iMMO
WSU MBBS V
Supposedly that's why they rank people based on sec 2? No idea TBH. But I wrote a statement of why I wanted UTAS med and attached it as an extra thingo.
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Interview offers & dates 2016-17
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Supposedly that's why they rank people based on sec 2? No idea TBH. But I wrote a statement of why I wanted UTAS med and attached it as an extra thingo.
Yes, for non-standard entry, UTAS consider your (paraphrased) 'experience, maturity, and evidence of ability to complete the course'. They don't, however, explain how they measure/rank/assess that. It might be CV, it might be personal statement, it might be previous Uni level degree completion. It might be none of these things.
The S2 ranking is in lieu of an interview and applies to all applicants (with the possible exception of local school leavers). The maturity component is only considered for non-standard applicants.
I haven't met any school leavers that fulfil both
You can qualify for two offers in the same state but it's quite convoluted as to how to get it. I'll use UNSW and UWS as an example:
1. Candidate puts UNSW and UWS as their first and second preference and scores high enough at both interviews to be offered a place.
2. Candidate then gets UNSW as an offer in first round, accepts it, and then changes their preferences so that UWS is first and UNSW is second.
3. Second round offers come out and candidate gets the choice to keep old offer at UNSW or accept new higher ranked offer at UWS. Hence multiple offers.
For a third round you could do the same and get an offer from the JMP but at any time you cannot have more than two offers in the same state through the same tertiary admissions centre.
It is possible to get four offers in QLD though as you can apply to QLD through UAC as well as through QTAC. You do this by putting preference A and B through QTAC using the above modus operandi and then C and D through UAC using the above modus operandi. Then you'd have two first round and two second round offers from QLD.
1. Candidate puts UNSW and UWS as their first and second preference and scores high enough at both interviews to be offered a place.
2. Candidate then gets UNSW as an offer in first round, accepts it, and then changes their preferences so that UWS is first and UNSW is second.
3. Second round offers come out and candidate gets the choice to keep old offer at UNSW or accept new higher ranked offer at UWS. Hence multiple offers.
For a third round you could do the same and get an offer from the JMP but at any time you cannot have more than two offers in the same state through the same tertiary admissions centre.
It is possible to get four offers in QLD though as you can apply to QLD through UAC as well as through QTAC. You do this by putting preference A and B through QTAC using the above modus operandi and then C and D through UAC using the above modus operandi. Then you'd have two first round and two second round offers from QLD.
I'm guessing it's assumed that, by and large, school leavers have not had the same opportunity to gain relevant experience as non-standard applicants and to expect them to 'compete' on that level is unreasonable.
UTAS clearly delineates its various entry pathways (there are 5 or 6 all up, currently), and there are different criteria for each.
Someone from WA (rural) posted an interview offer yesterday.
Maturity does not require one to be older. There are year 12 students with more maturity than some people in my graduating cohort at UNDS.
In terms of experience, a non-standard getting into medicine will have less medical experience than a standard year 12 applicants by the time they hit age 40 and consequently the standard year 12 will also provide a better return on investment in terms of years serving the community in the medical field.
Additionally, I have noticed that at the commencement of their respective medicine courses, standard year 12 applicants are generally intrinsically more intelligent than those who start later. This is of course expected because the non standard applicant pool is largely comprised of people who DIDN'T GET IN as early as the standards did.
Experience is a good thing to have in medicine and in life. However, for medicine, non-medical experience counts for very little if anything and this further intensifies with advancing levels of seniority. If you want to complain about the non-standard requirement being more stringent than the standard one then you should have just gotten in as a standard applicant when you finished year 12. It's arguably easier for non standard applicants anyway because guess what, your competition is other non standard applicants comprised of people who didn't get into medicine as a standard applicant.
While I definitely agree with a lot of this; just putting a shout-out out there to non-standard applicants who didn't apply as school leavers (for whatever reason) and so haven't actually 'failed' to get in previously! We aren't all failed school leaver applicants (and there's nothing wrong with the applicants who are either, just making that also clear...! Argh, I'ma stop digging here!!).
iMMO
WSU MBBS V
LOL Mana stop slaying me left and right. That was a sarcastic comment, because we don't know how UTAS even looks at those things.
How can I know I am qualifies on my second preference? Do they inform me?
And, if I accept one offer, am I commited to enrol to that?
iMMO
WSU MBBS V
No, you're not committed to enrol. You can accept it, remove it from your preferences, and in the second round you can get another offer if you get selected. You can even enrol in a med degree then un-enrol if you get a second round offer at another uni which you wish to attend. I've even heard of people going interstate and then getting called from a uni back home offering them a spot days before the course starts.
Thank you for the reply.
What happen if it is in same territory?
Eg- if my preferences are
1 UNSW
2 UWS
3 UoN
If I got an offer in UNSW, How can I know whether I am qualified for UWS or UoN? Do they inform me?
Hi, what was your UMAT?
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