[Undergrad] UMAT 2017 Results Discussion

[Mana]

Overall UMAT Score: 180
Section One: 70
Section Two: 60
Section Three: 50
Overall Percentile Rank: 91
Estimated ATAR/GPA: school won't give it to us, but I'm estimating ~98
Preferred University: UQ, Adelaide, CSU, La Trobe
Course Type: Dentistry
Application type: school leaver
State: NSW
Rural: no
ATSI: no
GWS: no
Other Bonuses: 2 bonus points for UQ entry rank (4u maths)

Question/s:

I heard last year's UMAT cut-off for Adelaide was 93 but the year before that was 87? Is it possible the requirement would go back down?

Also what is my likelihood for UQ/CSU/La Trobe?

Given my section 1 mark I've applied for JMP med as a backup. How likely am I to get in and is it possible to transfer from med to dent?

Thanks

Adelaide's Dentistry program has had some serious changes in the cutoffs required because the dental school has now been moved/migrated and the number of dental students that it can now teach is a fair bit less (therefore cutoffs have gone up). I wouldn't expect that they go down again as there hasn't been any substantial re-increase in the size of the new dental school.

That said, I would say your scores are pretty damn close to the scores I would expect for an interview. If you miss out, it'll be close.

I believe UQ dentistry requires OP 1 which is a 99 ATAR, but the 180 UMAT would definitely satisfy that requirement if you got that 99.

You would almost certainly have an interview at CSU for dentistry. LaTrobe doesn't use the UMAT though so resultingly the required ATAR for that would be in the high 99.7's or so.


You'll definitely get a JMP medicine interview but the likelihood of entry is purely based on your performance in the interview and the PQA (so you have pretty much the same chance as anyone else at the interview).

Re: transferring from med to dent: this is no different from transferring from any other course to dentistry. Essentially you will need to be getting a very high GPA in medicine to maintain the marks required to get entry into dentistry as a non-standard (and believe me, this isn't easy at all). If you have zero interest in doing medicine, I would seriously stay away from it as a pathway to doing dentistry.

 

[eggup]

Overall UMAT Score: 174
Section One: 55
Section Two: 49
Section Three: 70
Overall Percentile Rank: 86
Estimated ATAR/GPA: >= 99
Preferred University: UNSW, WSU or anywhere (chances look slim)
Course Type: medicine
Application type: school leaver
State: NSW
Rural: no
ATSI: no
GWS: no
Other Bonuses: no

 

[sammy04]

Probably not, Sammy. Make sure you do a JCU application though, there's no UMAT there so might be your saving grace. Get someone to proof read your written JCU application as everything will be riding on it!

(and thank you!!)

yess JCU ! thats ittt !!! butt iff not, I am not sure if i can even do it anymore or not ?!!

 

[Todd Baker]

Overall UMAT Score: 177
Section One: 63
Section Two: 44
Section Three: 70
Overall Percentile Rank: 88
Estimated ATAR/GPA: 99
Preferred University: UQ
Course Type: Dentistry
Application type: non-standard
State: QLD
Rural: no
ATSI: no
GWS: no
Other Bonuses: no

Question/s:
Does UQ Dentistry do the 50/50/50? So are my chances for UQ Dentistry good?

 

[matchalatte]

First post after months of lurking!

Overall UMAT Score: 205
Section One: 70
Section Two: 62
Section Three: 73
Overall Percentile Rank: 99
Estimated ATAR/GPA: 99+ (at this stage I'm not too sure)
Preferred University: UNSW
Course Type: Medicine
Application type: School leaver
State: NSW
Rural: (yes/no)
ATSI: (yes/no)
GWS: (yes/no)
Other Bonuses: (yes/no) EAS

Question/s: To be honest, I still can't believe it! I'm applying to UNSW, WSU, JMP, Monash, UQ and even USyd + UMelb even though I don't think I will get the ATAR for it. What are my chances for interviews and is there any other school I should consider?

Thanks

 

[sakira]

Yes for dentistry in quite a few places (CSU and Adelaide at least).
The JMP should offer you an interview if the S1 cutoffs don't go up this year (you're right on the cutoff here) and it's also possible that Adelaide will offer you an interview as well.

Edit: Oops, yes, as LMG! has stated the S3 is too low for an interview at the JMP so no offer there unfortunately. Adelaide however may offer you an interview for medicine if you haven't done any university.

Thanks for the reply! Unfortunately I've already started a course elsewhere so I'm excluded from Adelaide med. When I finish this year my GPA should be around 6.5. Do you think somewhere like UTAS or UWS might be worth applying to for med or should I stick with dentistry?

 

[B2]

First post after months of lurking!

Overall UMAT Score: 205
Section One: 70
Section Two: 62
Section Three: 73
Overall Percentile Rank: 99
Estimated ATAR/GPA: 99+ (at this stage I'm not too sure)
Preferred University: UNSW
Course Type: Medicine
Application type: School leaver
State: NSW
Rural: (yes/no)
ATSI: (yes/no)
GWS: (yes/no)
Other Bonuses: (yes/no) EAS

Question/s: To be honest, I still can't believe it! I'm applying to UNSW, WSU, JMP, Monash, UQ and even USyd + UMelb even though I don't think I will get the ATAR for it. What are my chances for interviews and is there any other school I should consider?

Thanks

Well done and welcome to medschool (unless your ATAR takes a huge downwards plunge )

 

[umatisascam]

You're rural - so absolutely apply wherever there is a rural entry program. You might want to seek some guidance as to which consider your application to be competitive from the faculties themselves as rural cutoffs can change a lot between years but I actually think your UMAT/GPA combination would at least warrant a look from UNSW, WSU, and Curtin.

If you were an urban applicant I would say that you wouldn't get a look anywhere. However, as a rural one, I'd certainly be poking my head into all the admissions offices (by phone or email of course) for some reassurance as to how competitive you actually are.

Would it still be worth contacting UoN about the JMP or can I forget about that as an option?

 

[Mana]

Overall UMAT Score: 174
Section One: 55
Section Two: 49
Section Three: 70
Overall Percentile Rank: 86
Estimated ATAR/GPA: >= 99
Preferred University: UNSW, WSU or anywhere (chances look slim)
Course Type: medicine
Application type: school leaver
State: NSW
Rural: no
ATSI: no
GWS: no
Other Bonuses: no

Your chances at interview highly depend on how far above 99 your ATAR actually is. If you were to get around 99.8 there are not only a whole lot of provisional entry schemes who will accept you (UWA/Flinders/Griffith).

At slightly lower 99's (99.5+) UNSW, Monash, and Adelaide will also likely give you an interview.

Of course JCU will also look favourably on an ATAR above 99 as well provided you have a good application.

 

[Mana]

Overall UMAT Score: 177
Section One: 63
Section Two: 44
Section Three: 70
Overall Percentile Rank: 88
Estimated ATAR/GPA: 99
Preferred University: UQ
Course Type: Dentistry
Application type: non-standard
State: QLD
Rural: no
ATSI: no
GWS: no
Other Bonuses: no

Question/s:
Does UQ Dentistry do the 50/50/50? So are my chances for UQ Dentistry good?

Fairly certain UQ has never had the 50/50/50 rule. I'd say your chances look pretty good indeed.

 

[Mana]

First post after months of lurking!

Overall UMAT Score: 205
Section One: 70
Section Two: 62
Section Three: 73
Overall Percentile Rank: 99
Estimated ATAR/GPA: 99+ (at this stage I'm not too sure)
Preferred University: UNSW
Course Type: Medicine
Application type: School leaver
State: NSW
Rural: (yes/no)
ATSI: (yes/no)
GWS: (yes/no)
Other Bonuses: (yes/no) EAS

Question/s: To be honest, I still can't believe it! I'm applying to UNSW, WSU, JMP, Monash, UQ and even USyd + UMelb even though I don't think I will get the ATAR for it. What are my chances for interviews and is there any other school I should consider?

Thanks

This is an auto-entry for UQ provisional as it is already. Your chances of entry at the other universities is dependent on those universities' weighting on the interview, but you are well placed for the universities that use UMAT and ATAR in the final weighting (Monash/UNSW/Adelaide).

As B2 said, welcome to medicine!

 

[Mana]

Would it still be worth contacting UoN about the JMP or can I forget about that as an option?

Definitely can't hurt, the worst they could say is no. If and when you get a response, if you could post for us to clarify that the 50/50/50 rule does or does not apply to rural applicants, that would help us in future!

 

[PBL]

Overall UMAT Score: 146
Section One: 46
Section Two: 46
Section Three: 54
Overall Percentile Rank: 43
Estimated ATAR/GPA: estimate 99.6
Preferred University: any
Course Type: Med
Application type: standard
State: QLD
Rural: no
ATSI: no
GWS: no
Other Bonuses: no

Question/s:
Do I have any chances of getting into any med schools?

 

[Mana]

Thanks for the reply! Unfortunately I've already started a course elsewhere so I'm excluded from Adelaide med. When I finish this year my GPA should be around 6.5. Do you think somewhere like UTAS or UWS might be worth applying to for med or should I stick with dentistry?

That depends highly on whether you think the investment is worth changing courses that many years in and how much more you want to do medicine than dentistry, heh.

If you wanted to apply to medicine as a non-standard I would definitely say the ones that you should look at are UTas, and WSU (of course at this point we know you aren't eligible for the JMP.)

 

[Mana]

Overall UMAT Score: 176
Section One: 64
Section Two: 49
Section Three: 62
Overall Percentile Rank: 88
Estimated ATAR/GPA: 98.0
Preferred University: any
Course Type: Medicine
Application type: school leaver
State: ACT
Rural: no
ATSI: no
GWS: no
Other Bonuses: no

Question/s: Any chances for any medicine courses? Disappointed with the 49 in section 2

Adelaide will interview you with those scores unless the cutoff goes up a couple of points.

 

[ehtl]

Overall UMAT Score: 177
Section One: 70
Section Two: 41
Section Three: 66
Overall Percentile Rank: 88
Estimated ATAR/GPA: 99.5
Preferred University:
Course Type: Medicine and Dentistry
Application type: school leaver
Rural: no
Other Bonuses: no

Question/s: is there a chance for an interview for dentistry at UQ? also, chances for an interview for medicine at UNSW?

 

[Mana]

Overall UMAT Score: 146
Section One: 46
Section Two: 46
Section Three: 54
Overall Percentile Rank: 43
Estimated ATAR/GPA: estimate 99.6
Preferred University: any
Course Type: Med
Application type: standard
State: QLD
Rural: no
ATSI: no
GWS: no
Other Bonuses: no

Question/s:
Do I have any chances of getting into any med schools?

You have a chance of getting into JCU medical school, but that's about it with those scores.

 

[umatisascam]

Definitely can't hurt, the worst they could say is no. If and when you get a response, if you could post for us to clarify that the 50/50/50 rule does or does not apply to rural applicants, that would help us in future!

Thanks for the replies. I'll contact them.

 

[Mana]

Overall UMAT Score: 177
Section One: 70
Section Two: 41
Section Three: 66
Overall Percentile Rank: 88
Estimated ATAR/GPA: 99.5
Preferred University:
Course Type: Medicine and Dentistry
Application type: school leaver
Rural: no
Other Bonuses: no

Question/s: is there a chance for an interview for dentistry at UQ? also, chances for an interview for medicine at UNSW?

UQ doesn't interview for either medicine or dentistry (it's just a cutoff ATAR of 99/OP1 and then ranked by UMAT only). I would say with that score you definitely miss out on UQ medicine but you're a in with a reasonably good chance for UQ dentistry.

You'll probably also qualify for a UNSW medicine interview provided you maintain that ATAR.

 

[PBL]

You have a chance of getting into JCU medical school, but that's about it with those scores.

thanks, do you know last year's cutoff for griffith med?