Otago HSFY chat - archive

[frootloop]

Are we able to access past papers for term tests? I've found the ones for the final exam but are there online copies of the past term tests?

For HUBS? No. For everything else, they should make the previous year's terms test available to you on blackboard or some such.

 

[Cathay]

CHEM and PHSI will make their 2011 terms tests available on Blackboard sooner or later.

 

[informedconsent]

That's why I skip them.

At the start of HSFY last year I decided I would never skip a single lecture, even though I would always fall asleep in them. In the second semester I skipped one JUST ONE lecture and then it was game over - I started bunking them quite frequently. (Grades took a massive tumble too :cry

I felt like just being there, even if I was sleeping, seemed to make going over lecture slides a little bit easier - at least I had a vague idea of what the lectures were about when I went over the slides.

Perhaps this lecturer is really bad, but I would hope that you won't make this a habit...

 

[greenglacier]

We do have a good question bank thread to help you prepare for HUBS tests/exams though!

https://www.medstudentsonline.com.au/f115/hsfy-question-bank-thread-23686/

Feel free to contribute new questions as well.

 

[alice]

You're missing out on a lot of detail that isn't on the slides - which they will test on the terms test.

I completely agree - the HUBS lectures are pretty vital for getting a good idea of what's actually required and the lecturer doesn't just read the lecture slides - but adds a lot of extra info and explanations too (which cant be said about the Physics lecturer..)

Maybe I'm biased though because I actually think she's a pretty good lecturer - she explains everything clearly, gives us relevant examples and manages to make a fairly tedious topic bearable. I'm interested to know how you think a HUBS lecturer could improve their lecturing style given the amount of content they're expected to cover in one hour.. :S

 

[frootloop]

That's why I skip them. Well, just her. She is actually so painful, I walked up and left during her second one and I'm not coming back, seriously. It's all on Blackboard anyways. I hope the other lecturers aren't all as boring as she is.

You're not doing HSFY for the entertainment value, are you? This isn't high school, the lecturers aren't there to 'teach' you, they're there to, well, lecture (ie: Throw content at you). There are ~1300 of you, and she's got a lot of content to deliver in 50 minutes, you can't expect her to tailor her lecturing style to individuals. Also remember that most of your lecturers are researchers, and hate giving lectures probably more than you hate going to them. And if you don't go to lectures, then you'll be missing quite a lot of examinable content...
Personally, I'd advise sucking it up and going to the lectures, no matter how much you dislike a lecturer's style, because that lecturer is going to write at least half of your terms test questions, and quite a reasonable share of your final exam, so what she has to say is rather important.

 

[juna]

Hey guys, this is such a stupid question- why is the nucleus not a part of the cytoplasm? I was taught in high school that the nucleus is part of the cytoplasm. But apparently not....

Also, what is a cannaliculis?

 

[alice]

Hey guys, this is such a stupid question- why is the nucleus not a part of the cytoplasm? I was taught in high school that the nucleus is part of the cytoplasm. But apparently not....

Also, what is a cannaliculis?

The nucleus is SURROUNDED BY the cytoplasm. And the canaliculi connect the lacunae (which hold the osteocytes) to the central canal so that nutrients can be transferred to and from the osteocyte. CANALiculi = canal

 

[Voldemort]

The nucleus is SURROUNDED BY the cytoplasm. And the canaliculi connect the lacunae (which hold the osteocytes) to the central canal so that nutrients can be transferred to and from the osteocyte. CANALiculi = canal

Someone's done their study! Good to see! XD

By the way guys, a whole section of the short answer questions in the HUBS192 final exam last year was based on something the lecturer had said, and wasn't on slides. In fact she mentioned it almost in passing...
Hopefully that'll scare you into going to lectures...

 

[Sustel]

did anyone find out information about co-transport (i think we were specifically asked to, even though it was going to be covered later) and perixosomes, choloroplasts, vacuoles, lysosomes (termed 'homework)?

 

[Voldemort]

did anyone find out information about co-transport (i think we were specifically asked to, even though it was going to be covered later) and perixosomes, choloroplasts, vacuoles, lysosomes (termed 'homework)?

I suggest you guys do that, apparently they love testing things they make you find out yourself

 

[informedconsent]

By the way guys, a whole section of the short answer questions in the HUBS192 final exam last year was based on something the lecturer had said, and wasn't on slides. In fact she mentioned it almost in passing...

, can you remind me of what this was please? It was probably why I got an A- for that paper .

 

[miss_universe]

Campbell Reece and Meyers will easily give you a basic explanation. If not, any other bio/microbio/immunology texts. Unfortunately, those things you listed arnt really that related to each other, so you may need to look over a variety of places till you get all your explanations.

 

[Cathay]

did anyone find out information about co-transport (i think we were specifically asked to, even though it was going to be covered later) and perixosomes, choloroplasts, vacuoles, lysosomes (termed 'homework)?

That was pretty much "for homework I'd like you to go read a couple of pages of the textbook"...

 

[SeeKay]

The nucleus is SURROUNDED BY the cytoplasm.

On the lecture slide, the definition of cytoplasm is cytosol + organelles (excluding nucleus). No idea why it's not part of the cytoplasm, to be honest.

And on the topic of CELS, has anyone noticed that lecture 5 and lecture 6 have contradicting statements about the ribosome? (lecture 5 says ribosome is a cytoplasmic organelle, whereas in lecture 6 it tells us ribosome isn't an organelle because it's not membrane-bound...:/)

 

[hermafish]

And on the topic of CELS, has anyone noticed that lecture 5 and lecture 6 have contradicting statements about the ribosome? (lecture 5 says ribosome is a cytoplasmic organelle, whereas in lecture 6 it tells us ribosome isn't an organelle because it's not membrane-bound...:/)

Yeah I saw that... I don't know which definition is best - I think one lecturer mentioned for the purposes of the course (or the lecture, i don't remember which) they'd say that all organelles had membranes, but then the definition of cytoplasm as cytosol + organelles (minus nucleus) wouldn't work... So I don't know which is right either.

 

[frootloop]

And on the topic of CELS, has anyone noticed that lecture 5 and lecture 6 have contradicting statements about the ribosome? (lecture 5 says ribosome is a cytoplasmic organelle, whereas in lecture 6 it tells us ribosome isn't an organelle because it's not membrane-bound...:/)

There are membrane-bound ribosomes, and 'free-floating' ones, if I remember rightly.
But (again, if memory serves), ribosomes aren't classified as 'organelles', but rather 'macro-molecular assemblies', or something like that.

 

[miss_universe]

There are membrane-bound ribosomes, and 'free-floating' ones, if I remember rightly.
But (again, if memory serves), ribosomes aren't classified as 'organelles', but rather 'macro-molecular assemblies', or something like that.

Yep you are right. So Rough Endoplasmic Reticulum has the ribosomes that are attached (and Smooth ER doesnt have just for your info). And the ribosomes that float around are just called free ribosomes.

 

[Ruth]

Some tests, like HUBS and CELS GLMs, only allow limited attempts. That's from Blackboard, not from CELS. A bit like when they said in introductory lectures that "some of you will not get into med" - it doesn't necessarily mean you.

Unless you see a bold "You are allowed 3 attempts at this test", it's generally unlimited.

PS: I thought Phil Bishop would've said in the intro lecture "you can go sit it, get 9/10, then go out, have a couple of drinks, come back, sit it again, and get 2/10, but your highest one will count" like he did last year.

Thanks! And yeah now that you've mentioned it, I think he did. That was two weeks ago though, I'm having trouble remembering what happened on Friday, or even yesterday D:

 

[Nimbus2000]

for god's sakes, the HUBS department. Firstly, they don't release the lecture slides early, even when the other, less content dense or equally content dense subjects do, and then, they set like 50 gazillion pages for pre-reads! Not that I do them anyway, but STILL. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.

/rant

question: they don't really expect us to know all that specific detail for the facial bones/features of the humerus blah blah right? like the zygomatic (or whatever its called) bone in the facial bones, and the maxillary* (excuse my spelling people) or all that tubercules stuff, etc etc right? Coz if they do, man am i stuffed. I'm not too worried about CELS and their pre-readings, but given the history that veteran HSFYers have shared about the HUBS department... I don't know what to think :S