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UCAT Results Discussion 2020

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I don’t know how lateral entry is determined. Given you’re all in the same course, they may do away with ATAR, but I have no idea, sorry. I assume someone at Uni could answer that for you, though.

ETA: and I’ve never heard of gateway entry, sorry!

It’s not used for any other non-standard entry unis. You should get interviews at JMP and JPM, too. Good luck.

Apologies I used the wrong terminology. By gateway entry, I meant the standard entry scheme for local school-leavers and non-standard applicants. Apologies for the confusion! Would an 87 with a 92nd %ile UCAT suffice for UNSW interview in the standard entry? PS Thanks for the quick reply!

Also is this abbreviation for the Joint Program of CSU and WSU? Thanks :)
 
Would an 87 with a 92nd %ile UCAT suffice for UNSW interview in the standard entry?
We actually have pretty limited data on the lateral transfer pathway, but from what I know if it, it's insanely competitive - would lead me to believe that 87 and 92nd wouldn't be enough as the equivalent isn't enough as a regular applicant and only 20 or so interviews are offered, which is less than 5% of the cohort if my memory serves me correctly? Obviously worth an application though - and please let us know of the outcome!
Also is this abbreviation for the Joint Program of CSU and WSU? Thanks :)
Correct!
 
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Applying for:
Medicine and Dentistry
Application Type: School leaver
Predicted ATAR/GPA: low 99s
UCAT Percentile Rank: 88 :(
VR: 600
M: 800
QR: 760
AR: 730
Total: 2890
SJ: 650
Possible WSU Formula Total (58%VR + 12%DM + 12%QR + 18%AR):
Current State: QLD
Applying to:
all universities
Rural Applicant: no
GWS Applicant: no
Indigenous Applicant: no
Other: no
Specific Question: will my chances at an interview or offer change if the quality of my atar 99 was say 99.5 or 6, instead of around 99.2 (for any unis both med and dent) specifically UQ though.
 
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Applying for: Medicine and Dentistry
Application Type: School leaver
Predicted ATAR/GPA: low 99s
UCAT Percentile Rank: 88 :(
VR: 600
M: 800
QR: 760
AR: 730
Total: 2890
SJ: 650
Possible WSU Formula Total (58%VR + 12%DM + 12%QR + 18%AR):
Current State: QLD
Applying to:
all universities
Rural Applicant: no
GWS Applicant: no
Indigenous Applicant: no
Other: no
Specific Question: will my chances at an interview or offer change if the quality of my atar 99 was say 99.5 or 6, instead of around 99.2 (for any unis both med and dent) specifically UQ though.
For dent:
You might be able to scrape a UQ dent spot in the second round, but don't hold out, a JCU spot with Goot written is achievable, UADEL interview is borderline but possible, a 99.5 would get you a usyd interview. Good luck!! 😌😎
 
Applying for: Medicine and Dentistry
Application Type: School leaver
Predicted ATAR/GPA: low 99s
UCAT Percentile Rank: 88 :(
VR: 600
M: 800
QR: 760
AR: 730
Total: 2890
SJ: 650
Possible WSU Formula Total (58%VR + 12%DM + 12%QR + 18%AR):
Current State: QLD
Applying to:
all universities
Rural Applicant: no
GWS Applicant: no
Indigenous Applicant: no
Other: no
Specific Question: will my chances at an interview or offer change if the quality of my atar 99 was say 99.5 or 6, instead of around 99.2 (for any unis both med and dent) specifically UQ though.
For med: Unfortunately with that UCAT score you're most likely ruled out of all UCAT unis EXCEPT potentially UQ which as it happens appears to be your top pick! UQ will select interviewees based on UCAT score alone so increasing your ATAR will only help with place offer selection, not with actually getting an interview. Other applications that would be worth it just in case: Adelaide, JMP, UWA and Curtin - but honestly all of these seem unlikely. I'd definitely apply to JCU as well if you weren't planning on it already as it's probably your best chance.

Good luck :)
 
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Applying for:
Medicine & Dentistry (Dentistry is my 1st preference)
Application Type: Non-Standard
Predicted ATAR/GPA: 93.4/6.33
UCAT Percentile Rank: 93
VR: 600
DM: 680
QR: 830
AR: 870
Total: 2980
SJ: 662
Possible WSU Formula Total (58%VR + 12%DM + 12%QR + 18%AR): 685.8
Current State: WA
Applying to:
JMP, WSU, UNSW, Curtin for medicine. UAdel, UQ, Griffth, CSU for dentistry
Rural Applicant: No
GWS Applicant:
No
Indigenous Applicant: No
Other: None
Specific Question:

1. Interview chances at Griffth and CSU for dentistry and Curtin for medicine
2. Will being an interstate and non-rural applicant affect my chances for these universities compared to local non-rural applicants?
3. Should I remove my WSU and UNSW preference as it's near impossible for me to receive an interview due to my ATAR/low VR score and put another course instead?
Thank you
 
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Applying for: Medicine & Dentistry (Dentistry is my 1st preference)
Application Type: Non-Standard
Predicted ATAR/GPA: 93.4/6.33
UCAT Percentile Rank: 93
VR: 600
DM: 680
QR: 830
AR: 870
Total: 2980
SJ: 662
Possible WSU Formula Total (58%VR + 12%DM + 12%QR + 18%AR): 685.8
Current State: WA
Applying to:
JMP, WSU, UNSW, Curtin for medicine. UAdel, UQ, Griffth, CSU for dentistry
Rural Applicant: No
GWS Applicant:
No
Indigenous Applicant: No
Other: None
Specific Question:

1. Interview chances at Griffth and CSU for dentistry and Curtin for medicine
2. Will being an interstate and non-rural applicant affect my chances for these universities compared to local non-rural applicants?
3. Should I remove my WSU and UNSW preference as it's near impossible for me to receive an interview due to my ATAR/low VR score and put another course instead?
Thank you
For med, you should get an interview at JMP and, while we have very limited data available for non-standard Curtin applicants, I think it’s likely you’ll get an interview there. Being interstate won’t affect your chances at the unis you’re applying to. While WSU and UNSW are looking pretty much impossible, unless there’s another course that you really want to get into, I wouldn’t really bother removing them. WSU could scrap their VR weighting method (obviously unlikely, but who knows) so you wouldn’t want to remove it altogether from your preferences only for that to happen. Good luck :)
 
Applying for: Medicine & Dentistry (Dentistry is my 1st preference)
Application Type: Non-Standard
Predicted ATAR/GPA: 93.4/6.33
UCAT Percentile Rank: 93
VR: 600
DM: 680
QR: 830
AR: 870
Total: 2980
SJ: 662
Possible WSU Formula Total (58%VR + 12%DM + 12%QR + 18%AR): 685.8
Current State: WA
Applying to:
JMP, WSU, UNSW, Curtin for medicine. UAdel, UQ, Griffth, CSU for dentistry
Rural Applicant: No
GWS Applicant:
No
Indigenous Applicant: No
Other: None
Specific Question:

1. Interview chances at Griffth and CSU for dentistry and Curtin for medicine
2. Will being an interstate and non-rural applicant affect my chances for these universities compared to local non-rural applicants?
3. Should I remove my WSU and UNSW preference as it's near impossible for me to receive an interview due to my ATAR/low VR score and put another course instead?
Thank you
Are you currently studying at Curtin as a current student or have you graduated already? Because if you have not yet graduated, only Curtin students are able to transfer in, relying on their CWA that needs to be above 80 to even be considered.
 
Are you currently studying at Curtin as a current student or have you graduated already? Because if you have not yet graduated, only Curtin students are able to transfer in, relying on their CWA that needs to be above 80 to even be considered.
Hi TKAO, I was not a Curtin student and I graduated at the end of last year with a completed bachelor degree from another uni with a 6.33 GPA
 
Hi TKAO, I was not a Curtin student and I graduated at the end of last year with a completed bachelor degree from another uni with a 6.33 GPA
Alright in that case I'll see if I can enquire from my curtin friends to see if they are able to give you any more information about their non-standard admissions as they take in ~8 in every year according to their AMC accreditation documents. Very hard to predict anything as the pool is tiny to begin with.

EDIT: My friend couldn't give me anything concrete unfortunately :( You're flying into this one blind but do tell us how it goes because any data points we can get are good :)
 
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Applying for:
Medicine & Dentistry (Dentistry is my 1st preference)
Application Type: Non-Standard
Predicted ATAR/GPA: 93.4/6.33
UCAT Percentile Rank: 93
VR: 600
DM: 680
QR: 830
AR: 870
Total: 2980
SJ: 662
Possible WSU Formula Total (58%VR + 12%DM + 12%QR + 18%AR): 685.8
Current State: WA
Applying to:
JMP, WSU, UNSW, Curtin for medicine. UAdel, UQ, Griffth, CSU for dentistry
Rural Applicant: No
GWS Applicant:
No
Indigenous Applicant: No
Other: None
Specific Question:

1. Interview chances at Griffth and CSU for dentistry and Curtin for medicine
2. Will being an interstate and non-rural applicant affect my chances for these universities compared to local non-rural applicants?
3. Should I remove my WSU and UNSW preference as it's near impossible for me to receive an interview due to my ATAR/low VR score and put another course instead?
Thank you
For dentistry, you have a great ucat score, so you should get UADEL and CSU interviews, your ucat is enough for UQ but you need at least a 6.5 GPA so unfortunately unless there is any way you can get a higher GPA, it is a no go, that is extremely unlucky. You could always enquire to uq about grades/your uni and see if anything can be done/calculations are different between unis.
. Griffith unfortunately unless you can get up to a 6.875 you are probably out of contention. Worth a JCU application. I really hope you get a dent spot, dent as first pref is rare these days 😌😎🌵
 
EDIT: My friend couldn't give me anything concrete unfortunately :( You're flying into this one blind but do tell us how it goes because any data points we can get are good :)
I think we've had precisely 2 reports of non-standard offers to Curtin since its inception, one was a course-switcher with significant rural bonuses so doesn't help us, and the second was a GPA 7 / UCAT of 82nd. I'm not sure whether Curtin uses ranks/Z-scores/some other method when combining the GPA (well, the Curtin equivalent of the GPA, from memory they call it the assessment rank or something) with UCAT, so I don't know how to meaningfully determine how a 6.33/93rd compares to 7/82nd.
 
For dentistry, you have a great ucat score, so you should get UADEL and CSU interviews, your ucat is enough for UQ but you need at least a 6.5 GPA so unfortunately unless there is any way you can get a higher GPA, it is a no go, that is extremely unlucky. You could always enquire to uq about grades/your uni and see if anything can be done/calculations are different between unis.
. Griffith unfortunately unless you can get up to a 6.875 you are probably out of contention. Worth a JCU application. I really hope you get a dent spot, dent as first pref is rare these days 😌😎🌵
It's a big shame for UQ as I didn't know about their selection rank 'hurdle' until I was too late to apply for 2nd semester study to attempt to boost that few extra GPA mark...Nonetheless, thank you for the reply! fingers crossed for UAdel and CSU dent 😇
 
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I think we've had precisely 2 reports of non-standard offers to Curtin since its inception, one was a course-switcher with significant rural bonuses so doesn't help us, and the second was a GPA 7 / UCAT of 82nd. I'm not sure whether Curtin uses ranks/Z-scores/some other method when combining the GPA (well, the Curtin equivalent of the GPA, from memory they call it the assessment rank or something) with UCAT, so I don't know how to meaningfully determine how a 6.33/93rd compares to 7/82nd.
Thanks for trying! Will definitely keep you all updated on my Curtin application
 
I think we've had precisely 2 reports of non-standard offers to Curtin since its inception, one was a course-switcher with significant rural bonuses so doesn't help us, and the second was a GPA 7 / UCAT of 82nd. I'm not sure whether Curtin uses ranks/Z-scores/some other method when combining the GPA (well, the Curtin equivalent of the GPA, from memory they call it the assessment rank or something) with UCAT, so I don't know how to meaningfully determine how a 6.33/93rd compares to 7/82nd.
Well I think if we can get even a small sampling of data points, we can know whether one falls in and one doesn't or vice versa. Unfortunately you are absolutely right, there simply isn't enough data. And on top of that their GPA conversions vs. their CWA conversion for example is just a mess in itself. Let's hope you get in flying_pig so that we have a person on the inside to report back some data hahaha
 
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Applying for: Medicine
Application Type: Non-Standard (Less than 1FTE, though)
ATAR: 99.15 (2019 NSW HSC)
UCAT Percentile Rank: %91
VR: 670
DM: 770
QR: 720
AR: 790
Total: 2950
SJ: 662
Possible WSU Formula Total (58%VR + 12%DM + 12%QR + 18%AR): 685.8
Current State:
QLD
Applying to: All non-standard eligible medical schools
Rural Applicant: No
GWS Applicant: No
Indigenous Applicant: No
Other: None

Last year, JMP (and to some extent WSU and UNSW) both had interview cut-offs somewhere around %90. While I did score about %90, I'm not much higher. Considering that there was a larger number of people sitting the UCAT this year, I'm a bit worried the cut-off percentile-wise might actually be higher this year. thoughts?
 
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Applying for: Medicine
Application Type: Non-Standard (Less than 1FTE, though)
ATAR: 99.15 (2019 NSW HSC)
UCAT Percentile Rank: %91
VR: 670
DM: 770
QR: 720
AR: 790
Total: 2950
SJ: 662
Possible WSU Formula Total (58%VR + 12%DM + 12%QR + 18%AR): 685.8
Current State:
QLD
Applying to: All non-standard eligible medical schools
Rural Applicant: No
GWS Applicant: No
Indigenous Applicant: No
Other: None

Last year, JMP (and to some extent WSU and UNSW) both had interview cut-offs somewhere around %90. While I did score about %90, I'm not much higher. Considering that there was a larger number of people sitting the UCAT this year, I'm a bit worried the cut-off percentile-wise might actually be higher this year. thoughts?
If you are non standard, what is your current GPA? I'm not entirely sure how UNSW deal with less than one FTE so hopefully someone else can help with that, but with your ATAR/UCAT combo, it seems WSU is out of the question, but JMP is still in. JCU is good if you get a good application in.
 
asdf1234 - they will only look at your ATAR because you have less than 0.75 FTE tertiary study - which will unfortunately mean UNSW is off the cards. JMP will be your best hope but it’s touch and go this year and I expect the cutoff to increase a bit because they have an internal grad entry quota starting this year which will take up a lot of the interview spots that used to be available. JCU is unfortunately off the table because you only have 0.5FTE of tertiary study and their GPA—>ATAR conversion system will rule you out from being competitive. Next year may be a better bet for you. Best of luck anyways :)
 
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