Bond Med 2018 Discussion

[CandyCrush]

Would it be possible that people that are seemingly on the "wait list" are actually NOT on any wait list at all but Bond just does not want to declare "unsatisfactory" or "not offered" or whatever wording they choose to use until 7th March?

I don’t think that’s the case! By the looks of things we are back up incase people cancel or if they have a no show for the interviews. I guess they don’t want to deem us unsatisfactory until they know they’ve filled their spots completely. Which is completely understandable. I highly doubt they’d keep us pending for the joy of the ride.

 

[drpkjr]

Can you commence a conversation with me please as I am unable to do?

Hi i was wondering the same, What university and what country. If I may ask how difficult was the program and How hard was it to live away from their family?

 

[Deleted member 32959]

I received a notification in QTAC site as "NOT SATISFIED" under the Interview offer. Thanks for putting me out of misery and saving me $$$ in thousands, I am off to the UK for Medicine and hopefully meet some of you in the future in the workforce. It was destined to happen sometime sooner being on the waitlist and it happened. Thanks to the psychometric testing ousting a candidate with a decent ATAR 99.20. See you and good luck in the future.

 

[Terron Beckham]

Bad luck cnbas
Well atleast you'll save money by going to another country where you'll be able to learn a lot about yourself through new experiences!

Not to add salt to the wound but I received an interview offer with an ATAR 99.15 :/
Just saying this to highlight the lack of transparency brought by this new test - hope they release the test results seeing as we paid $154 for it!
Good luck to you in the future

 

[CandyCrush]

I received a notification in QTAC site as "NOT SATISFIED" under the Interview offer. Thanks for putting me out of misery and saving me $$$ in thousands, I am off to the UK for Medicine and hopefully meet some of you in the future in the workforce. It was destined to happen sometime sooner being on the waitlist and it happened. Thanks to the psychometric testing ousting a candidate with a decent ATAR 99.20. See you and good luck in the future.

Good morning,

Indeed mine has just changed also. Good luck in the UK! I’m sure you’ll do great!

 

[d99]

I totally agree with your statement. As with UNSW, their median was told to be >99.50 for the final offer but >99.00 for interview offer (Y12 school leaver) so maybe the reason I did not make it after the interview as they view ATAR in the final offer along with Interview and UMAT as well. Your statement nails it correctly as you don't need to be a genius to complete medicine as I have seen it through personal experience around my region. Cheers

I received a notification in QTAC site as "NOT SATISFIED" under the Interview offer. Thanks for putting me out of misery and saving me $$$ in thousands, I am off to the UK for Medicine and hopefully meet some of you in the future in the workforce. It was destined to happen sometime sooner being on the waitlist and it happened. Thanks to the psychometric testing ousting a candidate with a decent ATAR 99.20. See you and good luck in the future.

You probably should start to reflect on yourself, rather than continually blame the system. On one hand, you thought your ATAR was the reason you didn't get not a UNSW offer. Now, you think it is the shortcomings of the psychometric test that has prevented you from getting Bond interview despite your 'decent ATAR'. Maybe not getting past the psychometric test stage for you means that the test is actually effective in screening out certain types of personalities. All the best in the UK.

 

[B2]

hope they release the test results seeing as we paid $154 for it!

Bond has opted to not release the results of these tests to candidates.

Thanks to the psychometric testing ousting a candidate with a decent ATAR 99.20

That is an ATAR to be proud off but it does not mean that you "deserve" or are "entitled" to a place in medicine which is what you seem to think.

 

[Tomato]

I am quite curious about how the Bond med students pay their fees. It costs around $380K of tuition fees but you can only get about $120K from FEE-HELP. Liquidating properties or other assets?

 

[Mana]

I am quite curious about how the Bond med students pay their fees. It costs around $380K of tuition fees but you can only get about $120K from FEE-HELP. Liquidating properties or other assets?

It does seem that Bond has an additional test for admission - the means test, which basically selects for those with high socioeconomic status and selects out those with mid to low SES.

If you bought $10 of bitcoin in 2009 and held it until now you would be able to afford your Bond medical education with no issues though.

 

[Deleted member 32959]

You probably should start to reflect on yourself, rather than continually blame the system. On one hand, you thought your ATAR was the reason you didn't get not a UNSW offer. Now, you think it is the shortcomings of the psychometric test that has prevented you from getting Bond interview despite your 'decent ATAR'. Maybe not getting past the psychometric test stage for you means that the test is actually effective in screening out certain types of personalities. All the best in the UK.

Hey, I did not blame the system with UNSW for my ATAR ( where did you get that from, I was talking about my low UMAT scores) or Bond rather reflecting on my shortcomings with this test. I am sorry that you did not or I did not make you understand. btw, your statements are hurting and insinuating. I don't whinge or a crybaby that I did not get past this test. I was disappointed. That's all and understood that for a Paltry 99.20 ATAR and with my personality that you had described I don't deserve or entitled to a place. Hope this makes you happy that I surrendered. Good luck to those who exhibited the personalities needed by this test with the rest of the admission process. Thanks.

 

[Deleted member 32959]

Good morning,

Indeed mine has just changed also. Good luck in the UK! I’m sure you’ll do great!

Good luck in your future endeavours too. Did you get that "Interview Offer" with the status change this morning? It was a pleasure to chat with you. If I am lucky to get a higher UMAT score in August 2018, I might apply for JMP, WSU and UTAS. So we may meet as Medicine buddies in the future.

I am working out the costs of UK option and on a rough higher estimate, it comes to 40% of what I would have incurred in Bond including accommodation. On one hand, it pains to see that I could not get past the Psychometric testing, but on the other a consolation that I did not put my parents into more financial hardship. It's high for my parents with my elder sibling already in the UK - MBBS (Hons) final year and younger in Year 11 now. But they have been saving for my education for a few years now and could meet mine without hassle. It remains to be seen what happens with the younger sibling in 2 years time with my dad's position could be restructured by June 2020. The no Interview offer gives a hope to visit my ailing relative soon overseas as I am Gap year (kind of partial gap) student now.

 

[medtime]

hey guys, graduate entry student here. gpa 6.8
just wondering if you guys think there will be a difference in MMI questions for the standard and non standard entry applicants to account for differences in life experience and maturity? or would they make them all the same?

 

[DrDrLMG!]

Hey everyone, just wondering if bond disregards your atar after two years, and goes purely from Gpa..ie, I graduated in 2016 with an atar of 96. Took a gap year, and starting a science this year. So when I apply for 2019 entry will bond only regard my gpa this year or will they combine it with my atar..if the latter is the case, what kind of Gpa will I need to ensure I get the psychometric test?
Thank you so much and good luck to everyone with interviews!

I believe Bond stop using your ATAR once you’ve completed two years of FTE uni, but it may only be one year. B2 will know for sure. That said, I have vague recollections of it being mentioned early in this thread, so you could look through the first few pages.

 

[A1]

Hey everyone, just wondering if bond disregards your atar after two years, and goes purely from Gpa

It's shown here > Medical Program* entry assessment table

Less than 1 FTE year : ATAR only
1 to <1.5 year : 50/50 ATAR + GPA
1.5+ year : GPA only

 

[Harry Kane]

I received a notification in QTAC site as "NOT SATISFIED" under the Interview offer. Thanks for putting me out of misery and saving me $$$ in thousands, I am off to the UK for Medicine and hopefully meet some of you in the future in the workforce. It was destined to happen sometime sooner being on the waitlist and it happened. Thanks to the psychometric testing ousting a candidate with a decent ATAR 99.20. See you and good luck in the future.

Unlucky mate, apply next year. Medicine in the UK is probably not as flash as you think (bad weather, boring people, the NHS etc.). All in all, you'll find that it'll cost you more in the end as well haha #straya

 

[MDIzzy]

ATAR 99.20. Not sure if it's good or not. I took all the Science and extension maths and English subjects. 15 units in total in NSW. Got Band 6 scores in all. I am a Y12 school leaver.

Yo homie cnbas- your ATAR is far higher than mine brother. I'm going in as a WAM/ATAR (+Rap EP) candidate and mine was a lot lower.

** Back a track, my GPA was higher than Musk's car that could be a key contributor...

 

[Deleted member 32959]

Unlucky mate, apply next year. Medicine in the UK is probably not as flash as you think (bad weather, boring people, the NHS etc.). All in all, you'll find that it'll cost you more in the end as well haha #straya

Thanks, mate. No, applying to Bond is out of my action for next year due to exorbitant cost. Will try out UMAT again in July 2018. I have a sibling finishing Medicine in the UK and we have an abundance of information and my cost will be much lower in comparison and the training /education is not second to Australia as I heard. But I do agree on the weather. On finishing FY1 &2 (if offered), there is a real possibility of getting a placement in Australia as SRMO. I do not want to go into detail as to how and the statistics and record that show how this is impossible !!! I have the best connections in the placement who actually employ IMGs and even British Nationals after FY1 &2. You just need to get the right connections sometimes. Nothing is certain, but anyway I would like to give it a try like my brother who is in final MBBS (Hons). He specifically chose the UK for his liking managed some scholarship, not that he did not get the admission in Australia. He may not come back to Australia as he takes USMLE and set his eyes on the US placement as advised by my cousin in Harvard ( if that) who is doing postgraduation in Interventional Neurology Super genius who won the Gold medal in the Olympiad competitions in Chemistry and Biology.

 

[A1]

Thanks, mate. No, applying to Bond is out of my action for next year due to exorbitant cost.

You seem to be unclear of your own situation. If the above is true why did you not only apply to Bond this year but also rue not getting an interview - is it because you would be able to afford this year but not next year?

 

[chinaski]

I have the best connections in the placement who actually employ IMGs and even British Nationals after FY1 &2. You just need to get the right connections sometimes.

Unless those "connections" are in private business (eg GP training), methinks you are over-estimating what "connections" can do for you when it comes to getting a job in the public sector (particularly as an IMG). Employment practices are transparent and quite clear in the public service; there's not a secret back door and handshake for those in the know.

 

[Deleted member 32959]

Unless those "connections" are in private business (eg GP training), methinks you are over-estimating what "connections" can do for you when it comes to getting a job in the public sector (particularly as an IMG). Employment practices are transparent and quite clear in the public service; there's not a secret back door and handshake for those in the know.

OMG. Why do you think wildly and go extremes...all the public practices are transparent and there is no backdoor entry alluded here...I intended that I could be given the right advise of what is correct and when and where to apply viz. rural/area of need in different states and things like that. I could take up observer positions within the public system for some time and wait for placement after clearing AMC...this happened here for a graduate from Beijing under Area of Need. The issue comes if the IMG wants to stay only in cities of NSW, VIC, WA but some minimal opportunities arose and they have taken it in rural QLD, SA and TAS in the recent past. I will have to take whatever comes along. If I come back to Australia soon after graduation, there may be a long wait for job placement as advised to me now by the IMG placement unit, but they also told me that the chance to get placement is not ZERO unless Australia shuts the door for all IMGs . These doctors, specialists work in the public hospital system along with AMC for WBA and other placement services available for IMGs under Standard Pathway...and for graduate entries after accredited overseas internship through Competent Authority Pathway for Job placement and subsequent registration with MBA. There is a structured pathway and framework for now for IMGs and I will find it with right advice in 5 plus years if that still exists. I am prepared to try and wait until the placement comes along...that's the aim for now. Wish me good luck if you want. Thanks.