UCAT Results Discussion 2019

[ChollySa]

Applying for: Medicine
Application Type: Non-standard
Predicted ATAR/GPA: 6.0 GPA, however, my ATAR was not even in the 80's.
UCAT Percentile Rank: 75%
VR: 540
DM: 550
QR: 600
AR: 620
Total: 2310
SJ: 641
Current State: Hopelessness in NSW
Applying to: All - Whoever Can take me
Rural Applicant: yes
GWS Applicant: no
Indigenous Applicant: no
Other: Lived in RA3 and RA2 my whole life.
I got an interview with JCU last year. Will try again with them. Not feelin' the confidence with these results tbh.

 

[Crow]

Applying for: Medicine
Application Type: Non-standard
Predicted ATAR/GPA: 6.0 GPA, however, my ATAR was not even in the 80's.
UCAT Percentile Rank: 75%
VR: 540
DM: 550
QR: 600
AR: 620
Total: 2310
SJ: 641
Current State: Hopelessness in NSW
Applying to: All - Whoever Can take me
Rural Applicant: yes
GWS Applicant: no
Indigenous Applicant: no
Other: Lived in RA3 and RA2 my whole life.
I got an interview with JCU last year. Will try again with them. Not feelin' the confidence with these results tbh.

As a rural applicant you should definitely get an interview with JMP, and having interviewed there previously you should be in a good position again for JCU. If you have a completed degree, you’re also eligible for Curtin so I would apply there too if that’s the case.

Good luck

 

[ChollySa]

As a rural applicant you should definitely get an interview with JMP, and having interviewed there previously you should be in a good position again for JCU. If you have a completed degree, you’re also eligible for Curtin so I would apply there too if that’s the case.

Good luck

Thank You SOOOO much. This has reassured me immensely. Thank you, wonderful and friendly Crow.

 

[garmonbozia]

UCAT Percentile Rank: 75%
VR: 540
DM: 550
QR: 600
AR: 620
Total: 2310
SJ: 641

Where did you get the figure of 75th percentile? According to Test Statistics | UCAT Consortium a score of 2310 is in the 27th percentile.

 

[Crow]

Where did you get the figure of 75th percentile? According to Test Statistics | UCAT Consortium a score of 2310 is in the 27th percentile.

Ahhh, apologies ChollySa, I only looked at your percentile with my comments above. With a 27th %ile I’d say you’ll be ruled out for JMP and JCU will be your best bet (no idea how Curtin would treat a rural non-standard applicant, either).

If those don’t work out and you wish to try again, I’d recommend pursuing graduate entry via GAMSAT while retaking the UCAT too. Your GPA puts you in a good position for graduate entry as a rural applicant.

 

[Deleted member 37402]

Ahhh, apologies ChollySa, I only looked at your percentile with my comments above. With a 27th %ile I’d say you’ll be ruled out for JMP and JCU will be your best bet (no idea how Curtin would treat a rural non-standard applicant, either).

If those don’t work out and you wish to try again, I’d recommend pursuing graduate entry via GAMSAT while retaking the UCAT too. Your GPA puts you in a good position for graduate entry as a rural applicant.

Would you have given the same advice for any applicant who scored around the 40th %ile under the same circumstances ? Thank you for any opinions you might have on this.

 

[Crow]

Would you have given the same advice for any applicant who scored around the 40th %ile under the same circumstances ? Thank you for any opinions you might have on this.

If it's a non-standard applicant, then yes. If it's a rural school-leaver then I'd want to know the ATAR (in case it's high enough for Griffith/Flinders) and if the ATAR was above 99 I'd also think applying to UQ would be worth it as a long-shot because we had a 28 %ile rural applicant gain a BMP in the last year or two.

 

[Deleted member 37402]

If it's a non-standard applicant, then yes. If it's a rural school-leaver then I'd want to know the ATAR (in case it's high enough for Griffith/Flinders) and if the ATAR was above 99 I'd also think applying to UQ would be worth it as a long-shot because we had a 28 %ile rural applicant gain a BMP in the last year or two.

It would be a rural school leaver with a modest ATAR in the nineties (modest because 99 is a 'pipe-dream') Would like to stay in NSW? By the way is BMP an acronym for Bonded Medical Places? Thank you again if you have any comments.

 

[Crow]

It would be a rural school leaver with a modest ATAR in the nineties (modest because 99 is a 'pipe-dream') Would like to stay in NSW? By the way is BMP an acronym for Bonded Medical Places? Thank you again if you have any comments.

Unfortunately in that case they’ll have to commence tertiary study and try again as a non-standard or graduate entry applicant in the future.

Yes, BMP = Bonded Medical Place.

 

[Deleted member 37402]

Unfortunately in that case they’ll have to commence tertiary study and try again as a non-standard or graduate entry applicant in the future.

Yes, BMP = Bonded Medical Place.

Thank you for answering my query.

 

[ChollySa]

Ahhh, apologies ChollySa, I only looked at your percentile with my comments above. With a 27th %ile I’d say you’ll be ruled out for JMP and JCU will be your best bet (no idea how Curtin would treat a rural non-standard applicant, either).

If those don’t work out and you wish to try again, I’d recommend pursuing graduate entry via GAMSAT while retaking the UCAT too. Your GPA puts you in a good position for graduate entry as a rural applicant.

Hahaha. Sorry for my mistake there. Well, That's fine too. Thanks for the advice. I'll keep doing my best.

 

[garmonbozia]

Mod Note: Answered.

Applying for: medicine
Application Type: school leaver
Predicted ATAR/GPA: predicted 99.9
UCAT Percentile Rank: 99
VR: 770
DM: 760
QR: 900
AR: 800
Total: 3230
SJ: 708
Current State: NSW
Applying to: UNSW, WSU, JMP, Monash, UTas, UQ, Griffith/USC, JCU
Rural Applicant: no
GWS Applicant: no
Indigenous Applicant: no
Specific Question: chances of interview and offer from UNSW? Chances of interview offer from Monash?

thanks!

 

[A1]

Applying for: medicine
Application Type: school leaver
Predicted ATAR/GPA: predicted 99.9
UCAT Percentile Rank: 99
VR: 770
DM: 760
QR: 900
AR: 800
Total: 3230
SJ: 708
Current State: NSW
Applying to: UNSW, WSU, JMP, Monash, UTas, UQ, Griffith/USC, JCU
Rural Applicant: no
GWS Applicant: no
Indigenous Applicant: no
Specific Question: chances of interview and offer from UNSW? Chances of interview offer from Monash?

thanks!

Ruse kid huh? (j/k)

You will get more place offers / interviews than you know what to do with. Previous years I'd have rated your UNSW offer chance at 90% but only 80% now since UNSW seems to reject the (%?) lowest interviews regardless of their ATAR+UCAT combo.

Btw try to break the current MSO record of 5 med + 2 dent offers.

 

[Catelyn R.]

How would I need to do in the WSU interview considering that I'm rural with a ucat of 95%ile (and considering that i make the atar cut-off)?

 

[A1]

How would I need to do in the WSU interview considering that I'm rural with a ucat of 95%ile (and considering that i make the atar cut-off)?

WSU allocates ~15 places to rural. Assuming they invite around 2-3 times this number to interview you still need to be in the top half / third of the interviews for an offer. ATAR doesn't count into it, UCAT counts 25% so your 95%ile does give some advantage but not possible to quantify.

 

[TKAO]

Does the 80% mean that being in the top 80% of applications will mean one can enter UNSW?

Also, since every 0.05 ATAR has about 45 students in it, and every percentile in UCAT has about 180 students in it, would this mean that based upon UNSW's rank system, hypothetically one UCAT percentile is worth at least 0.2 ATAR points (And almost certainly more, since not every high-achieving student chooses med)?

Not exactly. You forget that there are other states with their own ATAR systems. Therefore, while you (I assume) are in NSW and they have 45 people in each bracket, WA has closer to 17, and other states probably have similar proportions based on population size.

 

[A1]

Does the 80% mean that being in the top 80% of applications will mean one can enter UNSW?

First, don't be confused the top 80% with 80th%ile UCAT-style. In the top 80% here means their interview score is 20th%ile or above among the cohort's interviews.

Then in terms of successful applications for UNSW one needs to be in the top third ATAR+UCAT+Interview. Since this applicant's 99.9+99%ile is like in the top 1-2% already they only need a modest interview score to add up to a top-third total.

Also, since every 0.05 ATAR has about 45 students in it, and every percentile in UCAT has about 180 students in it, would this mean that based upon UNSW's rank system, hypothetically one UCAT percentile is worth at least 0.2 ATAR points (And almost certainly more, since not every high-achieving student chooses med)?

Australia-wide every 0.05 ATAR = ~150 students, but not all high ATARs want to pursue med whereas most high UCATs will. There isn't enough data available for a calculation, I only go with empirical data from UNSW that a 99.9 would need ~80%ile vs a 98.0 would need near top UCAT to be equivalent. So very roughly 1%ile = 0.1 ATAR.

 

[Cal]

First, don't be confused the top 80% with 80th%ile UCAT-style. In the top 80% here means their interview score is 20th%ile or above among the cohort's interviews.

Then in terms of successful applications for UNSW one needs to be in the top third ATAR+UCAT+Interview. Since this applicant's 99.9+99%ile is like in the top 1-2% already they only need a modest interview score to add up to a top-third total.



Australia-wide every 0.05 ATAR = ~150 students, but not all high ATARs want to pursue med whereas most high UCATs will. There isn't enough data available for a calculation, I only go with empirical data from UNSW that a 99.9 would need ~80%ile vs a 98.0 would need near top UCAT to be equivalent. So very roughly 1%ile = 0.1 ATAR.

Do you reckon it would even be worth flying down for an interview if I got one with an atar equivalent of approximately give or take 0.05 99.5 and ucat of 90th (2850)?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Do you reckon it would even be worth flying down for an interview if I got one with an atar equivalent of approximately give or take 0.05 99.5 and ucat of 90th (2850)?

As you’re an interstate applicant (I assume, based on your “flying down” comment), UNSW will likely helpfully provide you with a ‘chance estimate’ when they lock your interview in, so you’ll be able to decide then whether it’s worth it based on up-to-date, 2020-entry info. For example, I was an interstate applicant for 2018 entry and was given ~5% chance when offered my interview, as I already had 3 offers (for 5 year degrees) locked in by then, it was easy to decide not to go.

 

[Procrastination]

I am a rural student with solid UCAT score of 2550 (roughly 60th percentile). Predicting a 99 ATAR (without SEAS)
Do you guys think I have any chances of getting into undergrad medicine?