[Undergrad] UMAT 2017 Results Discussion

[Riche]

Overall UMAT Score: 162
Section One: 49
Section Two: 49
Section Three: 64
Overall Percentile Rank: 70
Estimated ATAR/GPA: ATAR 94 (2016)
Preferred University: UNSW, WSU, or any interstate university
Course Type: Medicine
Application type: gap year
State: NSW
Rural: Yes (RA2)
ATSI:
GWS:
Other Bonuses:

Question/s: What are my chances for an interview

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Overall UMAT Score: 162
Section One: 49
Section Two: 49
Section Three: 64
Overall Percentile Rank: 70
Estimated ATAR/GPA: ATAR 94 (2016)
Preferred University: UNSW, WSU, or any interstate university
Course Type: Medicine
Application type: gap year
State: NSW
Rural: Yes (RA2)
ATSI:
GWS:
Other Bonuses:

Question/s: What are my chances for an interview

Unfortunately, your ATAR/UMAT combination (despite your rural status) is not quite enough for any undergrad medicine courses in Aus that I am aware of. If you wish to pursue a medical degree, your best option is to complete an undergraduate degree and apply via the GAMSAT route, or via the non-standard route at the universities that have this while still an undergraduate student.

 

[Riche]

Thank you for your reply,

 

[A1]

Overall UMAT Score: 162
Section One: 49
Section Two: 49
Section Three: 64
Overall Percentile Rank: 70
Estimated ATAR/GPA: ATAR 94 (2016)
Preferred University: UNSW, WSU, or any interstate university
Course Type: Medicine
Application type: gap year
State: NSW
Rural: Yes (RA2)
ATSI:
GWS:
Other Bonuses:

Question/s: What are my chances for an interview

I'm not too familiar with rural entrance scores but 94/70th might have chances for interview with UNSW, Adelaide... (where the 50/50 rule doesn't apply) and JCU. Your best chance is with CDU though, one got a place last year with 92.3/32%ile.

 

[Riche]

Thank you for your reply, hope for the best.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Thank you for your reply, hope for the best.

Ah, yes, I always forget about CDU. Definitely worth an application All the best.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

I'm not too familiar with rural entrance scores but 94/70th might have chances for interview with UNSW, Adelaide... (where the 50/50 rule doesn't apply) and JCU. Your best chance is with CDU though, one got a place last year with 92.3/32%ile.

Unfortunately, I'm fairly certain not all RA2 rural candidates are considered rural via the measures that UNSW uses (including me!). Riche, have you looked at the UNSW method for determining rurality? Do you know if you are considered as such for them?

 

[Riche]

Unfortunately, I'm fairly certain not all RA2 rural candidates are considered rural via the measures that UNSW uses (including me!). Riche, have you looked at the UNSW method for determining rurality? Do you know if you are considered as such for them?

As I am aware, UNSW will consider RA2 ,.....,RA5, under rural. But for RA2 they provide 3 points and for RA5 they provide 7 points (i.e. ranges from 3 to 7 marks). Then depend on how long you lived in the area (say, for example, if you did all your primary and secondary schooling in the RA2 area (it implies nearly 12 years), they may give you an average mark between 3 and 7 such as 5. So, it will help.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

As I am aware, UNSW will consider RA2 ,.....,RA5, under rural. But for RA2 they provide 3 points and for RA5 they provide 7 points (i.e. ranges from 3 to 7 marks). Then depend on how long you lived in the area (say, for example, if you did all your primary and secondary schooling in the RA2 area (it implies nearly 12 years), they may give you an average mark between 3 and 7 such as 5. So, it will help.

I just know that I'm considered RA2 and therefore rural at JMP, UWS, and UTAS, but NOT at UNSW or Curtin. UNSW uses RRMA 3 - 7 to classify rural applicants as, well, rural! Rural Student Entry Scheme | Rural Clinical School

ETA: To clarify, given your use of 3 and 7 above and realising it might be confusing to read my reply that quotes the same numbers: UNSW does not use RA rankings to determine rural eligibility (as many Universities do), they use RRMA, which is a slightly different, older system. The 3 - 7 part of what I quoted is the rural and remote region classifications and nothing to do with points awarded to students.

ETA2: Pop your postcode into this website and it'll tell you DoctorConnect - Locator

ETA3: My postcode, for example, is RA 2, but RRMA 1, so I am not eligible to apply as a rural student for UNSW. You may be fine, but I just wanted to highlight that UNSW is not quite as straightforward as other Universities.

 

[Riche]

Thanks for your detailed reply, I may be confusing. As I checked, I am in RA2 but it shows also that RRMA 3. So, I would be eligible for UNSW rural. Do you have any knowledge how they give points for the "rurality". Do they consider RRMA 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 as all equal. Thanks.

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Thanks for your detailed reply, I may be confusing. As I checked, I am in RA2 but it shows also that RRMA 3. So, I would be eligible for UNSW rural. Do you have any knowledge how they give points for the "rurality". Do they consider RRMA 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 as all equal. Thanks.

As far as I know (and I could well be incorrect, particularly for the non non-standard universities as I'm less familiar with them), JCU is the only university that gets more 'forgiving' (ATAR/GPA-wise, because obviously they don't use UMAT at all) the more 'rural' you are. I think, for all other unis, if you qualify as rural, then you're considered equally under the rural pathway, regardless of how rural you are in comparison to other rural students.

ETA: nira is possibly someone who can clarify this one way or the other

 

[JakeP1999]

Sorry for the late reply, I only just found this site.

Overall UMAT Score: 178
Section One: 54
Section Two: 67
Section Three: 57
Overall Percentile Rank: 89
Estimated ATAR/GPA: 97-99+
Preferred University: anywhere in Adelaide, maybe interstate idk
Course Type: Medicine
Application type: school leaver
State: sa
Rural: no
ATSI: no
GWS: no
Other Bonuses: no

Question/s: do I have a chance anywhere in S.A? I live north of Adelaide so UoA is preferable but Flinders would be ok as well. Also, what about interstate, any chances there with good section 2? thanks

 

[A1]

Overall UMAT Score: 178
Section One: 54
Section Two: 67
Section Three: 57
Overall Percentile Rank: 89
Estimated ATAR/GPA: 97-99+
Preferred University: anywhere in Adelaide, maybe interstate idk
Course Type: Medicine
Application type: school leaver
State: sa
Rural: no
ATSI: no
GWS: no
Other Bonuses: no

Question/s: do I have a chance anywhere in S.A? I live north of Adelaide so UoA is preferable but Flinders would be ok as well. Also, what about interstate, any chances there with good section 2? thanks

Without UES bonus little chance for Flinders unless you get 99.8+. An Adelaide interview is likely but you need to push ATAR way above 97.0 to be post-interview competitive.

Interstate-wise if 99+ there's a faint chance for UQ bonded and you should get interviews with UNSW & UWA, Curtin maybe 97+, Monash & Griffith 99.8+. See the Criteria table in the Med Entrance subforum.

 

[jdkrstn]

Hi, I was wondering about the UQ provisional medicine program- I got 96th percentile (189) and have an estimated ATAR of 99.6. I read on the UQ website that cutoff is 186 UMAT/ 99+ ATAR. Does this guarantee (provided I get that ATAR) that I will get an offer to go to UQ? Surely there's more people who fulfill these requirements than places offered, so I'm just confused how offers are going to be made. Thank you so much!

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hi, I was wondering about the UQ provisional medicine program- I got 96th percentile (189) and have an estimated ATAR of 99.6. I read on the UQ website that cutoff is 186 UMAT/ 99+ ATAR. Does this guarantee (provided I get that ATAR) that I will get an offer to go to UQ? Surely there's more people who fulfill these requirements than places offered, so I'm just confused how offers are going to be made. Thank you so much!

History tells us that your results basically guarantee you a provisional Med CSP at UQ. Things would have to work quite differently at UQ admissions this year for you to miss out (which is obviously possible, but also unlikely). BMPs tend to go down to about 181 (UMAT aggregate).

There are definitely more people who fill these requirements than places on offer. A lot of them will accept offers to other universities (provisional Med isn't appealing to all, and some are fortunate enough to have options where this is concerned), some will decide on other degrees/life paths, etc.

 

[Potofazherbaizan]

History tells us that your results basically guarantee you a provisional Med CSP at UQ. Things would have to work quite differently at UQ admissions this year for you to miss out (which is obviously possible, but also unlikely). BMPs tend to go down to about 181 (UMAT aggregate).

There are definitely more people who fill these requirements than places on offer. A lot of them will accept offers to other universities (provisional Med isn't appealing to all, and some are fortunate enough to have options where this is concerned), some will decide on other degrees/life paths, etc.

Hi,
Can you please clarify what 'provisional' means regarding UQ. And how is UQ provisional different from Melbourne and USYD?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hi,
Can you please clarify what 'provisional' means regarding UQ. And how is UQ provisional different from Melbourne and USYD?

Provisional just means you don't go straight into Med, you do a different undergraduate degree first (I believe it can be anything, but that would be worth checking) and then, assuming you finish that with the required GPA (credit average?), you're admitted into postgraduate Med at UQ without having to sit GAMSAT etc.

A number of universities offer this (Griffith, UWA, USyd, UMelb, Flinders, UQ). The difference between USyd and UMelb, when compared to UQ, is generally competitiveness for getting an offer (largely due to perceived prestige, location, places available, etc). USyd will require an ATAR of 99.95. I believe UMelb is 99.90. UMelb also require candidates sit an interview at the end of their third year before being able to progress on, which the other universities (to my knowledge) do not require.

ETA: the benefit of the UMelb scenario is that it's a scholarship program so there is some $$ involved.

 

[jdkrstn]

History tells us that your results basically guarantee you a provisional Med CSP at UQ. Things would have to work quite differently at UQ admissions this year for you to miss out (which is obviously possible, but also unlikely). BMPs tend to go down to about 181 (UMAT aggregate).

There are definitely more people who fill these requirements than places on offer. A lot of them will accept offers to other universities (provisional Med isn't appealing to all, and some are fortunate enough to have options where this is concerned), some will decide on other degrees/life paths, etc.

Thank you so much for your answer!

 

[Potofazherbaizan]

I'm doing my UAC preferences right now. Ideally, I would like to do medicine at WSU, but I think I am more likely to get UNSW. Is it safe for me to put WSU 1st and UNSW 2nd? I have heard that UNSW might not consider me for a 1st round offer until WSU rejects me. Is there a possibility that I miss out on any of these offers because of the way I order my selections?

 

[Bilbo_Baggins]

I'm doing my UAC preferences right now. Ideally, I would like to do medicine at WSU, but I think I am more likely to get UNSW. Is it safe for me to put WSU 1st and UNSW 2nd? I have heard that UNSW might not consider me for a 1st round offer until WSU rejects me. Is there a possibility that I miss out on any of these offers because of the way I order my selections?

Ordering only comes into play in the event that you get multiple offers. If you have it included in your course preferences and qualify for an interview with each respective university then you'll get an interview invitation at each. Put WSU first if it's your preference of the two.