Otago HSFY chat - archive

[greenglacier]

I doubt that there are 500 people doing a Chem major. I think at the current moment in time there may actually be 2000 people in the course. However, the best number estimate for HSFY would be next semester in the Epidemiology paper.

Given that last year PHSI191 had 1250 students, there would have been around 1200 HSFY students. By second semester HEAL192 had enough dropouts to fit into 2 streams at St. David = 1100 students.

This number of 1200 also appears to be pretty consistent - at the HSFY prelim lecture this year they were apparently told that there were 1200 students this year as well.

CHEM191 is the only first semester level 100 chem paper, so it is taken by anyone interested in chemistry (which would be quite a few), chem majors, and chem minors, along with those in other courses (e.g. food science) that require it.

 

[ChickenPie]

We were told "in excess of 1200" students studying HSFY during our HUBS prelim, apparently an increase of approximately 100 students on 2009. If I recall correctly during a lecture (the telling-off sort regarding stream jumping!) yesterday in HUBS, there are 2026 students enrolled in that paper. I might go through the audio and see if they removed it .

HUBS and CELS are both popular papers among first year students, HUBS especially- no pre-reqs and an interesting paper to fit into just about any degree.

I met someone doing CELS who is a music major, for example, and at my hall there are a few physics majors taking a couple of healthsci papers.

When you look at the HSFY papers, they are applicable to many fields (in being specially created papers usually authored by no single department) and this reflects in the wide range of students taking them.

 

[greenglacier]

Yep, all the HSFY papers (except PHSI191 and HEAL192) are popular with people who aren't HSFY. Lots of HSFY students don't seem to realise this though - hence some of the (false) rumours of there being 2000 students in HSFY.

If they said an increase of 100 students on 2009, then we are looking at around 1300 students. It's unlikely to be any higher than that because then they would no doubt have said "in excess of 1300 students".

So, the final figure is something like 1300 HSFY students and 170 HSFY spots in med (though some of the HSFYers will not be aiming for med in the first place).

 

[SaxGuy]

So, the final figure is something like 1300 HSFY students and 170 HSFY spots in med (though some of the HSFYers will not be aiming for med in the first place).

Although, most of them are - In my prelim, they asked who was trying to get into med and almost everyone put their hand up.
In my hubs lecture today, someone asked if bones could heal after you were 25. Wtf?

 

[skyglow1]

Oh man. If you're gonna ask a question in a healthsci lecture it'd better be a good one .

 

[rainbow_star]

For our first HUBS terms test, is there any sample test that we can look at to know at least the gist of the questions being asked? :huh: Cheers.

 

[SASOL]

Nah but they should be pretty similar to questions in lab exit tests etc. When is the HUBS test?

 

[ChickenPie]

Two weeks from today!

Greenglacier, I presume your figure of 170 includes rural and Maori students? I say this based on this report... From my calculations there were probably about 120 spots for HSFY students who do not fall into these categories.

Also, does anyone know what the approximate dent cut offs were? probably not discussed anywhere near as much as the medicine criteria.... and I still haven't met anyone who has a clue about how they really adjust candidates based on their background (ie rural, Maori/PI)...

 

[greenglacier]

Greenglacier, I presume your figure of 170 includes rural and Maori students? I say this based on this report... From my calculations there were probably about 120 spots for HSFY students who do not fall into these categories.

Sorry, I got things a little muddled up - 170 of the domestic students are HSFY, but in total, 180 students are HSFY.

At our first lecture in med o week they told us that 72% of the class was from HSFY, which across the 250 students is approximately 180 (or 170 of the 234 domestic students). That report says 26% were competitive graduate/other category, so presumably the remaining 2% are repeat students.

There isn't enough data provided to work out the number of HSFY students who did not get in through the rural or Maori/PI categories as the report doesn't say how many of these spots went to HSFY and how many went to graduates. For such a figure to have any value anyway you'd need to know how many non-rural, non-Maori/PI students there are in the current HSFY class (and this is complicated by the fact that it looks like some rural students didn't get in through the special rural category).

So, all we can really say is there are about 1300 HSFYers this year, and about 180 of them will be accepted into med.

 

[McDreamy]

The distribution in 2nd year med this year is like this:

HSFY: 180
Competitive entry: 45~
Alternative entry: 25~
International students (in all categories): 16
250 in total.

Note: there might be several students repeating Med 2 this year.

 

[ChickenPie]

Sorry, I got things a little muddled up - 170 of the domestic students are HSFY, but in total, 180 students are HSFY.

At our first lecture in med o week they told us that 72% of the class was from HSFY, which across the 250 students is approximately 180 (or 170 of the 234 domestic students). That report says 26% were competitive graduate/other category, so presumably the remaining 2% are repeat students.

There isn't enough data provided to work out the number of HSFY students who did not get in through the rural or Maori/PI categories as the report doesn't say how many of these spots went to HSFY and how many went to graduates. For such a figure to have any value anyway you'd need to know how many non-rural, non-Maori/PI students there are in the current HSFY class (and this is complicated by the fact that it looks like some rural students didn't get in through the special rural category).

So, all we can really say is there are about 1300 HSFYers this year, and about 180 of them will be accepted into med.

I realise there isn't enough data, but 21 Maori and 26% rural seems quite high! Naturally there is significant overlap between graduate and within those categories also..

 

[greenglacier]

I realise there isn't enough data, but 21 Maori and 26% rural seems quite high! Naturally there is significant overlap between graduate and within those categories also..

Also consider that the number of special rural spots is less than 26% of the total spots, so some of the rural students got in through general HSFY admission.

 

[rainbow_star]

27th March

 

[I'mOnABoat]

27th March

I might be there. Just for fun.

 

[ChickenPie]

[offtopic]On a Saturday? Interesting fun there![/offtopic]

 

[OUSchweiz]

Hey I was just wondering if there were rules in relation to making recordings during lectures. Do they put recordings of lecture up on blackboard or are you allowed to take in a tape recording or do you just need to catch everything you can in your notes.

 

[I'mOnABoat]

Hey I was just wondering if there were rules in relation to making recordings during lectures. Do they put recordings of lecture up on blackboard or are you allowed to take in a tape recording or do you just need to catch everything you can in your notes.

I think that for most of the papers they record the lectures for you as podcasts.

 

[skyglow1]

For the ones that they don't upload the podcasts, you are allowed to record the lectures yourself.

 

[greenglacier]

For the ones that they don't upload the podcasts, you are allowed to record the lectures yourself.

...though technically you have to ask the lecturer first

 

[ChickenPie]

The CHEM, CELS, and HUBS departments are usually quite good with releasing recordings, but the PHSI ones are sporadic.