Med and Dent - 2018 Entry (Place Offers and Discussion)

[A1]

Hey A1! I thought that with the previosdu legislation change, so long as you were enrolled before the legislation passed, you would still be paying the CSP fee for the duration of your degree?

I'm not aware of a clause that says it would only apply to students starting a new degree. Was there any exclusion from it being applied to current students for the remaining years of their degrees?

 

[tealcanvas]

I'm not aware of a clause that says it would only apply to students starting a new degree. Was there any exclusion from it being applied to current students for the remaining years of their degrees?

“Affected students already in a CSP will retain access to this support while they are enrolled in their

existing course.” This was written in the Higher Education Reform Package. I think the assumption was that basically so long as you were already enrolled before the legislation passed, you still had your CSP place (even though those fees were also going to increase.)
The problem with graduate entry supposedly is that you had to re-enroll, so there was the question of whether you were starting a 'new course' or if it counted as an 'existing course'. I called up Queensland University to ask about this before, but they told me they were also unsure, and had been asking the government too,but since the legislation wasn't going to be passed, they didn't keep enquiring.

 

[KiwiDavo]

“Affected students already in a CSP will retain access to this support while they are enrolled in their

existing course.” This was written in the Higher Education Reform Package. I think the assumption was that basically so long as you were already enrolled before the legislation passed, you still had your CSP place (even though those fees were also going to increase.)
The problem with graduate entry supposedly is that you had to re-enroll, so there was the question of whether you were starting a 'new course' or if it counted as an 'existing course'. I called up Queensland University to ask about this before, but they told me they were also unsure, and had been asking the government too,but since the legislation wasn't going to be passed, they didn't keep enquiring.

In that case, if that quote is retained in any further discussions in 2021 for us NZ folks, then any of us CSP people doing med courses/provisional MD courses starting this year wouldn't be affected I guess (I'd be beyond hyped if that was the case lmao)

 

[tealcanvas]

In that case, if that quote is retained in any further discussions in 2021 for us NZ folks, then any of us CSP people doing med courses/provisional MD courses starting this year wouldn't be affected I guess (I'd be beyond hyped if that was the case lmao)

That's what I'm hoping for!
But again, the thing with provisional entry is that you do have to re-enrol - and re-enrollment might mean you don't necessarily retain your CSP place At least that's what it sounded like UQ was saying to me...

 

[Thranduil007]

Hey guys, to anyone out there waiting, there's still hope. Got 2 late med offers yesterday.
Course Type: Med
Offer Received: Yes
University: Adelaide + Griffith
UMAT: 86%
ATAR or GPA: 99.65
Special Considerations: No
Offer Type: CSP
Other Information: NZ student

 

[Zed]

Hey guys, to anyone out there waiting, there's still hope. Got 2 late med offers yesterday.
Course Type: Med
Offer Received: Yes
University: Adelaide + Griffith
UMAT: 86%
ATAR or GPA: 99.65
Special Considerations: No
Offer Type: CSP
Other Information: NZ student

Which one will you choose Thranduil ?

 

[Thranduil007]

Probably Adelaide, I think. I was told that it gets more govt funding as well as having better employment prospects.

 

[noum]

Probably Adelaide, I think. I was told that it gets more govt funding as well as having better employment prospects.

With Adelaide heard a lot about problem with internship after completing degree esp in coming yrs

 

[A1]

With Adelaide heard a lot about problem with internship after completing degree esp in coming yrs

Adelaide/SA had huge problems the year just now 2017 but coming years won't be as bad since the number of grads from Adelaide+Flinders is dropping significantly.

Adelaide Y6 + Flinders Y4 from > https://www.medicaldeans.org.au/wp-content/uploads/Table-1.pdf
(2016) 288 - (2017) 321 - (2018) 288 - (2019) 258 - (2020) 232.

 

[eh0214]

Hey guys, to anyone out there waiting, there's still hope. Got 2 late med offers yesterday.
Course Type: Med
Offer Received: Yes
University: Adelaide + Griffith
UMAT: 86%
ATAR or GPA: 99.65
Special Considerations: No
Offer Type: CSP
Other Information: NZ student

What campus was it for griffith?

 

[Thranduil007]

What campus was it for griffith?

Gold Coast

 

[sixtythree]

Gold Coast

Are you NZ as well? Are you aware of the situation regarding Commonwealth funding and how that might influence your fee situation if you had to re-enrol (in the case of Griffith)?

 

[Zed]

Adelaide/SA had huge problems the year just now 2017 but coming years won't be as bad since the number of grads from Adelaide+Flinders is dropping significantly.

Adelaide Y6 + Flinders Y4 from > https://www.medicaldeans.org.au/wp-content/uploads/Table-1.pdf
(2016) 288 - (2017) 321 - (2018) 288 - (2019) 258 - (2020) 232.

Hi A1, great link but where is Macquarie University in that list? Is it because they are so new that there is no data for them?

p.s. from this link https://www.mq.edu.au/about/about-t...ealth-sciences/macquarie-md/program-structure
it says they will have 40 domestic places and 20 international

 

[noum]

Anybody had that 15 min interview with uni Adelaide ?
How was that ?

 

[Thranduil007]

Are you NZ as well? Are you aware of the situation regarding Commonwealth funding and how that might influence your fee situation if you had to re-enrol (in the case of Griffith)?

Yup to both :'( I guess it's just a risk that NZers might have to take ...

 

[sixtythree]

Yup to both :'( I guess it's just a risk that NZers might have to take ...

Out of curiosity, how does an NZ student get an ATAR?

 

[Thranduil007]

Out of curiosity, how does an NZ student get an ATAR?

I think you can basically just call up NCEA after your level 3 NCEA results come out and they'll direct you to someone who knows your ATAR.

 

[sixtythree]

I think you can basically just call up NCEA after your level 3 NCEA results come out and they'll direct you to someone who knows your ATAR.

Oh ok that makes sense. Is that what you did?

 

[Thranduil007]

Oh ok that makes sense. Is that what you did?

Yup

 

[A1]

Hi A1, great link but where is Macquarie University in that list? Is it because they are so new that there is no data for them?

The Med Deans issue a set of data for each year > Annual Tables « Medical Deans Australia & New Zealand
to date it's to 2017, the 2018 will come out around September I think.