[Undergrad] UMAT 2017 Results Discussion

[A1]

I meant a minimum projected ATAR of 97 (>97) so hopefully it shouldn't be too low for Rural acceptance.

UQ gives 2 bonus Rank points to rural applicants, ATAR 97+ will bring you to the Rank 99 required. If <97 you need another 2 bonus points from Maths C or LOTE. Your UMAT practically guarantees a UQ rural place.

Except for Monash due to the 50 rule, your scores are super competitive for the other unis.

 

[qwerty1623]

Overall UMAT Score: 182
Section One: 68
Section Two: 48
Section Three: 66
Overall Percentile Rank: 92
Estimated ATAR/GPA: 99.4-99.7
Preferred University: UNSW, UWS
Course Type: Medicine
Application type: school leaver
State: NSW
Rural: no
ATSI: no
GWS: no
Other Bonuses: no

Hi, just a few quick questions.
How are my chances of getting an interview for UNSW? And will i have to blitz the interview for an offer?
Also my poor section two score closes the doors to a lot of universities. If i'm going interstate, where can i apply with the most success (excluding JCU).
Cheers

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Overall UMAT Score: 164
Section One: 52
Section Two: 62
Section Three: 50
Overall Percentile Rank: 74
Estimated ATAR/GPA: predicted 99
Preferred University: UQ, UNSW, USYD, MONASH, GRIFFITHS
Course Type: Medicine
Application type: School Leaver
State: NSW
Rural: YES
ATSI: No
GWS: No
Other Bonuses: Medical condition

Question: Do I have a chance for any of the listed universities with my UMAT score? I know they generally look for 180 however I was hoping I can apply through a rural access scheme?

I'm not sure whether the UQ rural scheme gives you more than just rank bonuses (ie. also provides a UMAT bonus). Your ATAR will be fine for UQ, I'm just not 100% sure on the UMAT front.

You'll likely get Monash and UNSW interviews. Griffiths requires 99.8ish+ for non-rural, and USyd, 99.95. Again, I'm not sure how low down the ATAR will go for rurals, but you've probably placed yourself in a pretty good position.

ETA: I've just looked through the offers only thread from last year. There's not much data there, unfortunately, and the lowest rural UMAT I can find that was successful for UQ was 80th%ile.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Overall UMAT Score: 182
Section One: 68
Section Two: 48
Section Three: 66
Overall Percentile Rank: 92
Estimated ATAR/GPA: 99.4-99.7
Preferred University: UNSW, UWS
Course Type: Medicine
Application type: school leaver
State: NSW
Rural: no
ATSI: no
GWS: no
Other Bonuses: no

Hi, just a few quick questions.
How are my chances of getting an interview for UNSW? And will i have to blitz the interview for an offer?
Also my poor section two score closes the doors to a lot of universities. If i'm going interstate, where can i apply with the most success (excluding JCU).
Cheers

You should be right for a UNSW interview. For interstate, you'd be in the running for a bonded place at UQ. You could also try UWA and UAdel.

Your S2 48 will rule you out for JMP, UTAS, Curtin, and Monash. And your S1+S2 score won't be enough for UWS.

 

[qwerty1623]

You should be right for a UNSW interview. For interstate, you'd be in the running for a bonded place at UQ. You could also try UWA and UAdel.

Your S2 48 will rule you out for JMP, UTAS, Curtin, and Monash. And your S1+S2 score won't be enough for UWS.

Thanks for the quick reply.
If i get a UNSW interview, how are my chances of getting an offer? Will i need to place in the very top for interview?

 

[A1]

I'm not sure whether the UQ rural scheme gives you more than just rank bonuses (ie. also provides a UMAT bonus). Your ATAR will be fine for UQ, I'm just not 100% sure on the UMAT front.

Once the Rank 99 is met UMAT for UQ rural can be spectacularly low. I remember in one year it was sub 50%ile, recent years around mid50-60ish.

EtA: Pathways and entry requirements
2016: 145 Overall score - 2017: 156.52

 

[Siddy]

Overall UMAT Score: 164
Section One: 52
Section Two: 62
Section Three: 50
Overall Percentile Rank: 74
Estimated ATAR/GPA: predicted 99
Preferred University: UQ, UNSW, USYD, MONASH, GRIFFITHS
Course Type: Medicine
Application type: School Leaver
State: NSW
Rural: YES
ATSI: No
GWS: No
Other Bonuses:

Question: Do I have a chance for any of the listed universities with my UMAT score? I know they generally look for 180 however I was hoping I can apply through a rural access scheme?

My rural friend got a UMAT of 155 and ATAR of 99.0 and got into UNSW. If you get that 99 I'd say you'd likely get into UNSW with a half decent interview since your UMAT is ok but ATAR is on the top end of rural students.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Once the Rank 99 is met UMAT for UQ rural can be spectacularly low. I remember in one year it was sub 50%ile, recent years around mid-50-60ish.

Good to know, because the lowest UMAT in the offers only thread last year (rural UQ) was 80th%ile.

 

[BuzzM8]

Does UTAS employ 50/50/50 rule? And does this apply to rural applicants? Just wondering if I should bother applying there with 46 in Section 2.

 

[Mana]

Does UTAS employ 50/50/50 rule? And does this apply to rural applicants? Just wondering if I should bother applying there with 46 in Section 2.

While it is published as an "official" cutoff on the website, there are Tasmanian school leavers who have received offers to UTas medicine with scores under 50 in one of the sections and also with under 95 as an ATAR, simply due to the fact that the Tasmanian year 12 cohort is very small.

Unfortunately, I have no record of any rural non-Tasmanian student scores under 50 in any section.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Does UTAS employ 50/50/50 rule? And does this apply to rural applicants? Just wondering if I should bother applying there with 46 in Section 2.

Can confirm offers were made for 2017 to rural interstate students with section scores below 50 (including to at least one rural interstate student with TWO section scores below 50). Definitely worth an application. The one definite, as a rural applicant, is you need an actual ATAR of 95.0 to have any chance of a confirmed offer.

ETA: For others reading this: the Dean of Med confirmed the 50/60/50 rule for non-standard and non-rural applicants.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

I just created a full summary of all successful offers across all universities that were reported to MSO for 2017 entry. I've posted it to its own thread because it's long and not totally relevant to this thread:

Med Place Offers 2017 - Collated Data by LMG

 

[katiebrown]

Overall UMAT Score: 184
Section One: 59
Section Two: 60
Section Three: 64
Overall Percentile Rank: 93
Estimated ATAR/GPA: 99.25 (2016)
Preferred University: Monash/UNSW/UWA/Curtin
Course Type: Medicine
Application type: gap year
State: WA
Rural: No
ATSI: No
GWS: No
Other Bonuses: No

 

[A1]

Thanks for the quick reply.
If i get a UNSW interview, how are my chances of getting an offer? Will i need to place in the very top for interview?

My estimate method gives your 99.5/92%ile about 60% chance aka your interview score is better than 40th %ile.

The rule-of-thumb formula I use for UNSW is
99.0 + 90%ile = 10% chance
99.0 + 95%ile = 50%
99.5 + 90%ile = 50%
99.9 + 85%ile = 50%
99.9 + 99%ile = 90%

It's only a +/- 10% approximation but entertaining enough to try for yourself everyone. Interpolate if your scores are in between these numbers.

 

[A1]

Overall UMAT Score: 184
Section One: 59
Section Two: 60
Section Three: 64
Overall Percentile Rank: 93
Estimated ATAR/GPA: 99.25 (2016)
Preferred University: Monash/UNSW/UWA/Curtin
Course Type: Medicine
Application type: gap year
State: WA
Rural: No
ATSI: No
GWS: No
Other Bonuses: No

Quite sure you will get UNSW+UWA+Curtin interviews. Monash not so sure because you're interstate and last year one did not get an invite with 99.8 & 89%ile (he got 3-4 other place offers though yet not good enough to try out with Monash).

For UNSW I'd rate you at 50% chance i.e. a cohort-average interview score or better.

 

[katiebrown]

Quite sure you will get UNSW+UWA+Curtin interviews. Monash not so sure because you're interstate and last year one did not get an invite with 99.8 & 89%ile (he got 3-4 other place offers though yet not good enough to try out with Monash).

For UNSW I'd rate you at 50% chance i.e. a cohort-average interview score or better.

Thanks for that A1! What are my chances at other Uni's for med?

 

[A1]

Thanks for that A1! What are my chances at other Uni's for med?

You are a little below borderline for JMP UTAS, not close enough for Griffith Flinders WSU, ineligible for UQ Syd/Melb.
Should get Adel interview but they interview 800 for ~120 places I can't guess a chance percentage.

 

[A1]

Overall UMAT Score: 201
Section One: 73
Section Two: 62
Section Three: 66
Overall Percentile Rank: 99
Estimated ATAR/GPA: 99.2-99.5
Preferred University: UNSW, Monash
Course Type: Medicine
Application type: school leaver
State: WA
Rural: no
ATSI: no
GWS: no
Other Bonuses: EAS (financial hardships) for UNSW, SEAS (financial hardships) for Monash

What's the change of getting into these two universities? Thanks.

Normally around 70-80% chance for UNSW/Monash, EAS may improve it to 80-90%.

Since you are interstate to both beware of this which happened last year: UNSW interviews interstate applicants on a single day (obviously giving you no other choice). Monash was going to do same on the *same day*. Mana on behalf of MSO alerted Monash, they relented and allowed to choose day-1 or day-2 (day-2 was originally meant for non-Med interviews). Even so doing UNSW on day-1 and Monash on day-2 will require a challenging travel plan. You can try asking either uni to give you a 1st round interview instead.

 

[stevie tamvakeras]

Overall UMAT Score: 174
S1: 58
S2: 55
S3: 61
Percentile Rank: 86
Estimated ATAR: 98.5+
Preferred University: Any
Course Type: medicine
Application type: high school leaver
State: NSW
Rural: No
ATSI: No
GWS: No
Other Bonuses: No

Hi I was wondering if theres any universities worth applying to? And what kind of ATAR requirements are for Adelaide and Flinders?? Thanks heaps for your help

 

[A1]

It seems that Monash and UNSW again have Med interviews on the same day 23 Jan. So I am wondering if Mana will alert Monash again on our behalf. If so it would be wonderful. Thanks a lot.

Important Dates - domestic applicants

Yes Monash interstate will be 23-24 Jan, can you give the link to UNSW 23 Jan?

I know of two occasions UNSW gave 1st round interviews to interstate applicants after they requested.