according to the information on the Admissions website). This is a first and so we don't have any historical data we can compare to (without comparing apples to oranges). So the advice is same as always: do your best, and don't give up.

Now obviously you need 70% in all papers to be eligible for medicine, which means if you scored below 70 in one of the four papers this semester, you should make a back-up plan that isn't medicine (one of the other professional programmes, or another degree that interests you - which allows you to either go for graduate entry medicine or pursue something else that interests you.)

I realize this isn't the answer you're looking for - but please understand that it's better to explain why I don't have an answer, rather than making an uneducated random guess. Imagine either of the following scenarios: (both scenarios are hypothetical only!!)
1) ***hypothetical scenario only*** If I said a random number (like 90), and someone that got 93 average in first semester relaxes completely, gets lower marks in second semester, dragging their average down to 90, and then misses out on medicine because the actual cutoff turned out to be 91. ***hypothetical scenario***
2) ***hypothetical scenario only*** If I said a random number (like 90), and someone that got 89 average saw it and gives up, opting for something else, only to hear that their friend who got an 89 average got into medicine because the actual cutoff turned out to be 88. ***hypothetical scenario***

In both of those scenarios my random guess would be doing more harm than good. It's sort of a medical ethics concept on risk vs benefit - in this case the risks posed by my reckless guessing would far outweigh any benefit (peace of mind for some) that would come from it, so I think it would be much better if I didn't make a random guess at it.

Spoiler

Yes, yes, I quit med school almost 4 years ago, but I still live by "first do no harm" and all that

 

[mr_fanstadic]

Yo, can someone please upload the 2019 PHSI 191 paper so I can have a look at it?

 

[tomleegolf]

Yo, can someone please upload the 2019 PHSI 191 paper so I can have a look at it?

Do you mean the actual exam paper? I've uploaded the answers (my answers, not official) in this thread a couple weeks ago

 

[Croissant155]

Hi, does anyone know what kind of percentages we should be getting for Dentistry? Thank you!

 

[toastisgood]

Hi I was wondering how many professional programs you can apply for at once? could you potentially apply for all of them?

 

[Cathay]

Hi I was wondering how many professional programs you can apply for at once? could you potentially apply for all of them?

Assuming things haven't changed since my time, yes you can apply for as many as you want - and potentially all of them.

 

[mr_fanstadic]

Do you mean the actual exam paper? I've uploaded the answers (my answers, not official) in this thread a couple weeks ago

Yes the actual exam paper if possible please

 

[hogooma]

So I just finished my first semester in HSFY so if any newbies want to know in detail how it is like in HSFY or how you should prepare for HSFY ( or if you should consider HSFY at all, just hit me a message and I can answer all The memory is still fresh so the sooner you ask the better

If any of you guys are going to apply to HSFY of the University of Otago and need any advice or have questions relating to HSFY, you guys can message me

I am an international student studying HSFY at Otago 2018. I am also flatting and have a wide range of friends from flatting to staying in the hall so I know quite a bit knowledge of everything to help. I will try my best to help if I can

Hi! I am also an international student and studying health science this year. Did you get into any of the professional courses? I am aiming for medicine but I am not sure if my grade is good enough as I don't think I did very well compared to others who posted here their grades..
I heard that international students are usually less competitive, is this also true?

Anyone else is an international student and studied or studying health science?

 

[Ambersssdeam]

So the most horrible thing to ever happen to a health science is failing all their semester papers, I would think of myself as a hard working student and I’m gutted that those were the results I got. Any advice on how I could still apply through the graduate category for medicine, would that mean that I have to change my course second semester to something else( Also well done to everyone who got really good grades).

 

[Fili]

So the most horrible thing to ever happen to a health science is failing all their semester papers, I would think of myself as a hard working student and I’m gutted that those were the results I got. Any advice on how I could still apply through the graduate category for medicine, would that mean that I have to change my course second semester to something else( Also well done to everyone who got really good grades).

I'm sure you didn't do that bad but I'll take your word for it. You keep the same papers since a lot of BSc or BBiomedSc need the same papers that HSFY has as prerequisites. I highly recommend going booking a consultation with AskOtago or the HSFY Admissions Office since the process is long, and there will be scoring changes for graduate students next year onwards. I recommend just focusing on your papers now then choosing a BSc major later on since you're only 1 semester in and haven't done sem 2 to know full well of your interests for the future.

 

[jaejoong]

Hi! I am also an international student and studying health science this year. Did you get into any of the professional courses? I am aiming for medicine but I am not sure if my grade is good enough as I don't think I did very well compared to others who posted here their grades..
I heard that international students are usually less competitive, is this also true?

I have a friend who is an international student who got into med (did HSFY last year) with a 7.1 GPA and a umat score below a 20 percentile, so yes I would say it is much less competitive...

 

[hogooma]

So the most horrible thing to ever happen to a health science is failing all their semester papers, I would think of myself as a hard working student and I’m gutted that those were the results I got. Any advice on how I could still apply through the graduate category for medicine, would that mean that I have to change my course second semester to something else( Also well done to everyone who got really good grades).

Hi, I am also considering post-grad entry if I don't get into medicine and as far as I know, health science first year students are doing the same papers to those who are doing BSc and BBiomedSc students so normally people would choose to finish the whole year and continue on those degrees for their second and third so you only spend 2 more years. However, if you think those grades are not good enough or have failed any of the papers, I would recommend doing another undergrad degree (3 years minimum) to apply through the post-grad entry to be safe as Otago also take the first-year result into account.

I have a friend who is an international student who got into med (did HSFY last year) with a 7.1 GPA and a umat score below a 20 percentile, so yes I would say it is much less competitive...

Wow.. thank you then if GPA is 7.1 what would be the HSFY average in percentage?

 

[rustyedges]

So the most horrible thing to ever happen to a health science is failing all their semester papers, I would think of myself as a hard working student and I’m gutted that those were the results I got. Any advice on how I could still apply through the graduate category for medicine, would that mean that I have to change my course second semester to something else( Also well done to everyone who got really good grades).

It's always horrible when you don't get the results you were hoping for. To clarify, do you meaning failing as in less than 50%, or under the 70% threshold for medicine? One will affect the papers you're allowed to take in sem 2.

To be applying for graduate entry, you will need to complete an undergraduate degree in the minimum time allowed, pass the HSFY papers at some point, and have a competitive weighted GPA.

Another thing to think about is what went wrong. If you a hard working student, that's great, but this could be a good opportunity to reevaluate your study methods or exam technique, depending on what you think happened.

 

[Fili]

Do note that the difference between an A- to A+ in one 100 level paper is very minimal with regards to Graduate Entry as 100 level papers are weighted much less than 200 and 300 level papers. Note that it's the GPA for your best 7 papers per year as well so one bad paper really doesn't make that much of a difference. Regardless, it's your choice if you want to do a completely different degree rather than continuing on.